Re: [HACKERS] [PERFORM] In progress INSERT wrecks plans on table

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
the original problem. Has this patch had performance testing? Because of the list crossover I don't have any information on that. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription

Re: [HACKERS] Improving avg performance for numeric

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
. Searching email for patches is, at best, inexact. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Improving avg performance for numeric

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
just because I didn't see his patch. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] preserving forensic information when we freeze

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
a bajillion hidden columns, and for a bonus we'd save substantially on catalog bloat. Where are we on this patch? Should I mark it Returned and you'll work on it for September? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] patch submission: truncate trailing nulls from heap rows to reduce the size of the null bitmap [Review]

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
columns, where column #390 was null and gets updated to a not null value I don't *think* that Jamie's performance tests have really addressed the above cases. However, do people agree that if performance on the patch passes for all of A, B and C, then it's OK to apply? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] Redesigning checkpoint_segments

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
actually preallocate fewer segments than the old formula. Since I haven't seen a reply to Peter's comments from Heikki, I'm marking this patch returned with feedback. I know, it's a very busy CF, and I'm sure that you just couldn't get back to this one. We'll address it in September? -- Josh

Re: [HACKERS] Add visibility map information to pg_freespace.

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
these things in the next couple days? Otherwise, I would like to mark this returned with feedback, and you can submit an updated patch to the next CommitFest. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] pgbench --throttle (submission 7 - with lag measurement)

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
an update on this in 10 days. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add transforms feature

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Changing recovery.conf parameters into GUCs

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
presented a nice spec some time ago (Robert and I liked it) which would break backward compatibility but allow to begin with a fresh infrastructure. As folks know, I favor Smith's approach. However, as far as I can find, GSmith never posted a patch for his version. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL

Re: [Review] Re: [HACKERS] minor patch submission: CREATE CAST ... AS EXPLICIT

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
features nor spec compliance. Where are we with this patch? Fabien, are you going to submit an updated version which addresses the objections, or should I mark it Returned With Feedback? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Reduce maximum error in tuples estimation after vacuum.

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
be different form deciding to separate this estimation function from that for analyze. Kyotaro, do you think you'll be revising this patch in the next 2 days, or should I bounce it, and you can resubmit it for the next commitfest? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com

Re: [HACKERS] Bugfix and new feature for PGXS

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
of days? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Bugfix and new feature for PGXS

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
days, or does it bounce? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Performance Improvement by reducing WAL for Update Operation

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
documentation for the GUC variable 'wal_update_compression_ratio'? Yes. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] [9.4 CF] Free VMs for Reviewers Testers

2013-07-08 Thread Josh Berkus
and start reviewing! Since these are cloud servers, they won't work well for performance testing. However, they will be excellent for testing replication. If you need one of these, please contact me to allocate a VM for you. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-06 Thread Josh Berkus
(idea is workable, but the given implementation is not). Exactly. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Changing recovery.conf parameters into GUCs

2013-07-05 Thread Josh Berkus
/4ee91248.8010...@2ndquadrant.com So, this seems to still be stalled. Is there a way forward on this which won't cause us to wait *another* version before we have working replication GUCs? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add transforms feature

2013-07-05 Thread Josh Berkus
On 07/05/2013 09:08 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On 7/3/13 7:15 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: I'm not comfortable with having all of the transform mappings in the main contrib/ directory though. Can we add a subdirectory called transforms containing all of these? I don't see any value

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-05 Thread Josh Berkus
instructions. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Millisecond-precision connect_timeout for libpq

2013-07-05 Thread Josh Berkus
instead of connecting directly to Postgres. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Review: query result history in psql

