Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-25 Thread Tom Lane
"Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 22:20 +0100, Gregory Stark wrote: >> Also, it might let us set up a standby database in the regression >> suite which would give us some xlog coverage as well which is a >> critical portion of the system the regression suite doesn't

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-25 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 22:20 +0100, Gregory Stark wrote: > Also, it might let us set up a standby database in the regression > suite which would give us some xlog coverage as well which is a > critical portion of the system the regression suite doesn't test at > all. I like that general thought and

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-25 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Gregory Stark wrote: "Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Someday we might like to allow this, but it seems to mean inventing a new GUC context type, which I don't think I want to get into right now. Another option would be adding an option to initdb to override default config set

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-25 Thread Gregory Stark
"Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Someday we might like to allow this, but it seems to mean inventing a > new GUC context type, which I don't think I want to get into right now. Another option would be adding an option to initdb to override default config settings in the postgreql.conf. Th

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-25 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Maybe what we could do is set higher thresholds for the regression >> database with ALTER DATABASE. > That seems to make sense at least as a short-term response. I tried this, and it crashed and burned: ERROR: parameter "autovacuum_analyz

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> While I don't have any very strong objection to putting an ORDER BY >> on these particular queries, I'm worried about how many other regression >> tests will now start showing random failures. We have an awful lot >> of small tables i

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Gregory Stark wrote: What really has to happen is it should run analyze on all tables together in a single transaction and commit all the new stats together

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Gregory Stark
"Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Gregory Stark wrote: >>> What really has to happen is it should run analyze on all tables >>> together in a single transaction and commit all the new stats together. >>> Out-of-sync stats can be worse than out-o

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I don't understand is what you mean with it "obliterating" the > stats for a table. The point seems to be that if there is no pg_statistic data for these tables, we fall back to default estimates of the selectivity of the WHERE clauses, and those p

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote: > While I don't have any very strong objection to putting an ORDER BY > on these particular queries, I'm worried about how many other regression > tests will now start showing random failures. We have an awful lot > of small tables in the tests ... Maybe what we could do is set h

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I saw what I think was the identical failure last night on my own >> machine, but it wasn't repeatable. Evidently the planner is changing to >> a different plan for those queries, but why has this only started >>

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gregory Stark wrote: >> What really has to happen is it should run analyze on all tables >> together in a single transaction and commit all the new stats together. >> Out-of-sync stats can be worse than out-of-date stats. > One problem with that is that

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Gregory Stark wrote: > "Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 > >> any ideas ? > > > > I saw what I think was the identical failure last night on my

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Gregory Stark
"Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 >> any ideas ? > > I saw what I think was the identical failure last night on my own > machine, but it wasn't repeat

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 > any ideas ? I saw what I think was the identical failure last night on my own machine, but it wasn't repeatable. Evidently the planner is changing to a dif

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Gregory Stark
"Stefan Kaltenbrunner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 That's just a faulty test: SELECT t.d1 + i.f1 AS "102" FROM TIMESTAMP_TBL t, INTERVAL_TBL i WHERE t.d1 BETWEEN '1990-01-01' AND '2001-01-01' AND i.f

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Zdenek Kotala wrote: Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 any ideas ? This test is very sensitive to floating point operations behavior. Any gcc, libc update on this machine? nope - in fact nobody was even

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 any ideas ? This test is very sensitive to floating point operations behavior. Any gcc, libc update on this machine? Zdenek ---(e

Re: [HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 clownfish just hit the same problem: http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=clownfish&dt=2007-07-24%2013:08:29 Stefan ---(end of broadcast)

[HACKERS] strange buildfarm failure on lionfish

2007-07-24 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
http://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2007-07-24%2005:30:13 any ideas ? Stefan ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq