Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 3 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: My primary desire is to avoid having to download several Meg of tar ball(s) in order to add a module to an existing server ... if that can be accomplished, then my main objection to adding things to the core

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ialup, and I believe there are still alot of places in Europe (or is/was it just GB?) that pay per byte for their bandwidth ... even myself, at home, on a cable modem, have at times found downloads to be atrociously slow due to load n the network ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Netwo

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ting server ... if that can be accomplished, then my main objection to adding things to the core CVS are eliminated ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 --

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

2005-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 3 May 2005, Tom Lane wrote: I think the idea is that plphp would be in our CVS, but would not be shipped as part of the main tarball, rather as its own separate tarball. That is what I'm hoping for ... if it can be sh

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
nd ports) can have a nice small, quick to download package instead of having to re-download a >11MB file each time ... I don't mind if its *also* ship'd in the main distribution as well, I just want that 'quick to download since I already have the libraries/headers installed'

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Why is dbmirror still there? Can't it be moved to pgfoundry? Anyone willing to take ownership of it to setup the project itself on pgfoundry? I thought it was

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Why is dbmirror still there? Can't it be moved to pgfoundry? Anyone willing to take ownership of it to setup the project itself on pgfoundry? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
method of extending 'make dist' for the release cycle can be devised so that pl/PHP (and the other pl/'s would be nice eventually) tar *with* the core .tar.gz *and* a seperate plphp-.tar.gz file that can be downloaded seperately, my arguments against will have been negated ...

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
anges and make sure they are implemented ... That is what pgFoundry was setup for ... to give projects the visibiilty they would get through the core distribution by making sure they are referenced in a central place, but providing the maintainers with direct CVS access to make changes to their

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: I posted this compromise and no one replied so I thought everyone was OK with it. It gets it into CVS, but has a separate

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: I posted this compromise and no one replied so I thought everyone was OK with it. It gets it into CVS, but has a separate compile stage to deal with the recursive dependency problem. Then

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ball bigger? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Decision Process WAS: Increased

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
nt over backwards to try and help set someone on the right path if the patch submission warrants it ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
s fully installed and using the new libpq. I think we had agreement on that solution. Last I read, both Tom and I were against it being in CVS (albeit for different reasons) ... and there hadn't been any discussions past the end of that thread that I've seen ... Marc G. Fournie

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ar as code submissions are concerned, Tom has pretty much been "final arbitrar" (not that I'm against that, I think its required to keep the code 'clean') ... those with cvs commit privileges are a bit higher on the totem, but they've already been "through the fir

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ve moved the site to the new server that just went online this past week ... its still not a rocket, but its not 'just crawling' either ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscr

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-05-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
is direction should contact the list, and make sure that there is some sort of liason ... that is by no means the wording I'd suggestion, just the concept ... this thread will act as a good 'heads up' to those already here, but its something that needs to be brought up regularly f

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze date for 8.1

2005-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Christopher Browne wrote: Martha Stewart called it a Good Thing when [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote: I know one person was talking about being able to target only those that pages that have changes, instead of the whole table ... but some sort of "

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze date for 8.1

2005-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
doing a massive import of data into a table, the last time I want is a VACUUM to cut in and slow down the loading ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze date for 8.1

2005-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
and having it one by default is going to cut down on surprises. Except for the surprise of peridically having the system go unresponsive because it hit a large table, and that new user wondering what is wrong with postgresql that it just stalls seemingly randomly :( Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] Woo hoo ... a whole new set of compiler headaches!!

2005-04-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Dave Held wrote: -Original Message- From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 8:56 AM To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: [HACKERS] Woo hoo ... a whole new set of compiler headaches!! :) GCC 4.0.0 has been released. [...] I

Re: [HACKERS] Woo hoo ... a whole new set of compiler headaches!!

