On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 08:23 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm in favour of including it by default (at initdb), so it's there
for new users to play with on any fresh install - however, there is
only a point to that if all the documentation examples are based on
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Robert Treat
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We actually have such a database on pgfoundry already
(http://pgfoundry.org/frs/download.php/1719/pagila-0.10.1.zip), which i think
devrim may have packaged into an rpm; it wouldn't hurt to add it to the win32
installer,
Dave Page wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Robert Treat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We actually have such a database on pgfoundry already
(http://pgfoundry.org/frs/download.php/1719/pagila-0.10.1.zip), which i think
devrim may have packaged into an rpm; it wouldn't hurt to add it to the
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm in favour of including it by default (at initdb), so it's there
for new users to play with on any fresh install ...
Could we perhaps punt on the issue of whether to install the
sampledb by default. It could be controlled
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm in favour of including it by default (at initdb), so it's there
for new users to play with on any fresh install - however, there is
only a point to that if all the documentation examples are based on
that database to allow copy-paste-play.
You would
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm in favour of including it by default (at initdb), so it's there
for new users to play with on any fresh install - however, there is
only a point to that if all the documentation examples
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm in favour of including it by default (at initdb), so it's there
for new users to play with on any fresh install - however, there is
only a point to that if all the documentation examples
Tom Lane wrote:
Better to provide the sample database in a
form in which it can be easily dropped/reloaded. I'm envisioning that
there's a source file in $sharedir and we tell people
createdb example
psql -f $sharedir/example.sql example
This
Stephen R. van den Berg wrote:
... it would be orders of magnitude more difficult for
a novice to create the sample database from contrib or anywhere else.
It seems to me that *this* is the more serious problem that
we should fix instead.
If, from the psql command prompt I could type:
psql=#
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi,
Le 25 nov. 08 à 20:29, Ron Mayer a écrit :
psql=# install module sampledb;
Downloading sampledb from pgfoundry...
Installing sampledb
Connecting to sampledb
sampledb=#
This could be part of an installer for PostgreSQL extensions. See
Dimitri Fontaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you dear readers think about the extension vocabulary?
+1 ... we should stay away from package unless we are going to
implement an Oracle-compatible facility. Which I don't particularly
wish to do, but we should leave it open for the future.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:02 AM, A. Kretschmer
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I hope this is the right place to report a bug/issue in the official
documentation...
In
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/interactive/plpgsql-control-structures.html
there is an example for a function,
am Mon, dem 24.11.2008, um 7:24:47 -0500 mailte Merlin Moncure folgendes:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:02 AM, A. Kretschmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope this is the right place to report a bug/issue in the official
documentation...
In
A. Kretschmer wrote:
Okay, it is an argument. On the other side, it was a question today in
the irc-channel (#postgresql) today, someone asked, why his funktion
don't work. I think, such examples should not contain such code. It is
not apparent that this function are not available.
Perhaps
Dave Page wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Alvaro Herrera
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A. Kretschmer wrote:
Okay, it is an argument. On the other side, it was a question today in
the irc-channel (#postgresql) today, someone asked, why his funktion
don't work. I think, such
am Mon, dem 24.11.2008, um 13:47:54 + mailte Dave Page folgendes:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Alvaro Herrera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A. Kretschmer wrote:
Okay, it is an argument. On the other side, it was a question today in
the irc-channel (#postgresql) today, someone asked,
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It might also be useful to create such a database at initdb time so
newbies have something interesting to look at right away.
No, there is no need to clutter every installation in the world with such a
database. You
Dave Page wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It might also be useful to create such a database at initdb time so
newbies have something interesting to look at right away.
No, there is no need to clutter every installation in the world with such a
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Page wrote:
It might also be useful to create such a database at initdb time so
newbies have something interesting to look at right away.
No, there is no need to clutter every installation in the world with
such a database. You could make it an
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Page wrote:
It might also be useful to create such a database at initdb time so
newbies have something interesting to look at right away.
No, there is no need to clutter every
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Page wrote:
That would defeat the point. Not that I have any great feelings either
way, but fwiw, Microsoft and Oracle both create a sample database
iirc.
Last I checked, MS did it optionally only, no?
Yes, but
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, there is no need to clutter every installation in the world with such a
database. You could make it an addon module, or a pgfoundry project.
That would defeat the point.
By that
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, there is no need to clutter every installation in the world with such a
database. You could make it an addon
am Mon, dem 24.11.2008, um 9:02:37 -0500 mailte Tom Lane folgendes:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Page wrote:
It might also be useful to create such a database at initdb time so
newbies have something interesting to look at right away.
No, there is no need to clutter
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Page wrote:
It might also be useful to create such a database at initdb time so
newbies have something interesting to look at right away.
No, there is no need to clutter every
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Alvaro Herrera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A. Kretschmer wrote:
Okay, it is an argument. On the other side, it was a question today in
the irc-channel (#postgresql) today, someone asked, why his funktion
don't work. I think, such examples should not contain such
On Monday 24 November 2008 16:07:49 Dave Page wrote:
That's the point of having a sample database ready to play with. The
docs needn't have clutter, but the user can try out any of the
examples without needing to setup anything first. It's a simple
usability tweak that can help ease the
Clutter is the problem. The cs_log functions in the example do not
serve any purpose that is helpful to describe a for loop. They serve
no real purpose...why not 'raise notice' or just remove them? It
should be clear to distinguish from real and non-real elements.
+1 for RAISE NOTICE.
On Monday 24 November 2008 09:10:29 Dave Page wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dave Page wrote:
That would defeat the point. Not that I have any great feelings either
way, but fwiw, Microsoft and Oracle both create a sample database
iirc.
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