2013-07-05 Thread Josh Berkus
, in the future tie in to being able to dispatch asyncronous queries from psql. If we have a query result cache, it's one short step to allowing that result cache to be populated asyncrhonously. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
On 07/03/2013 07:43 AM, Robert Haas wrote: Let's have a new schedule called minute-check with the objective to run the common tests in 60 secs. Note that we're below 60s even with assert and CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS, at least on my laptop. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
the CF started and I found myself doing the patch sweep the day before the CF, which didn't leave time for an email response. This is one of those areas where better tooling could help a lot. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
so that they can tell their bosses that they *have* to spend time on patch review. Otherwise, the review doesn't happen. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
ever end up doing a list again. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [v9.4] row level security -- needs a reviewer

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
Hackers, Please, oh please, won't someone review this? This patch has been 3 years in the making, so I suspect that it will NOT be a fast review. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes

Re: [HACKERS] request a new feature in fuzzystrmatch

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
. Can someone with more knowledge of the extension facility comment on that? I believe that's correct. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Remove useless USE_PGXS support in contrib

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Cedric, etc.: Where are we on this patch? Seems like discussion died out. Should it be bounced? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
time. That's a good point. I hadn't considered (or realized the extent of) the occasional and specific nature of Michael's involvement with the project these days. My apologies, then, Michael. Is there anyone else on the committer list with similar circumstances? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] request a new feature in fuzzystrmatch

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
Liming, Given that this patch will not be ready for commit this week, but has gotten a review, I am marking it as Returned with Feedback. Please keep working on it, and as soon as you have a new version of the patch, add it to the September commitfest. Thanks! -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add transforms feature

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
containing all of these? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] request a new feature in fuzzystrmatch

2013-07-03 Thread Josh Berkus
On 07/03/2013 04:05 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Josh Berkus escribió: Liming, Given that this patch will not be ready for commit this week, but has gotten a review, I am marking it as Returned with Feedback. Please keep working on it, and as soon as you have a new version of the patch, add

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-07-02 Thread Josh Berkus
into a rut of letting a handful of people do 90% of the reviewing, resulting in CFs which last forever and some very frustrated major contributors. That part shouldn't be necessary again for some time, hopefully. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Support for RANGE ... PRECEDING windows in OVER

2013-07-01 Thread Josh Berkus
On 07/01/2013 12:05 AM, ian link wrote: Definitely not this week. Hopefully for next commit fest. OK, marked Returned with Feedback. It'll be up to you to add it to the next commitfest if you think it's ready by then. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent

Re: [HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-06-30 Thread Josh Berkus
tests for the next 3 months, and so that Andrew can work on the buildfarm additions. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Eliminating PD_ALL_VISIBLE, take 2

2013-06-30 Thread Josh Berkus
I thought that Jeff withdrew this patch. He did, but nobody removed it from the commitfest --- partly because of a change of subject line breaking the thread. Bounced to returned with feedback now. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Support for RANGE ... PRECEDING windows in OVER

2013-06-30 Thread Josh Berkus
. I think I will address those after the opclass stuff is done. Are these things you plan to get done this week, or for next CommitFest? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-06-29 Thread Josh Berkus
else, then go for it. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Bugfix and new feature for PGXS

2013-06-29 Thread Josh Berkus
then that path is used instead of a path inferred from the name of the Makefile. SO is this patch returned with feedback? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription

Re: [HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-06-29 Thread Josh Berkus
is abysmal, and I think I'm starting to see why. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-06-29 Thread Josh Berkus
we want to include the core tests in those? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [RFC] Minmax indexes

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
and pervasive use case. If Alvaro gets to it, I think the updating the range, rescan at VACUUM time approach isn't much more complex, but if he doesn't I'd still vote to accept the feature. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] fallocate / posix_fallocate for new WAL file creation (etc...)

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
! Thank you. Greg, are you still working on those tests? Since Greg seems to be busy, what needs to be done to test this? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription

[HACKERS] [9.3 CF 1] 2 Weeks In The problem with Performance Patches

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
are qualified to review any of the above, please get started *now*, and leave the non-performance patches for later; (2) ideas on how we can speed up/parallelize performance testing efforts are extremely welcome. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Add more regression tests for ASYNC

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
that creates a view test: rules -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Add more regression tests for ASYNC

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
On 06/28/2013 12:42 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: On 05/13/2013 05:37 PM, Robins Tharakan wrote: Hi, Patch to add more regression tests to ASYNC (/src/backend/commands/async). Take code-coverage from 39% to 75%. This isn't applying for me anymore due to changes in the parallel_schedule file

Re: [HACKERS] Add some regression tests for SEQUENCE

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
... FAILED Thoughts? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
seconds per run on my laptop), in order to greatly improve regression test coverage. I'd say that splitting the tests is not warranted, and that we should go ahead with these tests on their testing merits, not based on any extra check time they might add. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

Re: [HACKERS] Add some regression tests for SEQUENCE

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
checkout the latest revision and submit this patch again. I was only checking test timing, per my earlier email. I haven't looked at the tests themselves at all. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Add some regression tests for SEQUENCE

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
checkout the latest revision and submit this patch again. I was only checking test timing, per my earlier email. I haven't looked at the tests themselves at all. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] New regression test time

2013-06-28 Thread Josh Berkus
, it would require 15 more patch sets the size of Robins' to get there, so I don't see that it's worth the trouble any time soon. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription

Re: [HACKERS] Kudos for Reviewers -- straw poll

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Berkus
reviewers to do more reviews. But that would only work if we're also giving reviewers credit; as several people have said, they care more about credit than they do about prizes. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] patch submission: truncate trailing nulls from heap rows to reduce the size of the null bitmap [Review]

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Berkus
All, So, is this patch currently depending on performance testing, or not? Like I said, it'll be a chunk of time to set up what I beleive is a realistic performance test, so I don't want to do it if the patch is likely to be bounced for other reasons. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

Re: [HACKERS] Kudos for Reviewers -- straw poll

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Berkus
If we're going to try harder to ensure that reviewers are credited, it'd probably be better to take both the commit log and the release notes out of that loop. I'd pull the reviewers out of the CF app. Even in its current implementation, that's the easiest route. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] ASYNC Privileges proposal

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Berkus
permissions on LISTEN/NOTIFY period. However, I'd like to see separate permissions on LISTEN and NOTIFY; I can easily imagine wanting to grant a user one without the other. Also, someone would need to do performance tests to see how much the permissions check affects performance. -- Josh Berkus

Re: [HACKERS] patch submission: truncate trailing nulls from heap rows to reduce the size of the null bitmap [Review]

2013-06-27 Thread Josh Berkus
of 100 random column positions = some value 4) time required to insert 1000 rows 5) time required to update 1000 rows Geez, I feel tired just thinking about it. Jamie, can your team do any of this? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] Add more regression tests for CREATE OPERATOR

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Berkus
doesn't have a full report from you. Thanks! -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Add more regression tests for CREATE OPERATOR

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Berkus
. All tests pass, the test coverage increses as provided.? Or do you expect some more info? Yes, mainly: a) does it test what it purports to test? b) do the tests pass on your machine? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] Kudos for Reviewers -- straw poll

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Berkus
patch, get listed after the original patch author with the patch, and reviewers do more lightweight reviews get listed at the bottom of the release notes? Seems fair to me. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Add more regression tests for dbcommands

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Berkus
systematically, and I feel that it would be sad if they were lost. My thinking was that someone should add all of his new tests at once, and then see how much of a time difference they make. If it's 7 seconds, who cares? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via

Re: [HACKERS] Spin Lock sleep resolution

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Berkus
discussion which blocks commit are waiting on author rather than some other status. It was not clear to me (or to Mike) that the dicussion on this patch was concluded favorably. Is it? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql

[HACKERS] Testing Cascading Replication

2013-06-26 Thread Josh Berkus
working again. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] Kudos for Reviewers -- straw poll

