Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thom Brown wrote: > On 7 September 2010 22:20, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Thom Brown wrote: > >> On 7 September 2010 20:26, Tom Lane wrote: > >> > Thom Brown writes: > >> >> Sorry, I should have clarified. ?There are boxes containing notes > >> >> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we wen

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-08 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 22:20, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >> On 7 September 2010 20:26, Tom Lane wrote: >> > Thom Brown writes: >> >> Sorry, I should have clarified. ?There are boxes containing notes >> >> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. >> >> ?Ex

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thom Brown wrote: > On 7 September 2010 20:26, Tom Lane wrote: > > Thom Brown writes: > >> Sorry, I should have clarified. ?There are boxes containing notes > >> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. > >> ?Example appears on: > >> http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/d

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 22:01, Tom Lane wrote: > The Caution looks good to me.  I'd still take the Notes down another > notch, but certainly we're getting into personal preference now. Okay, adjusted it a bit more so that should do now. -- Thom Brown Twitter: @darkixion IRC (freenode): dark_ixion R

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > On 7 September 2010 20:26, Tom Lane wrote: >> Hmm, I always think of beige as being mostly brown ... this is more >> mostly yellow.  Personally I'd like this color for blocks, >> and something intermediate between this and gray for s.  The >> current setup seems to use the s

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 20:26, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are boxes containing notes >> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. >>  Example appears on: >> http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/9.0/static/ddl-priv.html >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > On 7 September 2010 20:58, Dave Page wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >>> On 7 September 2010 20:28, Dave Page wrote: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > Sorry, I should have clarified.  The

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 20:58, Dave Page wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >> On 7 September 2010 20:28, Dave Page wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Thom Brown wrote: Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are boxes containing notes which I had originally

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > On 7 September 2010 20:28, Dave Page wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >>> Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are boxes containing notes >>> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. >>

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 20:28, Dave Page wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >> Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are boxes containing notes >> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. >>  Example appears on: >> http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 20:26, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are boxes containing notes >> which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. >>  Example appears on: >> http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/9.0/static/ddl-priv.html >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are boxes containing notes > which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. >  Example appears on: > http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/9.0/static/ddl-priv.html Apologies for not k

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > Sorry, I should have clarified. There are boxes containing notes > which I had originally coloured yellow, but we went for beige instead. > Example appears on: > http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/9.0/static/ddl-priv.html Hmm, I always think of beige as being mostly brown

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > There are boxes containing notes which I had originally coloured > yellow, but we went for beige instead. Example appears on: > http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/9.0/static/ddl-priv.html Oh, *those* notes. Got it. As I recall, Tom felt that the yellow was too much of

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 19:42, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> The notes section still looks really drab on my screen. > > Are you talking about the Release Notes page: > > http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/8.4/static/release.html > > notes for a major release: > > http://pgweb.dark

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > The notes section still looks really drab on my screen. Are you talking about the Release Notes page: http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/8.4/static/release.html notes for a major release: http://pgweb.darkixion.com:8081/docs/8.4/static/release-8-4.html or notes fo

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Thom Brown
On 7 September 2010 18:12, Kevin Grittner wrote: > I just noticed that the text size links in the upper right corner > don't seem to work. I think you're imagining things, Kevin. (in other words, I've fixed it because it wasn't present in the new version of the site) The notes section still look

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Kevin Grittner wrote: >> The only thing I found a little distracting with the current >> layout is that on some pages the horizontal lines for the section >> and subsection are very close together. If the lines for >> subsections were less imposing, it would probably help.

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-06 Thread Thom Brown
On 6 September 2010 15:54, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown  wrote: > >> Anymore feedback/suggestions? Anything not look right? Are we there >> yet? > > The only thing I found a little distracting with the current layout > is that on some pages the horizontal lines for the section and > subsecti

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-06 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Anymore feedback/suggestions? Anything not look right? Are we there > yet? The only thing I found a little distracting with the current layout is that on some pages the horizontal lines for the section and subsection are very close together. If the lines for subsections we

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-06 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 14:45, Thom Brown wrote: > On 1 September 2010 21:46, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:39:54 -0400 2010: >>> On 1 September 2010 21:34, Alvaro Herrera >>> wrote: >>> > Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:22:22 -0

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-06 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 21:46, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:39:54 -0400 2010: >> On 1 September 2010 21:34, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> > Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:22:22 -0400 2010: >> > >> >> I'm coming round to the idea that if w

