On 08/06/2015 12:45 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
On 6 August 2015 at 20:14, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Speaking from a user perspective, SYSTEM seems broken to me. I can't
imagine using it for anything with a that degree of variation in the
number
On 08/06/2015 01:19 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
On 6 August 2015 at 21:14, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com
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On 08/06/2015 01:10 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
Given, user-stated probability of accessing a block of P and N total
blocks, there are a few ways
.
Speaking from a user perspective, SYSTEM seems broken to me. I can't
imagine using it for anything with a that degree of variation in the
number of results returned, especially if it's possible to return zero
rows from a populated table.
BERNOULLI works as expected.
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Please check over the attached for errors.
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PostgreSQL 9.5 Alpha 2 Released
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The PostgreSQL Global
and/or on PGXN.
Yes, for tools with overhead we might want to require enabling them in
pg.conf. But that's very different from requiring the user to install a
separate package.
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On 08/05/2015 10:29 AM, Joe Conway wrote:
On 08/05/2015 10:15 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
* Make pg_dump work back up Row Level Security policies
There were far more than this single bugfix related to RLS. You might
want to say something like:
* Numerous Row Level Security related bug fixes
I
On 08/05/2015 10:26 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:22:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 08/05/2015 10:00 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Anyway, the patch as proposed puts the new functions in core as builtins
(which is what Bruce seems to be objecting to). Maybe instead
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On 07/31/2015 10:43 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
In guc.c, the maximum for wal_buffers is INT_MAX. However, wal_buffers
is actually measured in 8KB buffers, not in bytes. This means that
users are able to set wal_buffers 2GB
Noah, All:
Where are we with this? Do we feel confident that this bug is only on
old versions of Solaris we don't care about? Or does it remain to be
resolved?
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that clog size had some major performance impacts.
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diff --git a/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c b/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
new file mode 100644
index 1b7b914..b3dac51
*** a/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
--- b/src/backend/utils/misc
for 9.4/9.5
Please explain in your nomination what things the nominee did.
You do not need to tell me about anything which is in the release notes;
I'll get that from them.
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previously discussed reasons
pg_recovery_config(config_item TEXT)
returns the specified configuration item from recovery.conf
superuser-only?
Does this make sense? Is there other information we need?
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as well, with some syntax.
Seems like a perfect candidate for returned with feedback. We'll
straighten it out by the next commitfest.
Also note that this has actually spiralled out into 2 or 3 separate
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... so please get those fixes/overhauls in in the next week.
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implementation we end up with, A1 might not even be visible to Y().
So that solves your use case without any need to block ATXs in called
functions. However, it leads to some interesting cases involving
self-deadlocks; see the original post on this thread.
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On 07/27/2015 03:12 PM, Joel Jacobson wrote:
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com
mailto:j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Ah, you're missing how commits in ATX are expected to work. Let me
illustrate:
X (
Data write A1
call Y
On 07/25/2015 07:05 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
If not, I'm going to make a little personal project of them for myself
(targeting 9.6).
Nope. In fact, even the one which was 90% complete (replacing zlib with
lz4) completely dropped off the radar.
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probably neither easy
nor uncontroversial.
That's more-or-less a summary of what I just posted.
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indexes and frequenly-updated tables should be a blocker for 9.5. Not
clear on whether we're considering this an open item or not.
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On 07/23/2015 11:39 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Requesting for everyone's opinion regarding this based on which we can
proceed to enhance/tune/re-write our design.
So, one of the things which came up during the discussion
. And the results was
I believe that pgStrom has its own mailing list. KaiGai?
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Sounds like the overwhemling consensus is Alpha2 then. Will run with it.
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At the Developer's Meeting, we said we'd be releasing an alpha or beta
each month until final 9.5 release. As such, we should be releasing a
9.5 alpha/beta in the first week of August.
My question for Hackers is: should this be Alpha2 or Beta 1?
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the above would execute a pgbench with 16 clients, 4 threads, script1
three times as often as script2, and report stats at the script (rather
than SQL statement) level.
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Pavel, All:
Just to be clear, the idea of a global temp table is that the table def
is available to all users, but the data is private to each session?
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To make
synch rep, but if we add
names it will make the non-JSON syntax less compact.
I'm guessing it'd be really ugly/hard to support at least this GUC being
multi-line?
Yes.
Mind you, multi-line GUCs would be useful otherwise, but we don't want
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into account, heavily. Can we do
that? Is correlation even part of the index costing method now? How
accurate are our correlation estimates?
