Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 02:49:30PM +0700, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: On Mon, February 20, 2006 11:00, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Speaking for libpqxx, my only concern with that is the mailing list. Would those have to move to different addresses--or conversely, would a forced migration make

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Jim C. Nasby wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 02:49:30PM +0700, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: On Mon, February 20, 2006 11:00, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Speaking for libpqxx, my only concern with that is the mailing list. Would those have to move to different addresses--or

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:11:46PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Actually, it should be entirely possible to setup forwarding for projects as they migrate, one-by-one. AFAIK mailman will handle something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] being forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woo hoo ... a mailman

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Jim C. Nasby wrote: So, is there a formal project setup anywhere for the migration? ISTM that it would be best to create a project on either gborg or pgfoundry with the intention that it produce a set of code/scripts/procedures that allow for migrating projects from gborg

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 04:26:27PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Jim C. Nasby wrote: So, is there a formal project setup anywhere for the migration? ISTM that it would be best to create a project on either gborg or pgfoundry with the intention that it produce a set of

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-19 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joshua D. Drake Sent: Sun 2/19/2006 12:35 AM To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Christopher Browne; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down This is not get everything everyone wants before

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-19 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Dave Page wrote: Moving CVS is not a problem - each project has their own repo on both systems. The problem is moving all the database stuff such as the bug trackers and todo lists, for which I'm told there are no working scripts. The other one that caused me great pain when I moved psqlODBC

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-19 Thread Luke Lonergan
FYI - as a positive enhancement, Greenplum donated a beefy server to host pgFoundry. - Luke On 2/18/06 10:34 AM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-19 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Sun, February 19, 2006 05:10, Bruce Momjian wrote: I don't care what direction we go, just kill one. Speaking for libpqxx, my only concern with that is the mailing list. Would those have to move to different addresses--or conversely, would a forced migration make it much easier to move

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-19 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: On Sun, February 19, 2006 05:10, Bruce Momjian wrote: I don't care what direction we go, just kill one. Speaking for libpqxx, my only concern with that is the mailing list. Would those have to move to different addresses--or conversely, would

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-19 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Mon, February 20, 2006 11:00, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Speaking for libpqxx, my only concern with that is the mailing list. Would those have to move to different addresses--or conversely, would a forced migration make it much easier to move *all* GBorg mailing lists to pgFoundry and

[HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and shut one of them off. Just before shutting it off, we should dump the existing project information to an

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and shut one of them off. Just before shutting it off, we should dump the existing

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and shut one of them off. I've repeatedly

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 09:31:18AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and shut one of them off. Well, first you

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Indeed, we haven't made any particular effort to encourage gborg projects to move. I think it's a bit premature to hold a gun to their heads. Well that is not exactly true. We have been encouraging gborg projects to move for at least a year. What we haven't done is provided an easy means

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Indeed, we haven't made any particular effort to encourage gborg projects to move. I think it's a bit premature to hold a gun to their heads. Well that is not exactly true. We have been encouraging gborg projects to move for at least a year. What we haven't

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Thomas Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and shut one of them

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: If we could get to be running pgFoundry on the latest GForge, with PHP/CGI enabled project web pages, a database per project available, SVN as well as CVS, and a known stable mailman release we'd be in excellent shape. I'd rather move forwards than back. I don't

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Christopher Browne
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, pgman@candle.pha.pa.us (Bruce Momjian) wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Thomas Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Christopher Browne
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Dunstan) would write: If we could get to be running pgFoundry on the latest GForge, with PHP/CGI enabled project web pages, a database per project available, SVN as well as CVS, and a known stable mailman release we'd be in

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Christopher Browne wrote: Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Dunstan) would write: If we could get to be running pgFoundry on the latest GForge, with PHP/CGI enabled project web pages, a database per project available, SVN as well as CVS, and a known stable

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
Christopher Browne wrote: Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Dunstan) would write: If we could get to be running pgFoundry on the latest GForge, with PHP/CGI enabled project web pages, a database per project available, SVN as well as CVS, and a known stable

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake
This is not get everything everyone wants before shutting down a site time. We should move to one site, and if the new site is not to someone's liking, there is always sourceforge and other hosting sites. I do agree with Bruce here but... we need to make sure that we give everyone their

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Russell Smith
Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Thomas Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Christopher Browne wrote: Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Dunstan) would write: If we could get to be running pgFoundry on the latest GForge, with PHP/CGI enabled project web pages, a database per project available, SVN as well as CVS,

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Slony-I would move there fairly quickly upon availability of SVN; a lot of our folks would be pretty keen on storing things in SVN. *That* is about the only thing holding off migration for at least one project... SVN is installed on the pgFoundry server, but I think getting pgFoundry to use

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Slony-I would move there fairly quickly upon availability of SVN; a lot of our folks would be pretty keen on storing things in SVN. *That* is about the only thing holding off migration for at least one project... SVN is installed on the pgFoundry

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Having run had both pgfoundary and gborg for several years, I think we have to conclude that any clean migration is never going to happen, so let's just pick a server and announce date, and shut one of them off. Just before

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Christopher Browne
In an attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua D. Drake) transmitted: Slony-I would move there fairly quickly upon availability of SVN; a lot of our folks would be pretty keen on storing things in SVN. *That* is about the only thing holding off migration for

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've repeatedly asked for help moving my PL/Java stuff over to pgfoundry and offered my help in the process, claiming that the CVS repository and the mailing list are what really matters. I'd be fairly upset if gborg was shut down without that happening. FTP

Re: [HACKERS] Pgfoundry and gborg: shut one down

2006-02-18 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've repeatedly asked for help moving my PL/Java stuff over to pgfoundry and offered my help in the process, claiming that the CVS repository and the mailing list are what really matters. I'd be fairly upset if gborg was