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:39:54 -0400 2010: > On 1 September 2010 21:34, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:22:22 -0400 2010: > > > >> I'm coming round to the idea that if we wanted such a table of > >> contents, we'd generate it

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 21:34, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:22:22 -0400 2010: > >> I'm coming round to the idea that if we wanted such a table of >> contents, we'd generate it on the page when building the docs rather >> than running some ECMAScript.  I'v

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of mié sep 01 16:22:22 -0400 2010: > I'm coming round to the idea that if we wanted such a table of > contents, we'd generate it on the page when building the docs rather > than running some ECMAScript. I've already got a basic contents thing > showing on my ver

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 22:22, Thom Brown wrote: > On 1 September 2010 18:26, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >>> "Joshua D. Drake" writes: >>> > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >>> >> As an example, do you think that anyone trying t

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 18:26, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> "Joshua D. Drake" writes: >> > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> >> As an example, do you think that anyone trying to read one of these >> >> pages on a cell-phone-sized s

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" writes: > > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >> As an example, do you think that anyone trying to read one of these > >> pages on a cell-phone-sized screen is going to thank you for taking up > >> some of hi

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
"Joshua D. Drake" writes: > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> As an example, do you think that anyone trying to read one of these >> pages on a cell-phone-sized screen is going to thank you for taking up >> some of his screen with this? > Not anymore than all the other stuff o

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 17:16, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:03 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Thom Brown writes: >> > I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in >> > top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page.  It >> > only appears on pages whi

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: > > On 1 September 2010 16:03, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Hmmm ... that's potentially useful, but I really really dislike the way > >> that the button hangs there despite scrolling. It's intrusive and it > >> absolutely screams "wo

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:03 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: > > I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in > > top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page. It > > only appears on pages which have items to navigate to, including the > > main inde

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 16:29, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> On 1 September 2010 16:03, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Hmmm ... that's potentially useful, but I really really dislike the way >>> that the button hangs there despite scrolling.  It's intrusive and it >>> absolutely screams "won't work i

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > On 1 September 2010 16:03, Tom Lane wrote: >> Hmmm ... that's potentially useful, but I really really dislike the way >> that the button hangs there despite scrolling.  It's intrusive and it >> absolutely screams "won't work in all browsers".  Can't it just be a >> button or

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 16:03, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in >> top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page.  It >> only appears on pages which have items to navigate to, including the >> main index. > > Hmmm

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in > top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page. It > only appears on pages which have items to navigate to, including the > main index. Hmmm ... that's potentially useful, but I really really d

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 15:06, Thom Brown wrote: > On 1 September 2010 15:00, Kevin Grittner wrote: >> Thom Brown wrote: >> >>> I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in >>> top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page. >>> It only appears on pages which have

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 15:00, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in >> top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page. >> It only appears on pages which have items to navigate to, >> including the main index. >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > I've added an experimental content navigation menu (appears in > top-right-hand corner) which jumps to sections of the same page. > It only appears on pages which have items to navigate to, > including the main index. I don't feel strongly about this feature one way or ano

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 14:47, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> I should also point out that someone I showed this to said that the >> blue text I've used for function names throughout could make the text >> be mistaken for a link.  Comments? > > Please, please, please, do NOT go there.  Rando

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 09:39, Thom Brown wrote: > On 1 September 2010 09:36, Thom Brown wrote: >> On 31 August 2010 21:59, Kevin Grittner wrote: >>> Thom Brown wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> > I found some sample code the is supposed to work in all browers. > I tested it in Firefox

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > I should also point out that someone I showed this to said that the > blue text I've used for function names throughout could make the text > be mistaken for a link. Comments? Please, please, please, do NOT go there. Randomly coloring different pieces of text is not unobtru

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 1 September 2010 09:36, Thom Brown wrote: > On 31 August 2010 21:59, Kevin Grittner wrote: >> Thom Brown wrote: >>> Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I found some sample code the is supposed to work in all browers. I tested it in Firefox and it worked.  It should work in Opera and IE as

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-09-01 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 21:59, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >> Bruce Momjian wrote: > >>> I found some sample code the is supposed to work in all browers. >>> I tested it in Firefox and it worked.  It should work in Opera >>> and IE as well.  HTML/Javascript file attached. >> >> Thanks Br

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I found some sample code the is supposed to work in all browers. >> I tested it in Firefox and it worked. It should work in Opera >> and IE as well. HTML/Javascript file attached. > > Thanks Bruce. I've implemented your recommended change. :) L

