Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
thnks :) On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > OK, I have updated the file dates for a release tomorrow. > > > On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know > > > > when it will be released? > > > > > > Only

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, I have updated the file dates for a release tomorrow. > On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know > > > when it will be released? > > > > Only Marc knows. :-) > > Tomorrow aft ... sorry, got tied up with a cli

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know > > when it will be released? > > Only Marc knows. :-) Tomorrow aft ... sorry, got tied up with a client finishing his server move to v7.1 this afternoon, and we hit problems wit

Re: [HACKERS] IANA registration

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Did we get anywhere with this? > PostgreSQL typically uses port 5432 for client-server communications. > It would be a good idea to register this with IANA. This will help to > avoid a clash with other services that might try to use the port. > DB2, Interbase, MS SQL, MySQL, Oracle, Sybase, etc

Re: [HACKERS] Postmaster refuses to start

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My postmaster is refusing to start. I don't know what's wrong. If > anyone has pointers/tips/whatever, please tell me. Perhaps a gdb backtrace from one of the core files would yield clues. regards, tom lane -

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know > when it will be released? Only Marc knows. :-) -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blyt

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Joe Conway
> I think the XFS and Reiserfs folks will be happy to look at the performance > problem, but it would be very helpful for them to have a prepackaged > benchmark (or two or three) to use. We should set up an FTP area to share > them. Joe, can you contribute yours? Does anybody else have anythi

[HACKERS] Postmaster refuses to start

2001-05-04 Thread Roberto Mello
My postmaster is refusing to start. I don't know what's wrong. If anyone has pointers/tips/whatever, please tell me. One of my backup scripts was wrong so I don't have current backups (that's what you get for trusting other people to do your backups). Any way to recover my databas

Re: [HACKERS] "PQgetvalue: ERROR!

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
"Antonio Jose Acuña Jimenez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I need help in the following one for the following error > "PQGETVALUE: ERROR! tuple number 0 is out of range 0.. -1 > Segment violation" Pre-7.1 versions of pg_dump are not very robust about situations like functions whose owner doesn

Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: Re: [GENERAL] Unisersal B-Tree]

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
> ... Think of a query like this: > > select a,b,c from table where ( a>min_a and amin_b and b > In a conventional implementation you have two indexes on attributes a and b. > But to run this query the database engine profits only from one index. It has > to run through all the values of the oth

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Ken Hirsch
Joe Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've done some testing to see how Reiserfs performs > vs ext2, and also various for various values of wal_sync_method while on a > reiserfs partition. The attached graph shows the results. The y axis is > transactions per second and the x axis is the trans

[HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread G. Anthony Reina
I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know when it will be released? -Tony ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > There have been multiple reports of poor PostgreSQL performance on > > Reiser and xfs. I don't have numbers, though. Frankly, I think we need > > xfs and reiser experts involved to figure out our options here. > > I've done some testing to see how Reiserfs performs > vs ext2, and also vario

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > I got some information from Stephen Tweedie on this - please keep him > "Cc:" as he's not on this list > > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I was talking

[HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread mlw
Michael Samuel wrote: > > > Remember, general purpose file systems must do for files what Postgres is > > already doing for records. You will always have extra work. I am seriously > > thinking of trying a FAT32 as pg_xlog. I wonder if it will improve performance, > > or if there is just somethin

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Hi, > > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:49:54PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Performance doing what? XFS has known performance problems doing > > > unlinks and truncates, but not synchronous IO. The user should be > > > using fdatasync() for databases, btw, not fsync(). > > > > This i

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
"Ken Hirsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't have a machine with XFS installed and it will be at least a week > before I could get around to a build. Any volunteers? I think I could do that... any useful benchmarks to run? -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc.

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Metaphone function attachmenty

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Yeah, but things do seem to languish there for quite a while. (soundex(), > for instance, was in contrib when I first looked at PG). > > Also, some things are in contrib/ that seem a bit out of date (I think > there was still some early RI stuff in there last time I went through it) > > I unde

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Lamar Owen
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > What would be worthwhile is setting up another cvs module so packages can > be developed and released at their own pace. This is an _excellent_ point, and one I had thought of before but had forgotten. FWIW, I have a project set up at greatbridge.org -- I just have to g

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Lamar Owen
Karl DeBisschop wrote: > > Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > > > > Rachit Siamwalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Also i never got a response on who actually packages those linux init > > > scripts that appear in the RPM but not on the pgsql cvs tree. (i am also > > > curious on why it is di

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Metaphone function attachment

2001-05-04 Thread Joel Burton
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Joel Burton writes: > > > I think, as little things in contrib/, it's easy for people to miss > > these. With a project page, some discussion, etc. (& a place in contrib/), > > more people would be able to use these. > > Most of the extension functi

[HACKERS] Re: what is the limit for string

2001-05-04 Thread Joel Burton
On Tue, 1 May 2001, Rosie Sedghi wrote: > hello > Would you tell me how many characters we can have as a string field? > Thanks a lot. Questions like this should be sent to pgsql-general or pgsql-novice. There is no string field. There are CHAR, VARCHAR, TEXT, and a few other unusual text-type

[HACKERS] Re: help!

2001-05-04 Thread Joel Burton
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Jeff Vainio wrote: > Hello! I am a Technical Recruiter with MIS Consultants in Toronto Canada and I >desperately need to find 2 POSTGRES DBA's for our Toronto client on a 3-4 month >renewable contract, open $$$ based on experience. > > How do I go about finding these guys?

Re: [HACKERS] SAPDB Open Souce

2001-05-04 Thread Marten Feldtmann
Bruce Momjian schrieb: > > > Hi guys, > > > > I've used the open source SAPDB and the performance is pretty damned > > impressive. However, 'open source' in application to it is somewhat > > deceptive, since you have to make it with SAP's proprietary build > > tools/environment. > > > > In my o

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Karl DeBisschop writes: > PostgreSQL builds are great for the portability. The next logical step > might in fact be to extend some of that consistency to the package > creation arena. This would have been cool in 1996. We would have evolved a large number of different packages along with the bu

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Metaphone function attachment

2001-05-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joel Burton writes: > I think, as little things in contrib/, it's easy for people to miss > these. With a project page, some discussion, etc. (& a place in contrib/), > more people would be able to use these. Most of the extension functions and types in contrib should, in my mind, eventually be

[HACKERS] [Fwd: Re: [GENERAL] Unisersal B-Tree]

2001-05-04 Thread Justin Clift
Hi all, Not sure if this is useful, but it might be good to file and reference somewhere. Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift Original Message Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Unisersal B-Tree Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:59:49 +0200 From: Jörg Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: G

[HACKERS] Re: Learning from other open source databases

2001-05-04 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Here is a general call for people to review other open-source database > software and report back on things PostgreSQL can learn from them. i don't know how much there is to learn since it doesn't seem as though development has been active in a few years, but there's also

[HACKERS] what is the limit for string

2001-05-04 Thread Rosie Sedghi
hello Would you tell me how many characters we can have as a string field? Thanks a lot. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

[HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] Cyrillic to UNICODE conversion

2001-05-04 Thread Victor Wagner
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > From: Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PATCHES] Cyrillic to UNICODE conversion > X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 > [iso-2022-jp] (^[$B0*^[(B) > > Thanks for the fixes. I have committed your patches and they should >

[HACKERS] RE: postgres jdbc source code

2001-05-04 Thread Jeroen Habets
G'day mate, Sure, it's fine to mail me...Actually I haven't found the time to get involved in the JDBC driver (it now does what I need it to do, and I'm behind schedule with a project of mine ;-) so your involvement is very welcome! Probably the best thing is to access the CVS but on the postgr

[HACKERS] strange table access error using PHP

2001-05-04 Thread haresh
hi... i'm configuring a web based e-commerce site called pg_market that uses PHP and postgresql and i keep coming up with this error: Warning: PostgreSQL query failed: ERROR: Relation 'order_cntry' does not exist in /home/users/h/haresh/public_html/pgmarket-1.2.0/lib/dblib.inc.php on line 84 Ca

[HACKERS] "PQgetvalue: ERROR!

