Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: If you're really intent on making that happen, you can have your password checker plugin reject crypted passwords; we

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: You've twice asserted it's a reduction without providing any arguments to back that up. You quoted two good arguments why it's insecure in your original message, neither of which your

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: I see one, and I proposed masking passwords in any relevant queries before they were written to the stats or logs

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Eric B. Ridge e...@tcdi.com wrote: On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Dave Page wrote: A useful feature found in other DBMSs such as MS SQL Server that has been requested on these lists a few times, is the ability for a client application to report its name

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
the NT domain/active directory authentication methods, even Microsoft finally gave in and added policy management for their SQL Server accounts with SQL 2k5. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
their password - you can grab it the next time he logs in. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
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Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote: I said up front this was a box-ticking exercise for these folks, Can they check the box if the provided clients include password strength checking?  I'm just wondering

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote: No. Any checks at the client are worthless, as they can be bypassed by 10 minutes worth of simple coding in any of a dozen or more languages. Well, sure, but we're talking

[HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
? (Yes, I know I should technically discuss then code, but I was going to do this as a pet project to dabble in the server code which I don't do nearly often enough and figured I'd just send a WIP :-p ). -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com appname-v1.diff Description: Binary

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote: Dave Page wrote: The attached patch is a first quick cut of the basic functionality to do this. Currently, it makes the following changes: Couple of thoughts, - should we use argv[0] automatically in libpq

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
of being able to set/show a GUC at any time, but you raise a good point. I'll need to venture into previously unknown territory (for me at least :-p) to figure out how best to do that, and if possible keep the GUC... -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
through the logger or into per-backend shared memory, which would mean special-casing this particular variable for which doing those things is the primary use case. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: - Is my approach reasonable? - What interface should I include in libpq? I thought the plan was to have libpq look at an environment variable, I wasn't aware we had a plan :-) compare

[HACKERS] Wire protocol docs

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
' in the docs - does that need fixing, or do my searching skills need improving? *starts reading source code* :-) -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http

Re: [HACKERS] Wire protocol docs

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
, which appears to be incorrect. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Wire protocol docs

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: Right. My complaint though, is that the docs imply that the info on how those values get set is in the docs somewhere, which appears to be incorrect. The libpq documentation does cover

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: - Is my approach reasonable? I thought the plan was to have libpq look

Re: [HACKERS] Client application name

2009-10-13 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jaime Casanova jcasa...@systemguards.com.ec wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote: Oh, and apologies to Jaime who I just noticed had volunteered to work on this :-( never mind... i get blocked for the ugliness of the libpq

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-10-01 Thread Dave Page
here's the patch. I don't think there is documentation required; correct me if I am wrong. How will people know how to use it, or that it's even there without at least a note in the docs somewhere? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list

Re: [HACKERS] pg_hba.conf: samehost and samenet [REVIEW]

2009-09-29 Thread Dave Page
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Stef Walter stef-l...@memberwebs.com wrote:  * Win32 using win_wsa2.dll I assume you mean ws2_32.dll? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [HACKERS] Rejecting weak passwords

2009-09-28 Thread Dave Page
the passwords if you use the GUI to change them, or when add a user. It doesn't make any attempt to parse the SQL if you enter it yourself in the query tool though (nor is it going to). -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] Docs build error in alpha1

2009-09-25 Thread Dave Page
intended to be going on). Any hints? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Docs build error in alpha1

2009-09-25 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 11:31 +0100, Dave Page wrote: I'm hacking up our build framework to allow us to build installers for the upcoming alpha2 release. When I install the Linux port, I'm seeing the following failure

Re: [HACKERS] Docs build error in alpha1

2009-09-25 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 16:47 +0100, Dave Page wrote: I think you have an old version of docbook-xsl. It's the latest available for CentOS 4.6: [buildf...@bf-linux ~]$ rpm -q -a |grep docbook docbook-utils-0.6.14-4

Re: [HACKERS] [Pgbuildfarm-members] Snow Leopard bison/flex build problem

2009-09-07 Thread Dave Page
what happens. FYI, I've been building from source on Snow Leopard without any problems. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref

Re: [HACKERS] [Pgbuildfarm-members] Snow Leopard bison/flex build problem

2009-09-07 Thread Dave Page
On 9/7/09, Robert Creager rob...@logicalchaos.org wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Dave Page wrote: FYI, I've been building from source on Snow Leopard without any problems. If your building from the official tarball, bison/flex are not used. I'm building from CVS, where bison/flex

Re: [HACKERS] community decision-making 8.5

2009-09-02 Thread Dave Page
if -hackers (or another group) is deadlocked over an issue. For example, the whole 'change the name' debate. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] could not reattach to shared memory on Windows

2009-08-10 Thread Dave Page
implementation - the one that emulates sysv shmem. The patch will need to be changed around for that, and I haven't looked at that. It may be worthwhile to do that, but it's a separate patch, so let's get it out in 8.3 and 8.4 first. Has anyone reported the problem on 8.2? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] could not reattach to shared memory on Windows

2009-08-10 Thread Dave Page
level - no more Mingw/msys builds to maintain :-) Alas, it's probably not practical to drop it without inconveniencing a great many Windows users. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] could not reattach to shared memory on Windows

2009-08-10 Thread Dave Page
. I don't think we should deprecate 8.2 on Windows unless we really can't backport this fix reasonably. Agreed. There are too many users, and it wouldn't be fair to them. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: More portable way to support 64bit platforms

2009-07-25 Thread Dave Page
, -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Multicore builds on MSVC

2009-07-24 Thread Dave Page
the potential speedup on 8.3 8.4. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: More portable way to support 64bit platforms

2009-07-24 Thread Dave Page
of the Datum type, which ought to be at the core of a change like this. Do you need access to a Win64 box?  I can provide you access to a Win64 system, which Dave Page and Magnus already have access to, if it would be useful.. I haven't got round to installing a build env on there yet btw

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: More portable way to support 64bit platforms

2009-07-24 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Stephen Frostsfr...@snowman.net wrote: Dave, * Dave Page (dp...@pgadmin.org) wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Stephen Frostsfr...@snowman.net wrote: Do you need access to a Win64 box?  I can provide you access to a Win64 system, which Dave Page

Re: [HACKERS] Upgrading our minimum required flex version for 8.5

2009-07-23 Thread Dave Page
is what we use for all our Linux build servers. This is getting quite tiresome :-( -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Upgrading our minimum required flex version for 8.5

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Page
in any of my bf animals, or build machines :-( -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Upgrading our minimum required flex version for 8.5

2009-07-22 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: It doesn't work in any of my bf animals, or build machines :-( ?? narwhal seems to have gone green. Narwhal is mingw/msys. The misbehaving flex is the one provided by Andrew for use with VC

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] could not reattach to shared memory on Windows

2009-07-14 Thread Dave Page
?  If somebody is able to build patched Win32 packages I could point a couple of guys in the spanish list to them. I built a version which a guy is currently testing. He could reproduce the bug easily, but last i heard, the patch was looking good. Don't have the details here tho. -- Dave Page

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Launching commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-10 Thread Dave Page
administration skills. Indeed, you have knowledge of many passwords that are hidden from the foolish. I humbly beseech you for a copy of the aforementioned cert on coridan... Is that enough?  I can go on... :-) Hey, that's really very good. Feel free to continue though, it's quite amusing :-) -- Dave

Re: [HACKERS] modules missing from Application Stack Wizard?

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Page
. For Windows, the PostGIS package comes from the PostGIS project, so we're waiting on them (I think they're just about to go GA). For Slony, and PostGIS on Linux/Mac, the packages are currently in QA. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Launching commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Page
to mention: Please set up an SSL server certificate around the login page. Who will provide and pay for it? We have a wildcard cert for the domain. I'm going on vacation at the weekend, and have to wrap up a bunch of stuff at work tomorrow, but if you talk nicely to Stefan... -- Dave Page

Re: [HACKERS] Maintenance Policy?