2005-04-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Dave Held wrote: -Original Message- From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:46 AM To: Dave Held Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Woo hoo ... a whole new set of compiler headaches!! :) [...] With GCC 4.x

[HACKERS] Woo hoo ... a whole new set of compiler headaches!! :)

2005-04-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
in the gcc/gcc-4.0.0 subdirectory. As usual, a vast number of people contributed to this release -- far too many to thank by name! -- Mark Mitchell CodeSourcery, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (916) 791-8304 ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)

Re: [HACKERS] HAVING ...

2005-04-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Is there a reason (other then it hasn't been implemented yet?) that the following couldn't work? SELECT id,count(id) AS cnt FROM table WHERE id IN ( 1,2,3,4,5) GROUP BY

[HACKERS] HAVING ...

2005-04-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ROUP BY id HAVING count(id) = 2; The second one would have to 're-run' the COUNT against the table, would it not? Whereas the first would take the existing results? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Three-byte Unicode characters

2005-04-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
to be fixed, but not in a minor release. Agreed ... this is extending an existing feature to include a broader charset, not fixing a but ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 76

[HACKERS] 8.0.2 bundled ...

2005-04-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Will be on the main ftp site within the next 30 minutes ... tar sizes look right compared to 8.0.1 ... please check her over to make sure there are no problems ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy

Re: [HACKERS] 8.0.2 beta announcement??

2005-04-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
the win32 binaries that were built last week. Did we miss it (I can't see anythign in the archives), or have plans changed? Regards, Dave. Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ating a 'dist' target to makes a tar ball that includes everything required to build it seperately ... its a matter of finding the time to do it :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] plPHP in core?

2005-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
at are enabled thorugh an extensions.ini file ... Same thing happens with the various 'components' of postgresql, each are built/installed as seperate packages, where if the appropriate headers are already installed on teh machine, the core distribution doesn't have to be re-downloa

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] plPHP in core?

2005-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
uct to the server ,it gets 'auto-added' to the main index page, and have similar/same formats to give a consistency across different pieces of software ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscra

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
rk that someone else might be working on (ie. in this case, Dave's pl-j alternative to pl-java) ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] plPHP in core?

2005-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
language. Whatever I put into print will always benefit from a review. There is nothing stop'ng a chapter being added now, and a pointer to where to download it could be easily added as part of it .. Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EM

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
wheel 512 Feb 20 04:59 postgresql80-client drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Mar 19 04:59 postgresql80-server drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 24 04:59 postgresql_autodoc Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
(if more PLs) come online ... Also, since plPerlNG is maintained on PgFoundry, are the changes you are making to core getting migrated back to the main project itself? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
e to agree ... we're an "extensible database that requires the extensions to be in core" is effectively what is being said, which kinda defeats the 'extensible' nature ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PR

Re: [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
in having plPHP in core? Is there a reason why it can no longer operate as a standalone language out of pgfoundry, like pl/java and pl/perl? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ

[HACKERS] 8.0.2beta1 ... look her over ...

2005-03-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Let me know of any problems ... will announce her tomorrow if none ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Upcoming 8.0.2 Release

2005-03-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 March 2005 18:37 To: Dave Page Cc: Marc G. Fournier; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: RE: [HACKERS] Upcoming 8.0.2 Release On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Dave Page wrote: Not me

Re: [HACKERS] Upcoming 8.0.2 Release

2005-03-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Dave Page wrote: Not me, but bear in mind it's the Easter holidays, so I for one cannot guarantee I'll be able to package a windows installer for at least a few days. That's okay, we're only packaging a beta this weekend ... ---- Marc G. Fournier

[HACKERS] Upcoming 8.0.2 Release

2005-03-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Thursday. The reason for the gap is to give a bit of extra testing time due to the ARC->2Q changes ... Is anyone sitting on anything that they feel needs/should get into 8.0.2? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Moving a project from gborg to pgfoundry?

2005-03-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: If only the CVS/Mailing lists are needed, and nothing that is "in the database", then this shouldn't be too hard ... go to pgfoundry, submit for the new project ... once it is approved, create the various mailing

Re: [HACKERS] Moving a project from gborg to pgfoundry?