2001-05-04 Thread Antonio Jose Acuña Jimenez
Hello to all I need help in the following one for the following error "PQGETVALUE: ERROR! tuple number 0 is out of range 0.. -1 Segment violation" This happens when I make a pg_dump namebd > namebd.dump I work posgresql 7.0.3 with mandrake 7.2 A thousand thank you Antonio Acuña

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Karl DeBisschop
Lamar Owen wrote: > > Tom Lane wrote: > > Seems like that stuff should be in CVS somewhere ... if only so someone > > else can pick up the ball if you get run over by a truck :-(. > > My wife appreciates the sentiment :-). As it stands now, better > documentation distributed in the source RPM w

[HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Thomas Swan
mlw wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">Bruce Momjian wrote: Just put a note in the installation docs that the place where the databaseis initialised to should be on a non-Reiser, non-XFS mount...Sure, we can do that now. What do we do when these are the default filesystems for Linux? We can tell them to

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Perhaps src/rpm-tools/ or some such name. > It is platform-specific, which would seem to vote for /contrib. Huh? By that logic, all of src/makefiles/, src/template/, and src/backend/port/, not to mention large chunks of the configure mechanism, belon

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Karl DeBisschop
Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > > Rachit Siamwalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Also i never got a response on who actually packages those linux init > > scripts that appear in the RPM but not on the pgsql cvs tree. (i am also > > curious on why it is different, and how the RPM is built). >

[HACKERS] help!

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Vainio
Hello! I am a Technical Recruiter with MIS Consultants in Toronto Canada and I desperately need to find 2 POSTGRES DBA's for our Toronto client on a 3-4 month renewable contract, open $$$ based on experience. How do I go about finding these guys? Any help is much appreciated, thanks! Jeff Va

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > contrib/rpm-dist? > > Contrib was my first thought also --- but on second thought, the RPM > packaging support is hardly contrib-grade material. For a large > proportion of our users it's a critical part of the distribution. > So, if we are going to h

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 08:02:17AM -0400, mlw wrote: > > The way I understand it is that ReiserFS does not attempt to separate files at > > the block level. Multiple files can live in the same disk block. This is cool > > if you have many small files, but the extra overhead for large files such

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > Sure, we can do that now. What do we do when these are the default file > > systems for Linux? We can tell them to create other types of file > > What is a 'default file system' ? I know that untill now, everybody is using > ext2. But that'

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > Before we get too involved in speculating, shouldn't we actually measure the > performance of 7.1 on XFS and Reiserfs? Since it's easy to disable fsync, > we can test whether that's the problem. I don't think that logging file > systems must in

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
> Sure, we can do that now. What do we do when these are the default file > systems for Linux? We can tell them to create other types of file What is a 'default file system' ? I know that untill now, everybody is using ext2. But that's only because there hasn't been anything comparable. Now we

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Lamar Owen writes: > contrib/rpm-dist? A separate CVS module sounds like a better idea to me. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://funkturm.homeip.net/~peter ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Lamar Owen
Tom Lane wrote: > Contrib was my first thought also --- but on second thought, the RPM > packaging support is hardly contrib-grade material. For a large > proportion of our users it's a critical part of the distribution. > So, if we are going to have it in the CVS tree at all, I'd vote for > putt

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > contrib/rpm-dist? Contrib was my first thought also --- but on second thought, the RPM packaging support is hardly contrib-grade material. For a large proportion of our users it's a critical part of the distribution. So, if we are going to have it in the

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
I got some information from Stephen Tweedie on this - please keep him "Cc:" as he's not on this list Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was talking to a Linux user yesterday, and he said that performance > using