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 21:16, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: >> Thom Brown wrote: >> > On 31 August 2010 18:45, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> > > Thom Brown wrote: >> > >> >> But the benefit of the javascript hack was that we weren't setting a >> > >> >> base font size for everything, we just b

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > > On 31 August 2010 18:45, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Thom Brown wrote: > > >> >> But the benefit of the javascript hack was that we weren't setting a > > >> >> base font size for everything, we just bump up the relative font size > > >> >> for elements w

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thom Brown wrote: > On 31 August 2010 18:45, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Thom Brown wrote: > >> >> But the benefit of the javascript hack was that we weren't setting a > >> >> base font size for everything, we just bump up the relative font size > >> >> for elements which are monospaced by default. >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 18:45, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >> >> But the benefit of the javascript hack was that we weren't setting a >> >> base font size for everything, we just bump up the relative font size >> >> for elements which are monospaced by default. >> >> >> >> There's pros and

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thom Brown wrote: > >> But the benefit of the javascript hack was that we weren't setting a > >> base font size for everything, we just bump up the relative font size > >> for elements which are monospaced by default. > >> > >> There's pros and cons to both approaches. ?I'm not sure which one you >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 18:37, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >> In a way I am.  Users have the ability (although not often exercised) >> to change the default font and size.  I gave the HTML tag a font-size, >> so that anything under it would be based on that.  We use relative >> font sizes i

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thom Brown wrote: > In a way I am. Users have the ability (although not often exercised) > to change the default font and size. I gave the HTML tag a font-size, > so that anything under it would be based on that. We use relative > font sizes in our CSS, which means usually we'd be proportional t

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 17:57, Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" writes: >> On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 12:24 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >>> There's a reason why it was done that way before ... > >> There is no reason to do that. Every browser has the ability to override >> font settings. If the user has acces

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 17:24, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> On 31 August 2010 17:14, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Thom Brown writes: Now the font sizes should be virtually the same in all browsers. >>> >>> That seems pretty unfriendly from an accessibility standpoint. > >> Maybe, but the only

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: Thom Brown writes: > Now the font sizes should be virtually the same in all > browsers. That looked good in Firefox and Konqueror on my kubuntu machine. > Okay, I've added a slightly modified version of that in (was > missing in the new version of the site), r

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Tom Lane
"Joshua D. Drake" writes: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 12:24 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> There's a reason why it was done that way before ... > There is no reason to do that. Every browser has the ability to override > font settings. If the user has accessibility issues, they have the > ability to deal

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 12:24 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > Thom Brown writes: > > > On 31 August 2010 17:14, Tom Lane wrote: > > >> Thom Brown writes: > > >>> Now the font sizes should be virtually the same in all browsers. > > >> > > >> That seems pretty unfriendly from an

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 12:24 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: > > On 31 August 2010 17:14, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Thom Brown writes: > >>> Now the font sizes should be virtually the same in all browsers. > >> > >> That seems pretty unfriendly from an accessibility standpoint. > > > May

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 August 2010 20:27, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> Okay, I've made a couple other changes, but if it's not working >> now, I don't think it's supported.  This page suggests that >> box-shadow isn't yet supported by KHTML: >> http://www.legendscrolls.co.uk/webstandards/khtml >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > Well that was a pain. Didn't realise there was a special hacky CSS > file to fix fonts for gecko and webkit browsers. We use javascript to > add it in on the current documentation, which is a nasty hack (try > disabling javascript and look at our docs in Firefox, Chrome or >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Thom Brown
On 31 August 2010 17:14, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> Well that was a pain.  Didn't realise there was a special hacky CSS >> file to fix fonts for gecko and webkit browsers.  We use javascript to >> add it in on the current documentation, which is a nasty hack (try >> disabling javascr

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-31 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > On 31 August 2010 17:14, Tom Lane wrote: >> Thom Brown writes: >>> Now the font sizes should be virtually the same in all browsers. >> >> That seems pretty unfriendly from an accessibility standpoint. > Maybe, but the only alternative is to copy the current site's javascri

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-30 Thread Thom Brown
On 30 August 2010 18:09, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of dom ago 29 14:56:47 -0400 2010: > >> Okay, it appears there's also a KHTML engine setting for pre-CSS3 >> support.  I've added that in now for rounded corners and shadows. Any >> different? > > You know you can

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-30 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Thom Brown's message of dom ago 29 14:56:47 -0400 2010: > Okay, it appears there's also a KHTML engine setting for pre-CSS3 > support. I've added that in now for rounded corners and shadows. Any > different? You know you can try these things in http://browsershots.org, right? --

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Okay, I've made a couple other changes, but if it's not working > now, I don't think it's supported. This page suggests that > box-shadow isn't yet supported by KHTML: > http://www.legendscrolls.co.uk/webstandards/khtml No shadows in Konqueror. > I've just tested it in O

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 August 2010 19:39, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> And Kevin, I made the shadows a bit lighter in this version and >> used the beige notes box. > > For my taste, that's perfect.  (Now there's the trivial matter of > making everyone else happy.  ;-) ) > > The rounded corners a

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > And Kevin, I made the shadows a bit lighter in this version and > used the beige notes box. For my taste, that's perfect. (Now there's the trivial matter of making everyone else happy. ;-) ) The rounded corners and shadows aren't showing up in Konqueror, but everything

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Kevin Grittner wrote: >> The rounded corners and shadows aren't showing up in Konqueror > Okay, it appears there's also a KHTML engine setting for pre-CSS3 > support. I've added that in now for rounded corners and shadows. > Any different? Konqueror now shows rounded co

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 August 2010 20:02, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >> Kevin Grittner wrote: > >>> The rounded corners and shadows aren't showing up in Konqueror > >> Okay, it appears there's also a KHTML engine setting for pre-CSS3 >> support.  I've added that in now for rounded corners and shad

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 August 2010 17:46, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> The only change is the addition of very light shadowing (for Dave >> and Kevin) > > Sorry for sounding picky, but can the shadowing be even lighter?  It > seems a tad heavy next to the light gray in the boxes. Okay, I've sto

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Tom Lane
"Kevin Grittner" writes: > Thom Brown wrote: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4937010683/sizes/o/ > For me, that's the easiest to read so far. With a lot of the other > distractions cleaned up, I wonder if it's worth throwing another > version up with subtle shadows on the boxes whic

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Kevin Grittner
Tom Lane wrote: > The yellow "note" boxes still strike me as too eye-grabbing for > their purpose. Otherwise this version seems nice. How about a color which still differentiates these without being quite so bold -- like Beige (#F5F5DC)? For an example, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 August 2010 17:28, Tom Lane wrote: > "Kevin Grittner" writes: >> Thom Brown wrote: >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4937010683/sizes/o/ > >> For me, that's the easiest to read so far.  With a lot of the other >> distractions cleaned up, I wonder if it's worth throwing another >>

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > The only change is the addition of very light shadowing (for Dave > and Kevin) Sorry for sounding picky, but can the shadowing be even lighter? It seems a tad heavy next to the light gray in the boxes. -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-docs mailing list (pgsql-docs@postgresql.o

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Joe Conway
On 08/29/2010 03:56 AM, Thom Brown wrote: > Okay, as per Robert's suggestion, I've changed all > example/definition/synopsis boxes to grey, and followed Dave's > suggestion of restoring borders and making the default text colour > black for all boxed content. Bear in mind the rubbish screenshot ap

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Okay, as per Robert's suggestion, I've changed all > example/definition/synopsis boxes to grey, and followed Dave's > suggestion of restoring borders and making the default text colour > black for all boxed content. Bear in mind the rubbish screenshot > app I'm using heavily

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > blue boxes - definitions > grey boxes - examples, output etc > red boxes - warnings, cautions > yellow boxes - notes I think yellow notes and red warnings are good, but I wonder if definitions should get the same markup as examples, output, etc

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Dave Page
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > > > Are the boxes really that distracting?  How about if I remove the > > border and just have a light background?  The problem with relying on > > font difference is that it's not the same on every platform, hence why > > this all started. > >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-29 Thread Thom Brown
On 29 August 2010 08:39, Dave Page wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >> >> > Are the boxes really that distracting?  How about if I remove the >> > border and just have a light background?  The problem with relying on >> > font difference is that it's not the same on eve

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-28 Thread Thom Brown
On 28 August 2010 20:53, Thom Brown wrote: > On 27 August 2010 20:23, Erik Rijkers wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4931878975/sizes/o/ >> >> FWIW, I like the changes to the tables, but I do dislike both boxes *and* >> background-coloring of >> both and (=code examples).  T