2005-03-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
mesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html ---(end of broadcast)------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (htt

Re: [HACKERS] GUC variable for setting number of local buffers

2005-03-19 Thread Marc G. Fournier
hat they're used for temporary tables). Anyone have a preference, or a better alternative? temp_buffers sounds more descriptive ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664

Re: [HACKERS] "they only drink coffee at dec"

2005-03-18 Thread Marc G. Fournier
here's a few jokes ... not that many ... Be almost cute to add a section to the web site that links to cvsweb to point out these ... making sure to link to the "oldest version in cvs that contains it" ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.h

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default wal_sync_method to open_sync for

2005-03-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
;s side ... Any 'risk of data loss' has always been taboo, making the default behaviour be to increase that risk seems to be a step backwards to me .. having the option, fine ... effectively forcing that option is what I'm against (and, by forcing, I mean how many ppl "change f

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default wal_sync_method to open_sync for

2005-03-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: 17 March 2005 05:32 To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Magnus Hagander; Tom Lane; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Merlin Moncure Subject: Re

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default wal_sync_method to open_sync for

2005-03-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
s bones warning around it so that they understand the risks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] PHP stuff

2005-03-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
llowed for PQresultErrorField, docs on PQtransactionStatus, etc. There shouldn' tbe any issues ... if I recall correctly, someone took the docs wholesale and bound/sold them as documentation at one point ... maybe an attribution as to where you got it from? Marc G. Fournier Hub

Re: [HACKERS] Bumping libpq version number?

2005-03-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
true only if the old libpq stays around, which isn't always the case. that's an administrative decision though, not ours ... we have source code going back to 6.x, so it isn't like older versions aren't available ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services

Re: [HACKERS] anoncvs unreachable?

2005-03-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
.ev1.net (66.98.241.125). I forgot to mention that this has been happening since last evening, so it's not just transient. Bruce just infformed me late this morning ... the server was rebooted and is now running again ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services

Re: [HACKERS] Interesting NetBSD annual report

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
rection was set by a group of very competent people, instead of just one person. The problem right now is that there are too many 'very competent people' ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscr

Re: [HACKERS] Development schedule

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
st have something credible X months before freeze", that diminishes the value of free time that people might have after that point. And, our 'feature freezes' have tended to be somewhat fluid ... its only when we finally hit the beta cycle itself that things become locked in

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-hackers] Daily digest v1.4988 (21 messages)

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
? I'd say the other way around ... at least when 'noone is around', one person that is can still work on the feature they are working on ... feature freeze when nobody around means the code stagnants since nobody is around to test/give feedback ... Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] Development schedule

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
are when they are planning, or on, holidays ;) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner w

Re: [HACKERS] Development schedule

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Josh Berkus wrote: Also, what do you think of Simon's plan for a 2-stage feature freeze? Maybe not so far apart ... maybe a month apart? I missed that ... could you re-summarize? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [

Re: [HACKERS] Interesting NetBSD annual report

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
t version of FreeBSD) over the next few months ... they've already re-written the VFS system, which we tax heavily, but haven't finished the rewrite of the unionfs code (which is how we tax VFS) which is in the works ... Love the OS ... not so haappy with the direction its tak

Re: [HACKERS] Some download statistics

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
significantly ... in my case, I need postgresql "server" on maybe one machine, but need just libpq on every other one that I run .. I've gotta sit down and see if I can figure out how to do thatt .. would really be interesting to see the stats if we had a seperate 'libpq'

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Development Plans

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Freitag, 25. Februar 2005 15:42 schrieb Marc G. Fournier: Based on past discussions on a 12 to 18 month dev cycle for 8.1, and based on past track record, I'd say closer to the 18 month, so figure on June '06, with freeze in January of &#x

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Development Plans

2005-02-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
a) ... subject to change, but I wouldn't expect a freeze until Jan '06, beta period might be shorter though ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 -

Re: [HACKERS] 8.0.X and the ARC patent

2005-02-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
thought we were looking at a 12-18 month cycle for 8.1? Which would put beta around January '06, no? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664