2009-07-07 Thread Dave Page
to support it and he'd have to do it regardless of project policy. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] First CommitFest: July 15th

2009-07-02 Thread Dave Page
services. As far as I'm aware, there's been no code review yet either, which would probably be a good idea. Which reminds me - that pentabarf installation is getting dangerously close to being shut down... -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] First CommitFest: July 15th

2009-07-02 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 2, 2009, at 3:41 AM, Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote: Robert, I have not reviewed your software.  Do I need a login or something? It's

Re: [HACKERS] First CommitFest: July 15th

2009-07-02 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Joshua Tolleyeggyk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 08:41:27AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: As far as I'm aware, there's been no code review yet either, which would probably be a good idea. I don't have loads of time in the coming days, but IIRC I've

Re: [HACKERS] First CommitFest: July 15th

2009-07-02 Thread Dave Page
.  Unfortunately, it's been a while said I did it, but it was mostly a matter of installing the right set of ports, mostly Perl packages like Template and Date::Calc.  I will try to write something up. Thanks. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] Extensions User Design

2009-06-25 Thread Dave Page
useless on Windows unless you're compiling your own code using Mingw/msys, which will be a miniscule percentage of users. Our installers for 8.3 and above are all built using VC++. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Extensions User Design

2009-06-25 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Dimitri Fontainedfonta...@hi-media.com wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: PGXS is essentially useless on Windows unless you're compiling your own code using Mingw/msys, which will be a miniscule percentage of users. Our installers for 8.3 and above

Re: [HACKERS] Extensions User Design

2009-06-25 Thread Dave Page
On 6/25/09, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Dave Page wrote: Is it possible to design this part of the extension system with only PGXS in mind and later adapt the windows toolsuite? Anything is possible :-). Better to ask someone with more perl

Re: [HACKERS] machine-readable explain output

2009-06-14 Thread Dave Page
. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] machine-readable explain output

2009-06-14 Thread Dave Page
On 6/14/09, Pavel Stehule pavel.steh...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/14 Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org: On 6/13/09, Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de wrote: --On 13. Juni 2009 15:01:43 -0400 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the result type of an EXPLAIN (format xml) should be type

Re: [HACKERS] cannot update to the latest CVS sources

2009-06-12 Thread Dave Page
in /projects/cvsroot/pgsql/src/backend/commands cvs update: [08:35:07] waiting for anoncvs's lock in /projects/cvsroot/pgsql/src/backend/commands The cvs's lock remains held? Why? Please try now. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list

Re: [HACKERS] It's June 1; do you know where your release is?

2009-06-05 Thread Dave Page
.lib, causing the glob to match more than 1 file. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] It's June 1; do you know where your release is?

2009-06-05 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote: OK. try with this please:       my @perl_libs = grep { /perl\d+.lib$/ }           glob($solution-{options}-{perl} . '\lib\CORE\perl*.lib'); That looks good. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http

Re: [HACKERS] It's June 1; do you know where your release is?

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Page
to be fixed, but sufficient unto the day ... Yeah - I chatted briefly with Magnus about that a while back. I added a quick hack to Mkvcbuild.pm to allow it to use either 5.10 or 5.8, but didn't even think about the msys build. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent

Re: [HACKERS] Managing multiple branches in git

2009-06-03 Thread Dave Page
be a showstopper more generally. It's not a showstopper for me. Can't speak for Magnus, Andrew or anyone else working on Windows though. I imagine those two are the most likely to have issues if they're back-patching - and that should just be a matter of disk space. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK

Re: [HACKERS] Managing multiple branches in git

2009-06-03 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote: Well, it sounds about perfect for my use case too (which is approximately the same as Tom's

Re: [HACKERS] Managing multiple branches in git

2009-06-03 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote: It's a simple perl script that uses symlinks: http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=contrib/workdir/git-new-workdir Err, shell script even. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via

Re: [HACKERS] It's June 1; do you know where your release is?

2009-06-03 Thread Dave Page
://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2009-05/msg00198.php -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Managing multiple branches in git

2009-06-02 Thread Dave Page
you need? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] generic options for explain

2009-05-26 Thread Dave Page
is in) because it clutters the output. A machine readable format would seem to the idea way to include all data we may need, without making human-readable output an unreadable mess. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] generic options for explain

2009-05-26 Thread Dave Page
. I was thinking something similar, but from the pgAdmin perspective. We already use libxml2, but JSON would introduce another dependency for us. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes

Re: [HACKERS] generic options for explain

2009-05-24 Thread Dave Page
produce a library of XSLT stylesheets to format the output in different ways without cluttering the server with extra code. The benefits to applications that want to read the output are also pretty obvious. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] any idea why http://www.postgresql.org/community/survey.61 reverts to old values after a while ?

