It's rumoured that David Fetter once said:
I guess that's OK, but it shows up like a beacon to all kinds of
hostile gear. Passive systems are usually a better bet.
Are there many hostile forces in your hallway?
:-)
/D
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On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 10:48:20AM -, Dave Page wrote:
It's rumoured that David Fetter once said:
I guess that's OK, but it shows up like a beacon to all kinds of
hostile gear. Passive systems are usually a better bet.
Are there many hostile forces in your hallway?
Most days not,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes:
The worst was my upstairs hallway that had no light fixtures, so
late at night if no other lights were on in the house, you had to
walk down the hallway with your hands out in front of you so you
didn't bump
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 18:37, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Robert Treat wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 15:28, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
I know most people have talked about using bugzilla, but is anyone
familiar with GNATS? I'm currently
Tom Lane writes:
What we could use instead is for someone knowledgeable to commit to
transferring *valid* emailed bug reports into the tracking system.
Bruce could do that if he wants, but there are surely dozens of other
people who would be qualified to handle this task.
I don't think we
I think we should use the best tool available, he is more than willing
to allow open source projects to use it for free.
Dave
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 23:19, Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Cramer wrote:
Jira is a fantastic bug tracking project management system
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think we need decicated bug transferrers. Typically, when someone
reports a problem by email, the first step is that some developer or other
expert responds (unless the reporter gets blown away by fellow users as
clueless :-)). So the
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing.jsp
I have no particular opinion on whether to use a free or non-free system
to track bugs, but I'd like to recommend RT as being a very capable and
useful program. It has been used to track Perl 5 and CPAN bugs for some
time now, and it happens to
I still think it would be a good idea to have one or two people actively
in charge of the overall health of the bug repository --- cross-linking
duplicate bugs, making sure fixed bugs get closed out, in general
correcting misinformation when they find it. This wouldn't be a large
I think
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing.jsp
Another option is free open source Scarab, http://scarab.tigris.org Actually,
I'd prefer it.
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Tom Lane wrote:
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think we need decicated bug transferrers. Typically, when someone
reports a problem by email, the first step is that some developer or other
expert responds (unless the reporter gets blown away by fellow users as
clueless
Here are the major things I do for the PostgreSQL project. Are there
some items I should be doing more/less of?
o Patches
o TODO/FAQ
o Email discussion, coordination
o Win32
o Talks
o Books/articles
o Web site cleanup
o
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:16:23PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are the major things I do for the PostgreSQL project. Are there
some items I should be doing more/less of?
o Patches
o TODO/FAQ
o Email discussion, coordination
o Win32
o Talks
o
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are the major things I do for the PostgreSQL project. Are there
some items I should be doing more/less of?
o Patches
o TODO/FAQ
o Email discussion, coordination
o Win32
o Talks
o Books/articles
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
I don't have an opinion on the Win32 issue.
I do :-)
I think the most important thing for Win32 is for you to set the
direction somewhat (i.e. in more detail than is on your win32 page) and
then jump on Joshua's offer of a dedicated developer (possibly two) to
work on
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are the major things I do for the PostgreSQL project. Are there
some items I should be doing more/less of?
o Patches
o TODO/FAQ
o Email discussion, coordination
o Win32
o Talks
Bruce Momjian writes:
o TODO/FAQ
The FAQ might as well be maintained just like the rest of the
documentation, i.e., by the development group as a whole.
The TODO list could be replaced by a kind of bug-tracking system with
developer write access only, so developers could keep their
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here are the major things I do for the PostgreSQL project. Are there
some items I should be doing more/less of?
o Patches
o TODO/FAQ
o Email discussion,
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Bruce Momjian writes:
o TODO/FAQ
The FAQ might as well be maintained just like the rest of the
documentation, i.e., by the development group as a whole.
I encourage others to commit to the FAQ.html file in CVS. The only
unique thing I do is to generate the
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 14:00, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Bruce Momjian writes:
o TODO/FAQ
The FAQ might as well be maintained just like the rest of the
documentation, i.e., by the development group as a whole.
I encourage others to commit to the FAQ.html file
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 14:00, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Bruce Momjian writes:
o TODO/FAQ
The FAQ might as well be maintained just like the rest of the
documentation, i.e., by the development group as a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes:
The worst was my upstairs hallway that had no light fixtures, so late at
night if no other lights were on in the house, you had to walk down the
hallway with your hands out in front of you so you didn't bump into
anything. We had a nightlight in the
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
I know most people have talked about using bugzilla, but is anyone
familiar with GNATS? I'm currently rereading Open Sources and there's a
paragraph or two mentioning it's use and the fact that it can be
interfaced with
Christopher Browne wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes:
The worst was my upstairs hallway that had no light fixtures, so late at
night if no other lights were on in the house, you had to walk down the
hallway with your hands out in front of you so you didn't bump into
anything. We
Christopher Browne wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes:
The worst was my upstairs hallway that had no light fixtures, so late at
night if no other lights were on in the house, you had to walk down the
hallway with your hands out in front of you so you didn't bump into
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bugzilla is far from perfect. But it's getting better.
FWIW, I would like to try a bugzilla-based tracking system for Postgres.
Our last attempt at a tracking system failed miserably, but I think that
was (a) because the software we tried was really
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
I don't have an opinion on the Win32 issue.
I do :-)
I think the most important thing for Win32 is for you to set the
direction somewhat (i.e. in more detail than is on your win32 page) and
then jump on Joshua's offer of a dedicated
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 23:07, Tom Lane wrote:
FWIW, I would like to try a bugzilla-based tracking system for Postgres.
Red Hat has been using a PG-based version of bugzilla for some time.
I'm not sure what the holdup is in getting that work merged back
upstream, but I'd sure like to see it
. if we used bugzilla this might give some impetus to the bugzilla team's
efforts to provide pg as a backend (maybe we could help with that)
I would actually suggest trying RT. It's not primarily a bug tracking system
and there's a bit of an impedance mismatch between a trouble ticketing
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:07:46PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Actually, whatever software we pick to run the tracking system,
my guess is that the experiment will not stand or fall on the software.
What we need for success is one or two people who will take
responsibility for housekeeping: putting
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 15:28, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
I know most people have talked about using bugzilla, but is anyone
familiar with GNATS? I'm currently rereading Open Sources and there's a
paragraph or two mentioning
Jira is a fantastic bug tracking project management system and is
available free of charge for open source projects.
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
Dave
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 16:48, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:07:46PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Actually, whatever
Robert Treat wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 15:28, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
I know most people have talked about using bugzilla, but is anyone
familiar with GNATS? I'm currently rereading Open Sources and there's a
Dave Cramer wrote:
Jira is a fantastic bug tracking project management system and is
available free of charge for open source projects.
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
Wow, that looks very cool indeed! And they are Aussies to boot! :-)
cheers
andreew
Tom Lane wrote:
Bugzilla already does email output (ie, notify you of changes to bug
entries you're interested in) well enough. We thought during the last
go-round that it was important to have email input so we could allow
mail to pgsql-bugs to go directly into the tracking system, but in
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bugzilla is far from perfect. But it's getting better.
FWIW, I would like to try a bugzilla-based tracking system for Postgres.
Our last attempt at a tracking system failed miserably, but I think that
was (a)
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Cramer wrote:
Jira is a fantastic bug tracking project management system and is
available free of charge for open source projects.
Wow, that looks very cool indeed! And they are Aussies to boot! :-)
But they don't seem to be on the
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