Re: [HACKERS] Some download statistics

2005-02-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Tom Lane wrote: Also: I notice that the README file that's supposed to tell people about the split-tarball scheme is not present in any of the recent-version subdirectori

Re: [HACKERS] Some download statistics

2005-02-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
g/pub/postgresql/%SUBDIR%/ \ ftp://ftp.tw.postgresql.org/pub/postgresql/%SUBDIR%/ \ ftp://ftp3.tw.postgresql.org/pub/postgresql/%SUBDIR%/ \ ftp://ftp.tr.postgresql.org/pub/SQL/postgresql/%SUBDIR%/ \ ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/%SUBDIR%/ Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] Some download statistics

2005-02-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
copy in there to the release script ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading throug

Re: [HACKERS] Some download statistics

2005-02-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
rough the web ... this doesn't track those using an ftp client going in and downloading files ... specifically, I know that all of the FreeBSD ports are based on the split distributions ... in the case of the postgresql80-server port, it only downloads base and opt and ignores

Re: [HACKERS] slow mail server ?

2005-02-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Sergey E. Koposov Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) Max-Planck Institute for Astronomy (Germany) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://lnfm1.sai.msu.su/~math/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TI

Re: [HACKERS] "external indices" ...

2005-02-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
quot; Does that help any? On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I believe that this is what Oleg et al tap into with the tsearch2 stuff, no? I have someone asking me about it, and want to make sure that I'm telling him the right

Re: [HACKERS] "external indices" ...

2005-02-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote: Marc, On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I believe that this is what Oleg et al tap into with the tsearch2 stuff, no? I have someone asking me about it, and want to make sure that I'm telling him the right answer ... is this what GiST is?

[HACKERS] "external indices" ...

2005-02-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
what we have in the docs the best place, or is there something someone else has written that gets into it even more? Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 76

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
chments on -patches as well. That's why we need a Bug Tracking System. It was discussed some time ago and what is the clue? IMHO A BTS is an essencial part in the software development process. So that we can count # of patch submitters? :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
uch differen then pointing out problems with a current implementation ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Matthew T. O'Connor wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Matthew T. O'Connor wrote: I think I'm telling you what you already know, but there are lots of names missing from that list (myself included), so that process isn't going to work. Wh

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
this list is of all those that submit'd patches to pgsql-patches itself, not any of the other lists ... if you did send it to pgsql-patches, please let me know the URL for the message, so that I can see what it was overlooked, and see if I can't improve the 'search' ... >

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Using the same search for 7.4 shows only 48 patch submitters, based on posts to pgsql-patches ... Aizaz Ahmed Alvaro Herrera Andreas Pflug Andrew Dunstan Barry Lind Bertrand Petit Bruce Momjian Bruno Wolff Christopher Browne Christopher Kings-Lynne Dave Cramer Dennis Björklund Fernando Nasser Ga

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote: But let me see if I can come up with some *very* rought #s ... 57 ... Alvaro Herrera Andreas Pflug Andrew Dunstan Andrew Hammond Bruce Momjian Christopher Kings-Lynne Claudio Natoli Dave Page David Fetter Dennis Bjorklund Ed L. Fabien COELHO Gaetano

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
em with commit logs is that a good portion are just 'reports from' vs patches ... neither method will necessarily be particularly accurate :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: ysc

Re: [HACKERS] Patch Count?

2005-02-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
dn't do it, but it might have been a guess of mine. Ya, I don't recall doing it either :) But let me see if I can come up with some *very* rought #s ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.7 -> 8.0.1 Bundles Ready ...

2005-02-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
/pub/src is now gone ... On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2005 10:52 To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: Dave Page; Marc G. Fournier; Tom Lane; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; David Fetter Subject: Re: [HACKERS

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.7 -> 8.0.1 Bundles Ready ...

2005-02-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: sub

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.7 -> 8.0.1 Bundles Ready ...

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
re to make Peter happy ... he didn't like the 'v' in the directory name, so we make the src directory that has 'non-v'd symlinks :) And yes, that is the *only* reason there is a src directory ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://w

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.7 -> 8.0.1 Bundles Ready ...