2009-05-05 Thread Dave Page
that. But looking back after an hour, it was Londiste 9 again Are you perhaps missing a COMMIT; somewhere ? ;) No - you're looking at one of the static mirror sites. They'll catch up with the master site periodically. http://wwwmaster.postgresql.org/community/survey.61 is the master. -- Dave Page

Re: [HACKERS] could not reattach to shared memory captured in buildfarm

2009-05-02 Thread Dave Page
of the VM itself, though a couple of minor tweaks were made to the VMware configuration - but they were clock-related. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http

Re: [HACKERS] windows shared memory error

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Page
. At the risk of sounding predictable, +1. Maybe try 5 times, repeating at 1, 2, 4 8 seconds? Any longer seems like it will be a genuine failure (so does 8 seconds in fact, but I don't suppose it'll hurt to try). -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] windows shared memory error

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Page
aware of. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] windows shared memory error

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Heikki Linnakangas heikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote: Dave Page wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote: It strikes me that we really need to try reconnecting to the shared memory here several times, and maybe

Re: [HACKERS] missing auto_explain contrib in 8.4beta1

2009-04-20 Thread Dave Page
, is that intentional? It shouldn't be - I remember adding it. iirc, there's no SQL script for that one though, so no checkbox to select. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [HACKERS] One click installer and pgInstaller collide

2009-04-10 Thread Dave Page
that it was caused by the small step from 8.3.5 to 8.3.7 and the problem would have occurred with an upgrade using the same version (I did not test to find out). Both installers upgraded that file for 8.3.6, hence the difference seen between 8.3.5 and 8.3.7. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http

Re: [HACKERS] Windows installation service

2009-04-10 Thread Dave Page
in memory and allow it to control the program. Which is what does happen. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Windows installation service

2009-04-10 Thread Dave Page
doesn't work on your systems? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] plpgsql debugger (pldbg) absent from 8.4?

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Page
the docs, the SQL script and all the right libraries. What are you missing? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] plpgsql debugger (pldbg) absent from 8.4?

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Kevin Field kevinjamesfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 8, 10:32 am, dp...@pgadmin.org (Dave Page) wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Kevin Field kevinjamesfi...@gmail.com wrote: I'll see if I can get an updated build pushed out sometime today. I finally

Re: [HACKERS] plpgsql debugger (pldbg) absent from 8.4?

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Kevin Field kevinjamesfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 8, 11:26 am, dp...@pgadmin.org (Dave Page) wrote: Did you add shared_preload_libraries = '$libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll' to postgresql.conf and restart the server per the README? Oh my goodness

Re: [HACKERS] Closing some 8.4 open items

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Page
.  Zdenek, Jignesh? You're probably correct about Linux and FreeBSD.  I don't know if OSX + HFS supports fadvise.  If so, it could only help; readahead on HFS right now is nonexistant. Presumably fadvise is useless on Windows.  Anyone know? It is. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http

Re: [HACKERS] Closing some 8.4 open items

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Heikki Linnakangas heikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote: Dave Page wrote: On Wednesday, April 8, 2009, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: Presumably fadvise is useless on Windows.  Anyone know? It is. cygwin supports POSIX_FADV_SEQUENTIAL

Re: [HACKERS] EXPLAIN WITH

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Page
such programs are going to need some work for 8.4 already. As someone who has written more than one such program, I say go for it, looks like a good solution. Argh! Some of us have already made those changes and spent quite some time testing them for 8.4 :-( -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK

Re: [HACKERS] EXPLAIN WITH

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Page
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org wrote: Argh! Some of us have already made those changes and spent quite some time testing them for 8.4 :-( I feel your pain, but OTOH, if it's not possible

