> So are we eliminating the autocommit GUC entirely, or just from
> postgresql.conf?
It's a client side feature now. Completely gone from the server.
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Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So are we eliminating the autocommit GUC entirely, or just from
> postgresql.conf?
Entirely --- putting it on the server side was a bad mistake, in
hindsight. The functionality is better provided on the client side.
(The GUC var does still physically ex
Tom,
> Yes. It's toast ... didn't you see that flamewar a couple months ago?
Nope, missed it. There's enough traffic on this list that I ignore anything
that I'm not working on.
So are we eliminating the autocommit GUC entirely, or just from
postgresql.conf?
(I never used the setting, mys
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, Autocommit seems to be gone from postgresql.conf.sample. Was this
> intentional?
Yes. It's toast ... didn't you see that flamewar a couple months ago?
regards, tom lane
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Tom,
Also, Autocommit seems to be gone from postgresql.conf.sample. Was this
intentional?
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Tom,
I'm noticing re-namining of a lot of GUCs. As far as I can tell, the
re-naming is based on logical reasons -- for example, "log_hostname" is more
accurate that "hostname_lookup" -- but was a little surprised. We'd better
warn users who are upgrading
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One issue is that these settings don't even exist in most builds unless
you add compiler flags.
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Jan,
>
> > No, not documenting it IS a good move.
>
> I couldn't disagree more. Undocumented options
Okay, separate documentation might work ;-)
Jan
Josh Berkus wrote:
Jan,
No, not documenting it IS a good move.
I couldn't disagree more. Undocumented options? Who are we, Microsoft?
If there's a button people will
press it, if there's a switch people will turn it on and if there's a
slo
Jan,
> No, not documenting it IS a good move.
I couldn't disagree more. Undocumented options? Who are we, Microsoft?
> If there's a button people will
> press it, if there's a switch people will turn it on and if there's a
> slot people will stick in whatever they have ... believe it or
Justin Clift wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"wal_debug" is seldom used outside of Postgresql source development or unusual
system failures, and should therefore go last.
BTW, it occurs to me that wal_debug is one of the hacker-only variables
that probably ought not
Nigel J. Andrews wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> > Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Hey, I'm looking at the postgresql.conf.sample in CVS, and can't find the
> > > option that's supposed to let you turn off "Inserting missing FROM clause for
> > > table ..."
> >
> >
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hey, I'm looking at the postgresql.conf.sample in CVS, and can't find the
> > option that's supposed to let you turn off "Inserting missing FROM clause for
> > table ..."
>
> Bruce hasn't applied that patch yet. I
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Hey, I'm looking at the postgresql.conf.sample in CVS, and can't find the
> option that's supposed to let you turn off "Inserting missing FROM clause for
> table ..."
>
> I thought that patch was accepted 3 weeks ago? Is this just missing from
> postgresql.conf.s
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Tom, Justin,
>
> > Um, not documenting it is probably not a good move for us, however putting
> > it at the end in a section marked "Developer Focused" or something similar
> > would probably have the right mix of messages. i.e. "hands off" + "not a
> > performance tweak", et
Folks,
Attached is another order outline for the Postgresql.conf parameters, updated
for 7.4. Please examine it, and then give your opinions on the following:
1) Should "enable_implicit_from" go in the "Version/Platform Compatibility"
section where I have it now, or in "CLIENT CONNECTIONS-Sta
Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"wal_debug" is seldom used outside of Postgresql source development or unusual
system failures, and should therefore go last.
BTW, it occurs to me that wal_debug is one of the hacker-only variables
that probably ought not be documented at al
Tom,
Hey, I'm looking at the postgresql.conf.sample in CVS, and can't find the
option that's supposed to let you turn off "Inserting missing FROM clause for
table ..."
I thought that patch was accepted 3 weeks ago? Is this just missing from
postgresql.conf.sample?
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Tom, Justin,
> Um, not documenting it is probably not a good move for us, however putting
> it at the end in a section marked "Developer Focused" or something similar
> would probably have the right mix of messages. i.e. "hands off" + "not a
> performance tweak", etc.
So, proposal:
1) wal_debug
Tom,
> Bruce hasn't applied that patch yet. I believe he's starting to catch
> up the patch backlog today, though.
>
> BTW there is also a pending patch that will add a GUC variable to
> control "rendezvous" on Darwin. I had forgotten what-all was in the
> patch queue until I looked this mornin
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey, I'm looking at the postgresql.conf.sample in CVS, and can't find the
> option that's supposed to let you turn off "Inserting missing FROM clause for
> table ..."
Bruce hasn't applied that patch yet. I believe he's starting to catch
up the patch back
Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think this was touched on before, but was there a final determination
> of the ordering of the "show all" command?
SHOW ALL will remain alphabetical.
regards, tom lane
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I think people thought if you were doing SHOW ALL, you were looking for
a specific variable, so alphabetical was best.
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Robert Treat wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 11:23, Josh Berkus wrote:
> >
> > 4) Does anyone else ha
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "wal_debug" is seldom used outside of Postgresql source development or unusual
> system failures, and should therefore go last.
BTW, it occurs to me that wal_debug is one of the hacker-only variables
that probably ought not be documented at all. I cannot
I kind of prefer the way things were grouped together in 7.2 vs. 7.3. If I
needed to check out connection information or look at query tuning flags,
they were all right next to each other and I didn't have to scroll back and
forth through the list. Luckily most of the topical variables share so
Rod,
> > 4) Does anyone else have any comments on the proposed re-ordering?
>
> Since we're painting a shed, does it make sense to put the items in
> alphabetical order for each section?
I thought about that, yes. However, I find that most items have a logical
order that is not alphabetical.
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 14:16, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Rod,
>
> > > 4) Does anyone else have any comments on the proposed re-ordering?
> >
> > Since we're painting a shed, does it make sense to put the items in
> > alphabetical order for each section?
>
> I thought about that, yes. However, I find
> 4) Does anyone else have any comments on the proposed re-ordering?
Since we're painting a shed, does it make sense to put the items in
alphabetical order for each section?
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On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 11:23, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> 4) Does anyone else have any comments on the proposed re-ordering?
>
I think this was touched on before, but was there a final determination
of the ordering of the "show all" command? I'm hoping that will return
in the new order of the postgres
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1) Are any additional changes expected for GUC.c before feature-freeze?
I'm still thinking of adding an am_superuser variable so that psql can
rely on the new ParameterStatus mechanism instead of explicit queries to
find out if you're superuser. But this
Folks,
Last we talked (before the mail server went down) Tom had agreed in principle
to a re-ordering of postgresql.conf.sample and the "Run-Time Configuration"
docs page based on the attached ordering file.
I would like to make this happen before feature-freeze on June 15. To do
that, I nee
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