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
fixed On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: 31 January 2005 18:30 To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Cc: David Fetter Subject: [HACKERS] 7.2.7 -> 8.0.1 Bundles Ready ... Please rev

[HACKERS] New 7.2.7 Bundle Up

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Please check this one over ... Tom foudn some issues with the docs build that should be fixed ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of

[HACKERS] 7.2.7 -> 8.0.1 Bundles Ready ...

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Please review them to make sure they look already ... Dave, I've changed the symlink's as well ... Will announce everything publicly around 4am GMT tonight (midnight my time) to give ~10hrs for the rest to propogate out ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Serv

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-hackers] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
#x27; comment I made had to do with everyone panicking about a patent that doesn't yet exist, and comparing that to "chicken little and his 'the sky is falling'" ... *scratch head* Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email:

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-hackers] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
13G :) Something like 3G is justin's mailbox alone ... and i miscalculated how long it would take to move it back over to neptune :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ:

[HACKERS] Bundles running late ...

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
8.0.1 & 7.4.7 are currently both available for testing, and 7.3.9 is currently being built ... will pop a note once both 7.3. and 7.2 are also ready ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscr

[HACKERS] 8.0.1 bundled ...

2005-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
then normal ... will announce as soon as thye've been completed... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)---

[HACKERS] Packaging begins in 4 hours ...

2005-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Any last minute show stoppers that needs a bit more time, let me know before 23:00 GMT Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] IBM patent

2005-01-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
hange that. You and I might not have individual objections to this situation, but one or another of the companies putting together PostgreSQL releases very well might. But, there is nothing stop'ng them from replacing the ARC code with their own variant though ... ---- Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
for back patching to any of the releases, including 8.0.x ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: y

Re: [HACKERS] Security Release Packaging ...

2005-01-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is ~22:00GMT right now ... I will start the packaging process in approx. 3hrs and will announce once they are all ready ... I think we are gonna have to put it off a little bit. I haven't e

[HACKERS] Security Release Packaging ...

2005-01-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
It is ~22:00GMT right now ... I will start the packaging process in approx. 3hrs and will announce once they are all ready ... Just to clarify, we're doing: 8.0.1 And 7.4/7.3/7.2 branches ... correct? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [

Re: [HACKERS] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
e a smaller patch overall? Then, for our non-US users, they could continue to use ARC even after the patent (myself included), while a plug-in replacement could be available for US users? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Heads up: upcoming releases in all branches back to

2005-01-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Re: [HACKERS] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Hannu Krosing wrote: Ühel kenal päeval (teisipäev, 25. jaanuar 2005, 21:10-0400), kirjutas Marc G. Fournier: On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: So if we have to address it we call it 8.0.7 or something. My point is that we don't need to address it until we act

Re: [HACKERS] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: One problem in working around the GIF format patent is that you had to create a file that was readable by many of the existing GIF readers. With PostgreSQL, only we read our own data files so we can more easily make adjustments to

Re: [HACKERS] Patent issues and 8.1

2005-01-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
eaction to my ideas above. Is this a good plan? No, as an 8.0.x is mean to be for minor changes/fixes/improvements ... 'addressing a patnt conflict', at least in ARC's case, is a major change, which is why we are looking at a short dev cycle for 8.1 ... Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] Heads up: upcoming releases in all branches back to

2005-01-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
rrent thought is to wrap these on Thursday for release Friday. What timezone is that? Meaning at what time GMT (approx) can we expect the .tar.gz to show up? I generally try to do them around 8pm ADT (00:00 GMT) ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)

Re: [HACKERS] Goals for 8.1

2005-01-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Patrick Welche wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 05:21:35PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Benjamin Arai wrote: What are the goals for 8.1? Replace ARC ... anything else is a bonus ... So the betting is that the patent will be granted.. Actually, there is

Re: [HACKERS] Goals for 8.1

2005-01-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Benjamin Arai wrote: What are the goals for 8.1? Replace ARC ... anything else is a bonus ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664

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