[HACKERS] Update PL interpreters for 8.4

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Page
The MSVC++ build system is a little lacking in it's ability to build against different versions of Perl and TCL. The attached patch doesn't fix that (unfortunately), but does update the hard-coded library names so we can use Perl 5.10 and TCL 8.5 with PG 8.4. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http

Re: [HACKERS] 8.4 open items list

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Heikki Linnakangas heikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote: As Dave Page pointed out, other people have already started designing tools based on CVS HEAD. Now is the time to decide, before the PostgreSQL beta is out. I understand the pain inflicted on tools

Re: [HACKERS] 8.4 open items list

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Page
for a new version and beta test tools in the same timeframe that PostgreSQL has for beta. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref

Re: [HACKERS] 8.4 open items list

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org writes: In this case, createdb - however, this particular case is of very minor impact to us. My gripe is more on the general issue of being potentially forced to add support for a new version

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New shapshot RPMs (Mar 27, 2009) are ready for testing

2009-03-30 Thread Dave Page
at http://www.postgresql.org/download/snapshots -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New shapshot RPMs (Mar 27, 2009) are ready for testing

2009-03-30 Thread Dave Page
up along the way somehow. Sorry 'bout that. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] 8.4 open items list

2009-03-28 Thread Dave Page
is released to ensure that tools and interfaces are definitely ready in time - for example, pgAdmin is already in it's second beta. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription

Re: [HACKERS] contrib function naming, and upgrade issues

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Page
pg_dump to not output the definitions of any objects that   belong to a package, but instead to output an INSTALL PACKAGE foo   VERSION n SCHEMA x; I think using PACKAGE is a bad idea as it'll confuse people used to Oracle. MODULE perhaps? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http

Re: [HACKERS] Path separator

2009-03-18 Thread Dave Page
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Re: [HACKERS] plpgsql debugger (pldbg) absent from 8.4?

2009-03-13 Thread Dave Page
handy. Temporary bug that's since been resolved. Sorry 'bout that. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] plpgsql debugger (pldbg) absent from 8.4?

2009-03-13 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Kev kevinjamesfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 13, 9:30 am, dp...@pgadmin.org (Dave Page) wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Kev kevinjamesfi...@gmail.com wrote: On the 2009-01-01 win32 release, I noticed I could no longer debug, Temporary bug that's since

Re: [HACKERS] Prepping to break every past release...

2009-03-10 Thread Dave Page
that newsysviews wouldn't be useful for other classes of user. Perhaps pgsql-general would be a better place to poll. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http

Re: [HACKERS] status of remaining patches

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Page
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: The original patch was submitted by Koichi Suzuki - quite a few other people have looked at it and provided comments.  Simon Riggs was assigned as the original reviewer, but for some reason Dave Page removed his name

Re: [HACKERS] Prepping to break every past release...

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Page
on new features than uglifying the code in far nastier ways than the current state of the catalogs? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Prepping to break every past release...

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Page
with a different catalog schema. Besides - what percentage of users ever go anywhere near the catalogs? I'd guess a fraction of a percent of users, and maybe 1 - 5% of developers. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Prepping to break every past release...

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Page
on uses these catalogs will lead to better and more useful tools as well. Then psql and pgAdmin aren't doing their jobs properly. Tell us what you need. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] Prepping to break every past release...

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Dave Page dp...@pgadmin.org: Don't those folks have to tweak their code with each new release anyway? Because those tables are constantly changing?  I know we hit problems with the way triggers

Re: [HACKERS] RE: [HACKERS] Kerberos V5 required for PostgreSQL installation on Windows

2009-02-27 Thread Dave Page
obviously has the import libraries for Kerberos, so where are the DLLs? -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] RE: [HACKERS] Kerberos V5 required for PostgreSQL installation on Windows

2009-02-27 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: Dave Page wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Zeugswetter Andreas OSB sIT andreas.zeugswet...@s-itsolutions.at wrote: We should delayload this dll since it is only needed for specific configuration. No need

Re: 8.4 release planning (was Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Automatic view update rules)

2009-02-26 Thread Dave Page
it yet (unless Heikki wants to look at the other patches). I agree that this patch alone should not delay the release further though. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

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