Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-28 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Josh Berkus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 April 2005 04:09 To: Dave Page Cc: Joshua D. Drake; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision Dave, folks, Err, yes. But that's not quite the same as core telling us

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread mmiranda
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Joel FradkinSent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:02 AMTo: PostgreSQL PerformSubject: [PERFORM] Final decision I spent a great deal of time over the past week looking seriously at

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Joel Fradkin
Sorry I am using Redhat AS4 and postgres 8.0.2 Joel You didnt tell us what OS are you using, windows? If you want good performance you must install unix on that machine, ---

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Rod Taylor
I did have a question if any folks are using two servers one for reporting and one for data entry what system should be the beefier? Yeah. We started putting up slaves for reporting purposes and application specific areas using Slony replicating partial data sets to various locations -- some

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Josh Berkus
Joel, So I am planning on sticking with postgres fro our production database (going live this weekend). Glad to have you. I did not find any resolutions to my issues with Commandprompt.com (we only worked together 2.5 hours). BTW, your performance troubleshooting will continue to be

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Berkus Sent: 27 April 2005 17:14 To: Joel Fradkin Cc: PostgreSQL Perform Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision Actually, I think the problem may be ODBC. Our ODBC driver

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Josh Berkus
Dave, Actually, I think the problem may be ODBC. Our ODBC driver is not the best and is currently being re-built from scratch. It is? No-one told the developers... Regards, Dave [and yes, I know Joshua said Command Prompt are rewriting /their/ driver] OK. Well, let's put it this

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread John A Meinel
Joel Fradkin wrote: I spent a great deal of time over the past week looking seriously at Postgres and MYSQL. Objectively I am not seeing that much of an improvement in speed with MYSQL, and we have a huge investment in postgrs. So I am planning on sticking with postgres fro our production database

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Joel Fradkin
BTW, your performance troubleshooting will continue to be hampered if you can't share actual queries and data structure. I strongly suggest that you make a confidentiality contract with a support provider so that you can give them detailed (rather than general) problem reports. I am glad to

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Joel Fradkin
Just realize, you probably *don't* want to set that in postgresql.conf. You just want to issue an SET enable_seqscan TO off before issuing one of the queries that are mis-planned. I believe all the tested queries (90 some odd views) saw an improvement. I will however take the time to verify this

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Steve Poe
Joshua, This article was in July 2002, so is there update to this information? When will a new ODBC driver be available for testing? Is there a release of the ODBC driver with better performance than 7.0.3.0200 for a 7.4.x database? Steve Poe We have mentioned it on the list.

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread John A Meinel
Joel Fradkin wrote: ... I am guessing our app is like 75% data entry and 25% reporting, but the reporting is taking the toll SQL wise. This was from my insert test with 15 users. Test type: Dynamic Simultaneous browser connections: 15 Warm up time (secs): 0 Test duration: 00:00:03:13 Test

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46 To: Dave Page Cc: Josh Berkus; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision It is? No-one told the developers... We have mentioned it on the list. Err

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Josh Berkus
Dave, folks, Err, yes. But that's not quite the same as core telling us the current driver is being replaced. Sorry, I spoke off the cuff.I also was unaware that work on the current driver had renewed. Us Core people are not omnicient, believe it or don't. Mind you, having 2 different

ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: [PERFORM] Final decision)

2005-04-27 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:09:27PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a problem for another list ... Only two? I thought another commercial entity was also working on their own ODBC driver, so there may be three of them. --

Re: ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: [PERFORM] Final decision)

2005-04-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a problem for another list ... Only two? I thought another commercial entity was also working on their own ODBC driver, so there may be three of them. Well I only know of one company actually working on ODBC actively

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46 To: Dave Page Cc: Josh Berkus; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision It is? No-one told the developers... We have mentioned it on the list

Re: ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: [PERFORM] Final decision)

2005-04-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a problem for another list ... Only two? I thought another commercial entity was also working on their own ODBC driver, so there may be three of them. Well I only know of one

Re: [PERFORM] Final decision

2005-04-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46 To: Dave Page Cc: Josh Berkus; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision It is? No-one told