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On 07/07/2015 11:29 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Josh Berkus (j...@agliodbs.com) wrote:
On 07/07/2015 09:06 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
To make it accessible to monitoring systems that don't run as superuser
(which should be most monitoring systems, but we have other cases making
that hard
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On 07/06/2015 06:40 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:56 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
pro-JSON:
* standard syntax which is recognizable to sysadmins and devops.
* can use JSON/JSONB functions with ALTER SYSTEM SET to easily make
additions/deletions from
On 07/06/2015 09:56 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
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On 07/06/2015 06:40 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:56 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
pro-JSON:
* standard syntax which is recognizable
it your best effort.
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this thread who *would*, let's speak to their use case and then we can
actually get the feature right. Anyone?
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On 07/02/2015 11:31 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2015-07-02 11:10:27 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
If we're always going to be polling the replicas for furthest ahead,
then why bother implementing quorum synch at all? That's the basic
question I'm asking. What does it buy us that we don't already
and
fruitful as possible.
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nobody is using checksums
because of the dump/reload requirement. And that OS packagers aren't
packaging PostgreSQL with checksums in the initial initdb because of the
upgrade barrier.
I'm not so sure about your solution, but it seems like we need *something*.
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Replying to multiple people below.
On 07/01/2015 07:15 AM, Fujii Masao wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
You're confusing two separate things. The primary manageability problem
has nothing to do with altering the parameter. The main problem
On 06/29/2015 07:53 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
On 06/29/2015 02:08 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Joyent confirms that the bug is fixed on SmartOS:
The more interesting bit of information would
On 06/29/2015 01:01 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Right. Well, another reason we should be using a system catalog and not
a single GUC ...
I assume that this takes into account the fact that you will still
need a SIGHUP
On 06/29/2015 02:08 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Joyent confirms that the bug is fixed on SmartOS:
The more interesting bit of information would be *when* it was fixed.
Answer: not certain, but fixed at least 2 years ago.
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modified byte at
58 (0x0)
locale : strxfrm returned 26; last modified byte at 27 (0x0)
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and EDB support more OldSolaris customers than anyone,
AFAIK, so I'd like to her some opinions from them ...
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On 06/28/2015 04:36 AM, Sawada Masahiko wrote:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
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I think your proposal is worth considering, but you would need to fill
in a lot more details and explain how it works in detail
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Finally, while I'm raining on everyone's parade: the mechanism of
identifying synchronous replicas by setting the application_name on the
replica is confusing and error-prone; if we're building out synchronous
replication into a sophisticated system, we ought to think about
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On 06/25/2015 11:04 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
On 06/25/2015 08:12 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
I can't see doing a release just for this. If we were due for releases
anyway, sure, but we've considerably overstressed our poor packagers of
late. Previous discussion
regularly need to spin up 200 new
connections in 90 seconds due to usage peaks.
On the other hand, do I want to do another update release right away?
No. Hard place, meet rock.
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On 06/25/2015 10:47 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
OK, this is pretty bad in its real performance effects. On a workload
which is dominated by new connection creation, we've lost about 17%
throughput.
Mistakes happen
invalidation is really costing us 17%. :-(
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eligibility, of course.
Other than that, I'd be interested to see how it works out.
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... apparently nobody disagrees ...
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if it's a bug we want to
investigate, I need to do forensics now.
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and toes.
Backwards-compatability for pgdump, pg_basebackup, initdb, etc. matters.
The worst case with pgbench is that we break two people's test scripts,
they read the release notes, and fix them.
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On 06/19/2015 02:51 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
On 05/14/2015 12:10 PM, Fabien COELHO wrote:
Add backslash continuations to pgbench custom scripts.
I don't personally agree. I believe that it it worth breaking backwards
compatibility to support line breaks
-of-statement. Backwards-compatability in custom pgbench scripts is
not critical; pgbench scripts are neither used in produciton, nor used
in automated systems much that I know of.
I'm not clear on why we'd need a full SQL lexer.
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On 06/14/2015 11:44 PM, Craig Ringer wrote:
Has anything actually happened on the Greenplum release at this point?
All I can find are the same old press releases.
Nothing has happened.
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they should go in their own directory in the future.
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we want to change, and simply
error that we can't find the history file instead of FATAL?
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of things like security releases. I agree
that general advocacy can certainly be handled outside core, and should
be -- and, for that matter, is.
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On 06/10/2015 11:35 PM, Noah Misch wrote:
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First draft of the release announcement.
Noah, thank you for corrections!
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It seems that only this last one is where most people seem to have a
problem. I wonder if it makes sense to create a separate group that
handles release activites -- the release team.
De-facto, this is Packagers. Which is maybe not the best system, but
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versions. So there's no
reason for this note.
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or 9.3.8? It was
working in our previous setup, on 9.3.5, although that could have just
been that the history file hadn't been removed from the backups yet.