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
, as a promotion to increase the number of non-submitter reviewers? a) yes b) no c) yes, but submitters and committers should get it too Thanks for your feedback! -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] Kudos for Reviewers -- straw poll

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
and without the horrible logistics issues of mailing tshirts to 15 countries. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Kudos for Reviewers -- straw poll

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
NOT have a shortage of patch submitters. Seems like we should apply incentives where we need help, no? Mind you, my votes are (B), (A), and (A). -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes

Re: [HACKERS] pluggable compression support

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
... We have access to attorneys, both in the US and Canada. I will proceed to ask for real legal advice. However, can you tell me what exactly you are concerned about? lz4 is under the BSD license, and released by Google. Why are we worried, exactly? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

Re: [HACKERS] pluggable compression support

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
On 06/25/2013 12:23 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: However, can you tell me what exactly you are concerned about? lz4 is under the BSD license, and released by Google. Why are we worried, exactly? Patents. The license on the code doesn't matter --- worst case

Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: [HACKERS] Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
. Please plow ahead. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: FILTER for aggregates [was Re: [HACKERS] Department of Redundancy Department: makeNode(FuncCall) division]

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
this feature? Will being non-spec introduce migration pain? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Review: UNNEST (and other functions) WITH ORDINALITY

2013-06-25 Thread Josh Berkus
, this isn't stopping the patch; I just want a TODO for implement WITH ORDINALITY in the target list for SRFs. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
emails yesterday, I am trying to make sure that this CF finishes on time. Following the rules passed at the developer meetings for how CFs are to be run, I am doing so. If the result is unsatisfactory, I can always resign as CFM. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
On 06/24/2013 10:02 AM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote: Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: patch. The vast majority chose not to respond to my email to them at all. When private email fails, the next step is public email. The only problem I have here is that I don't remember about deciding

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
from abroad. I have previously proposed that all of the reviewers of a given PostgreSQL release be honored in the release notes as a positive incentive, and was denied on this from doing so. Not coincidentally, we don't seem to have any reviewers-at-large anymore. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
with one hand tied behind my back. That's what I'm saying. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
it transparently clear to those folks' bosses that they have to give their staff time for patch review if they expect to get the features *they* want into PostgreSQL. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
review it within 5 days or else policy combined with a ton of my own work has kept me back so far. Thanks! Your help is much appreciated, on whatever schedule you can do it! -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
money, you know. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
a compiled list of reviewers at the end of the release notes, in the form of: Reviewers and Testers for #.# Included: name, name, name, name That way we can pick up the trivial reviewers as well, and even testers who are not otherwise contributors. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

Re: [HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
be committing simple patches, as they won't be able to review others. Commit a simple patch, review a simple patch. If we have 20 submitters of simple patches, then we have 20 simple patches to review, no? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] PLR does not install language templates

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
| plpython2u | f | f | plpython2_call_handler | plpython2_inline_handler | plpython2_validator | $libdir/plpython2 | plpython3u | f | f | plpython3_call_handler | plpython3_inline_handler | plpython3_validator | $libdir/plpython3 | (8 rows) -- Josh

Re: [HACKERS] PLR does not install language templates

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
PLs, and for that you don't need a pltemplate entry. It's likely that pg_pltemplate will disappear entirely before long. Ah, ok. Thanks! -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [HACKERS] patch submission: truncate trailing nulls from heap rows to reduce the size of the null bitmap [Review]

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
was comprehensive; I was planning to develop one myself this week. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] patch submission: truncate trailing nulls from heap rows to reduce the size of the null bitmap [Review]

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
, there are multiple issues with having hundreds of columns, of which storage optimization is only one ... and probably the smallest one at that. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [HACKERS] patch submission: truncate trailing nulls from heap rows to reduce the size of the null bitmap [Review]

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Berkus
. Anyway, let's decide if acceptance of this patch hinges on performance or not. I'll take me a whole evening to set up a good performance test, so I don't want to do it if it's going to be a moot point. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing

Re: [HACKERS] Naming of ORDINALITY column

2013-06-23 Thread Josh Berkus
that look like, syntactically? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] Commitfest Week One

2013-06-23 Thread Josh Berkus
, XLogInsert scaling, preserving forensic information when we freeze, remove PD_ALL_VISIBLE. These shoud be addressed early so that we can work out the conflicts between them. So, some progress, but more is needed. --Josh Berkus CommitFest Manager -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

[HACKERS] [9.4 CF 1] The Commitfest Slacker List

2013-06-23 Thread Josh Berkus
, so these folks are not necessarily slackers (although with Bruce, we know for sure): Bruce Momjian (momjian) Michael Meskes (meskes) Teodor Sigaev (teodor) Andrew Dunstan (adunstan) Magnus Hagander (mha) Itagaki Takahiro (itagaki) -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com

Re: [HACKERS] Why can't I use windowing functions over ordered aggregates?

2013-06-21 Thread Josh Berkus
FOLLOWING) from foo; What do you expect SELECT first(val order by ts desc) to output ? Ah, right, I see what you mean. Yeah, I was doing queries without peer rows, so it looked the same to me, and it uses some of the same machinery. But of course it's not completely the same. -- Josh Berkus

Re: [HACKERS] Hardware donation

2013-06-21 Thread Josh Berkus
might possibly be SSD). I'm sure we could use these for the performance test farm. If we need to replace some of the drives, the community has money for that. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Hardware donation

2013-06-21 Thread Josh Berkus
Who can be point of contact from the community to arrange shipping, etc? I can be. And I'll handle the tax credit once the servers are received. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] Fixed Cardinality estimation with equality predicates between column of the same table

2013-06-21 Thread Josh Berkus
On 06/21/2013 02:33 PM, desmodemone wrote: Hi all, I see a strange behavior ( for me ) on 9.2 (but seems the same on 9.1 and 9.3) of the optimizer on query like that : Matteo, I just posted this on -performance. See Tom's answer. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Exorcise zero-dimensional arrays (Was: Re: Should array_length() Return NULL)

2013-06-20 Thread Josh Berkus
a choice about creating new function names and then waiting three years to deprecate the old ones. We really can't afford to put obstacles in the way of people upgrading, especially over an issue as minor as this one. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql

[HACKERS] Why can't I use windowing functions over ordered aggregates?

2013-06-20 Thread Josh Berkus
operation. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] How do we track backpatches?

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Berkus
I'd imagine having a CF entry per release, so after a set of minor releases, the CF is closed. How would we name these? Also, what about patches for beta? Should we have a beta CF? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql

Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: [HACKERS] Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Berkus
On 06/19/2013 10:48 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On 6/13/13 5:47 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: 2. File name to store settings set by ALTER SYSTEM command is still persistent.auto.conf Why? Shouldn't it just be auto.conf? Or system.auto.conf? I prefer auto.conf, personally. Well, not much about

Re: [HACKERS] ASYNC Privileges proposal

2013-06-18 Thread Josh Berkus
ON ALL TO admin; I can certainly see wanting this, but it'd be a great deal more sophisticated than what Chris has proposed. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription

Re: [HACKERS] SET work_mem = '1TB';

2013-06-18 Thread Josh Berkus
. Well, I think that someone needs to actually test doing a sort with, say, 100GB of RAM and make sure it doesn't crash. Anyone have a machine they can try that on? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: [HACKERS] Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])

2013-06-18 Thread Josh Berkus
: 1) short 2) significantly different from postgresql.conf 3) near the beginning of the alphabet, so it should sort near the top if there are other files in conf/ directory -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] SET work_mem = '1TB';

2013-06-18 Thread Josh Berkus
On 06/18/2013 10:59 AM, Simon Riggs wrote: Thanks. Please delete the patch marked Batch API for After Triggers. All others are submissions by me. The CF app doesn't permit deletion of patches, so I marked it returned with feedback. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com

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