Re: [PATCHES] Postgresql.conf Documentation change

2004-08-19 Thread Bruce Momjian

Patch withdrawn to be revisited in 8.1.

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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> Attached is that patch I talked to you about on hackers.   It changes the 
> description at the top and uncomments most (but not all) of the lines in an 
> effort to make it clear that commenting is not a way to restore the defaults.
> 
> I've tested this on my machine and we end up with the exact same defaults with 
> this patch as without, so no changes to initdb should be required.
> 
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Re: [PATCHES] Postgresql.conf Documentation change

2004-08-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
Bruce,
One issue is that the postgresql.conf file only gets installed as part
of initdb so a shutdown/install/restart will replace the sample file,
but the server file will retain comments until an initdb.  This means
some beta people might go into 8.0.0 final with comments, and some will
not.
I think there's a couple other patches that have the same effect (that is,
initdb is required to take care of them).   I think people using the beta
should expect to re-build several times, anyway -- if they're not, they
shouldn't use beta software.
Actually, I agree with this, but from a different angle ... if testing 
beta, part of that testing is that an initdb does what is expected and 
doesn't generate any errors/problems ... when we go into RC mode, *then* 
things should be safe from an initdb, but beta shouldn't have that 
requirement ...


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Re: [PATCHES] Postgresql.conf Documentation change

2004-08-16 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce,

> One issue is that the postgresql.conf file only gets installed as part
> of initdb so a shutdown/install/restart will replace the sample file,
> but the server file will retain comments until an initdb.  This means
> some beta people might go into 8.0.0 final with comments, and some will
> not.

I think there's a couple other patches that have the same effect (that is, 
initdb is required to take care of them).   I think people using the beta 
should expect to re-build several times, anyway -- if they're not, they 
shouldn't use beta software.

Also, this is basically a "documentation" bug, intended to make 
postgresql.conf easier to understand, so even if some beta tester doesn't 
load it, postgresql.conf still works ..

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Re: [PATCHES] Postgresql.conf Documentation change

2004-08-15 Thread Bruce Momjian

What would people like done with this patch?  A sample section is:

! datestyle = 'iso, mdy'
! #timezone = {enviroment}# actually, defaults to TZ environment setting
! # set at initdb time
! australian_timezones = false
! extra_float_digits = 0  # min -15, max 2
! #client_encoding = {db encoding} # actually, defaults to database encoding
! # common: UNICODE, SQL_ASCII

He has kept comments on the items where we can't determine a default.

One issue is that the postgresql.conf file only gets installed as part
of initdb so a shutdown/install/restart will replace the sample file,
but the server file will retain comments until an initdb.  This means
some beta people might go into 8.0.0 final with comments, and some will
not.

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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> Attached is that patch I talked to you about on hackers.   It changes the 
> description at the top and uncomments most (but not all) of the lines in an 
> effort to make it clear that commenting is not a way to restore the defaults.
> 
> I've tested this on my machine and we end up with the exact same defaults with 
> this patch as without, so no changes to initdb should be required.
> 
> -- 
> -Josh Berkus
> 
> __AGLIO DATABASE SOLUTIONS___
> Josh Berkus
> Enterprise vertical business[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  and data analysis solutions(415) 752-2500
>   and database optimization   fax 752-2387
>   utilizing Open Source technology  San Francisco

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