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-28 Thread Thom Brown
On 27 August 2010 20:23, Erik Rijkers wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4931878975/sizes/o/ > > FWIW, I like the changes to the tables, but I do dislike both boxes *and* > background-coloring of > both and (=code examples).  To my eyes the changed font > is enough for both >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Erik Rijkers
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4931878975/sizes/o/ FWIW, I like the changes to the tables, but I do dislike both boxes *and* background-coloring of both and (=code examples). To my eyes the changed font is enough for both and . OTOH, I mainly use the .pdf version of the documen

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 18:04 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > Something I've noticed is an inconsistency in the SGML markup around > functions listed in tables. Sometimes the entire function signature > is considered to be the function, and other times it's just the > function name, with its parameters

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Thom Brown
On 27 August 2010 17:10, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> The reason I removed the corners is that they can't be applied to >> a warning or caution box using their current markup (as the >> background pushes beyond the rounded corner), and when they appear >> near a normal rounded-c

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Okay, got rid of all the shadows, rounded corners etc and made > some other changes: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4932396780/sizes/o/ I generally liked the rounded corners. The tables near the front are probably better off without them, but I would rather see

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 10:46 -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > > > Okay, got rid of all the shadows, rounded corners etc and made > > some other changes: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4932396780/sizes/o/ > > I generally liked the rounded corners. As did I. > T

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > The reason I removed the corners is that they can't be applied to > a warning or caution box using their current markup (as the > background pushes beyond the rounded corner), and when they appear > near a normal rounded-corner box, it might look a bit inconsistent > (same bu

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Thom Brown
On 27 August 2010 16:46, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: > >> Okay, got rid of all the shadows, rounded corners etc and made >> some other changes: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4932396780/sizes/o/ > > I generally liked the rounded corners.  The tables near the front > are

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-27 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 August 2010 18:44, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 18:27 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > >> I agree with this too and I'll work on making sure things look more >> consistent.  I'll just have to think about how to make the differences >> clear without random splashes of colour on th

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 18:27 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > I agree with this too and I'll work on making sure things look more > consistent. I'll just have to think about how to make the differences > clear without random splashes of colour on the page. blues and greys are going to be easier on the

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thom Brown wrote: > > Thom - there you go, now it's public, there's no backing down now :P > > > > Looks like the webkit rendering engine can't deal with rounded corners > neatly where the borders are different widths so got rid of the > left-hand border-width. > > Did a little bit more today: >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 August 2010 18:23, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >> Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >>> It is great for it to be aesthetically pleasing but if we have >>> those minor inconsistencies I think it would be distracting from >>> the information itself. >> >> Agreed, and it's sort of experi

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Kevin Grittner
Thom Brown wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> It is great for it to be aesthetically pleasing but if we have >> those minor inconsistencies I think it would be distracting from >> the information itself. > > Agreed, and it's sort of experimental at the moment. If it > doesn't help present inf

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 August 2010 18:00, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 17:28 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > >> >> Looks like the webkit rendering engine can't deal with rounded corners >> neatly where the borders are different widths so got rid of the >> left-hand border-width. > > did you use --webk

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 August 2010 18:03, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:03 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > >> > Yeah, quite impressive. Would love to know how Thom did that. And if I >> > can borrow it for the french translation of the manual :) >> >> Thanks, although I'm worried it's a bit too dist

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:03 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > > Yeah, quite impressive. Would love to know how Thom did that. And if I > > can borrow it for the french translation of the manual :) > > Thanks, although I'm worried it's a bit too distracting. I got a bit > carried away as originally it w

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 17:28 +0100, Thom Brown wrote: > > Looks like the webkit rendering engine can't deal with rounded corners > neatly where the borders are different widths so got rid of the > left-hand border-width. did you use --webkit-border-radius > > Did a little bit more today: > htt

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 August 2010 13:11, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:03, Thom Brown wrote: >> On 26 August 2010 06:52, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: >>> Le 26/08/2010 01:29, Joshua D. Drake a écrit : On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 17:51 -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Thom Brown wrote: >

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:03, Thom Brown wrote: > On 26 August 2010 06:52, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: >> Le 26/08/2010 01:29, Joshua D. Drake a écrit : >>> On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 17:51 -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote: Thom Brown wrote: > And another prototype: > http://www.flickr.com

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] Example indenting

2010-08-26 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 August 2010 06:52, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: > Le 26/08/2010 01:29, Joshua D. Drake a écrit : >> On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 17:51 -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote: >>> Thom Brown wrote: >>> And another prototype: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_ixion/4927669444/sizes/o/ >>> >>> Wow!  That

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