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Lane
Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As to why all these files aren't part of the source tree, well, unless > there was a large cry for it to happen, I don't believe it should. > PostgreSQL is very platform-agnostic -- and I like that. Including the > RPM stuff as part of the Official Tarbal

RE: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Rocco Altier
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Rachit Siamwalla wrote: > 1. `pidof` should be `pidof -s` (2 instances) > 2. restart) should be stop; sleep x; start > ideally, stop should actually wait till postgres fully stops. The sleep is > just a temporary fix. > Perhaps a naive question, but why not use the pg_ctl for

Re: [HACKERS] Packaging 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Lamar Owen
Tom Lane wrote: > Seems like that stuff should be in CVS somewhere ... if only so someone > else can pick up the ball if you get run over by a truck :-(. My wife appreciates the sentiment :-). As it stands now, better documentation distributed in the source RPM would help greatly. Everything ne

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Roland Roberts
> "Bruce" == Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Well, arguably if you're setting up a database server then a >> reasonable DBA should think about such things... Bruce> Yes, but people have trouble installing PostgreSQL. I Bruce> can't imagine walking them through a

Re: [HACKERS] Postgresql.exe 7.1 for M$ OS

2001-05-04 Thread Fabrice Scemama
"V. M." wrote: > > Where i can find a wonderful installer for postgres 7.1 on our windows2000 > advanced servers ? > www.cygwin.com -- "Tout penseur avare de ses pensees est un penseur de Radin." -- Pierre Dac ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Michael Samuel
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 08:02:17AM -0400, mlw wrote: > The way I understand it is that ReiserFS does not attempt to separate files at > the block level. Multiple files can live in the same disk block. This is cool > if you have many small files, but the extra overhead for large files such as > tho

[HACKERS] Postgresql.exe 7.1 for M$ OS

2001-05-04 Thread V. M.
Where i can find a wonderful installer for postgres 7.1 on our windows2000 advanced servers ? We use postgres on linux systems, But... I'm not able to find on the net a binary for Postgres 7.1. I don't want to compile, i want a simple installer. windows machines are 200 Million, if you'll make

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have looked at Reiser, and I don't think it is a file system suited for very > large files, or applications such as postgres. What's the problem with big files? ReiserFS v2 doesn't seem to support it, while v3 seems just fine (of the ondisk format) That said,

[HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Ken Hirsch
Before we get too involved in speculating, shouldn't we actually measure the performance of 7.1 on XFS and Reiserfs? Since it's easy to disable fsync, we can test whether that's the problem. I don't think that logging file systems must intrinsically give bad performance on fsync since they only

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Extrordinarily Poor Performance....

2001-05-04 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
Thus spake Ryan Mahoney > !! I haven't ran VACUUM ANALYZE since last night. Just ran it - > performance has improved significantly. I think I am going to have to run > it hourly during this high traffic time. Postmasters are still utilizing > about 100% of the CPU. Is this normal? I am con

[HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread mlw
Michael Samuel wrote: > > ReiserFS only supports metadata logging. The performance slowdown must be > due to logging things like mtime or atime, because otherwise ReiserFS is a > very high performance FS. (Although, I admittedly haven't used it since it > was early in it's development) The way

[HACKERS] Re: CVSup not working!

2001-05-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
most odd ... its set to start on rebooted, but either it went down on its own, or didn't ... restarted now, let me know if its not working ... On Fri, 4 May 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > > cvsup -L 2 postgres.cvsup > > Parsing supfile "postgres.cvsup" > > Connecting to postgresql.org > > Cann

Re: [HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Michael Samuel
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 11:41:24AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > ext2 has serious problems with corrupt file systems after a crash, so I > understand the need to move to another file system type. I have been > waitin for Linux to get a more modern file system. Unfortunately, the > new ones seem t

[HACKERS] Re: New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread mlw
Here is a radical idea... What is it that is causing Postgres trouble? It is the file system's attempts to maintain some integrity. So I proposed a simple "dbfs" sort of thing which was the most basic sort of file system possible. I'm not sure, but I think we can test this hypothesis on the FAT3