Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Chris Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Jeffrey W. Baker") writes: > I haven't tried this product, but the microbenchmarks seem truly > slow. I think you would get a similar benefit by simply sticking a > 1GB or 2GB DIMM -- battery-backed, of course -- in your RAID > controller. Well, the microbenchmarks were pretty

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Richard_D_Levine
> you'd be much better served by > putting a big NVRAM cache in front of a fast disk array I agree with the point below, but I think price was the issue of the original discussion. That said, it seems that a single high speed spindle would give this a run for its money in both price and performan

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 11:23:23AM -0700, Luke Lonergan wrote: Yup - interesting and very niche product - it seems like it's only obvious application is for the Postgresql WAL problem :-) On the contrary--it's not obvious that it is an ideal fit for a WAL. A ram disk like this is optimized for

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread John A Meinel
Alex Turner wrote: Also seems pretty silly to put it on a regular SATA connection, when all that can manage is 150MB/sec. If you made it connection directly to 66/64-bit PCI then it could actualy _use_ the speed of the RAM, not to mention PCI-X. Alex Turner NetEconomist Well, the whole point

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Alex Turner
Please see: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145309 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145416 The price of Reg ECC is not significantly higher than regular ram at this point. Plus if you go with super fast 2-2-2-6 then it's actualy more than good o

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Alex Turner
Also seems pretty silly to put it on a regular SATA connection, when all that can manage is 150MB/sec. If you made it connection directly to 66/64-bit PCI then it could actualy _use_ the speed of the RAM, not to mention PCI-X. Alex Turner NetEconomist On 7/26/05, John A Meinel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread John A Meinel
Luke Lonergan wrote: Yup - interesting and very niche product - it seems like it's only obvious application is for the Postgresql WAL problem :-) Well, you could do it for any journaled system (XFS, JFS, ext3, reiserfs). But yes, it seems specifically designed for a battery backed journal. Th

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Luke Lonergan
Yup - interesting and very niche product - it seems like it's only obvious application is for the Postgresql WAL problem :-) The real differentiator is the battery backup part. Otherwise, the filesystem caching is more effective, so put the RAM on the motherboard. - Luke -

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread PFC
I'm a little leary as it is definitely a version 1.0 product (it is still using an FPGA as the controller, so they were obviously pushing to get the card into production). Not necessarily. FPGA's have become a sensible choice now. My RME studio soundcard uses a big FPGA. The performance

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 26, 2005, at 12:34 PM, John A Meinel wrote: Basically, it is a PCI card, which takes standard DDR RAM, and has a SATA port on it, so that to the system, it looks like a normal SATA drive. The card costs about $100-150, and you fill it with your own ram, so for a 4GB (max size) dis

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 11:34 -0500, John A Meinel wrote: > I saw a review of a relatively inexpensive RAM disk over at > anandtech.com, the Gigabyte i-RAM > http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2480 > > Basically, it is a PCI card, which takes standard DDR RAM, and has a > SATA port on

Re: [PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread Chris Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John A Meinel) writes: > I saw a review of a relatively inexpensive RAM disk over at > anandtech.com, the Gigabyte i-RAM > http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2480 And the review shows that it's not *all* that valuable for many of the cases they looked at. > Basical

[PERFORM] Cheap RAM disk?

2005-07-26 Thread John A Meinel
I saw a review of a relatively inexpensive RAM disk over at anandtech.com, the Gigabyte i-RAM http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2480 Basically, it is a PCI card, which takes standard DDR RAM, and has a SATA port on it, so that to the system, it looks like a normal SATA drive. Th