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To make
, is there some challenge to stopping just short of
the value I'm not seeing? Or is this just a didn't get to it yet issue?
I'm trying to estimate the difficulty of creating this operator in an
extension (obviously we're not doing it for 9.5), and maybe for 9.6.
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On 06/09/2015 04:38 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
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Tom, all:
First draft of the release announcement.
Please improve/edit/correct. Thanks!
Some comments:
s/expecially/especially.
Thanks, fixed
This bug fix
Tom, all:
First draft of the release announcement.
Please improve/edit/correct. Thanks!
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2015-06-12 Update Release
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The PostgreSQL Global Development Group has released an update to all supported versions
people even update binaries with the server
running; if they don't restart immediately, it could be several days
before it fails to start. It's pretty scary.
I'm confused by this discussion. 9.4.3 is released.
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it with production data.
Yes ... that seems like a good compromise.
Frankly, I'm testing 9.5 already; having alpha packages would make that
testing easier for me, and maybe possible for others.
We'd need to take into account that our packagers are a bit overworked
this month due to update releases ...
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, then let's please
make it an *intensive* cleanup delay, with specific goals, milestones,
and a schedule. Otherwise, don't bother.
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) deployment.
That is, we can get packager fatigue where some updates don't get
packaged, and we can get user fatigue where they start ignoring updates.
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the
heck out of it.
Also ... if we were to rename it, it should be pg_wal or pg_xact.
Please let's not add yet another term for the WAL.
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this on DBT3, if that's possible for him.
I'm very worried about an unanticipated regression.
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On 06/01/2015 03:22 PM, Tomas Vondra wrote:
On 06/01/15 23:47, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 06/01/2015 02:18 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Anybody else want to speak for or against back-patching the patch as
posted? I intentionally didn't push it in before today's releases,
but I will push it later
On 06/01/2015 04:22 PM, Thomas Munro wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Also ... if we were to rename it, it should be pg_wal or pg_xact.
Please let's not add yet another term for the WAL.
+1 for pg_wal if it has to be renamed.
If pg_clog also has
On 05/29/2015 10:45 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
Andres,
* Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
On 2015-05-29 10:15:56 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
pg_drop_replication_slot() can be a time-critical function when the
master is running out of disk space because the replica is falling
behind
On 05/29/2015 11:07 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2015-05-29 10:53:30 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 05/29/2015 10:45 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
So, here's they scenario:
1. you're almost out of disk space due to a replica falling behind, like
down to 16mb left. Or maybe you are out of disk space
fail in
production. I think the simplest way to resolve this would be to add a
boolean flag to pg_drop_replication_slot(), which would terminate the
replication connection and delete the slot as a single operation.
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On 05/29/2015 11:01 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Josh Berkus (j...@agliodbs.com) wrote:
1. you're almost out of disk space due to a replica falling behind, like
down to 16mb left. Or maybe you are out of disk space.
This right here is a real issue. What I'd personally like to see
, that'd be one possible
way to fix it ...
FWIW, neither of the projects I know of which uses ISBN has had any
issues with the range since the 2010 updates. While the ranges can be
updated in theory, in practice is happens glacially slowly.
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connection relates to which
slots, as far as I can tell.
In this test, it's easy because there's only one replication connection
and one slot. But imagine the case of 14 replication connections with
their own slots. How could you possibly figure out which one was the
laggy one?
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working with them and convincing them that a change to packaging
is worthwhile. And then getting the news to our users.
Given that, there needs to be significant benefit to our users in the
change. So, what's the benefit?
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On 05/29/2015 02:08 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
A. Extra commands and tools which aren't considered general enough, or
reliable enough, to be included by default, e.g. pg_standby, pgbench and
vacuumlo.
B. Developer tools
All,
Just saw what looks like a report of this issue on 9.2.
https://github.com/wal-e/wal-e/issues/177
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for public announcement Thursday.
regards, tom lane
Tom,
thanks for the advise.
I will postpone the deployment of new packages for cygwin
until 9.4.3 will be available.
You're doing the cygwin packages? You should probably be on the
packagers list, then, no?
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On 05/25/2015 11:09 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
On May 26, 2015 07:31, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us
mailto:t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com mailto:j...@agliodbs.com writes:
We need to get a notice out to our users who might update their servers
and get stuck behind
On 05/26/2015 10:57 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Where did we get the idea that this issue only affects symlinked files?
Nobody said any such thing. My point was that permissions and ownership
both have to be looked at. The Debian situation
. Linux kernel version of the host?
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All,
If it's any consolation, the folks at kernel.org are having a bad week
too: http://lwn.net/Articles/645720/
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