Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-20 Thread Dirk Lutzebaeck
Could this be related to the O(1) scheduler backpatches from 2.6 to 2.4 
kernel on newer 2.4er distros (RedHat, SuSE)?

Tom Lane wrote:

Joe Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

Improve spinlock code for recent x86 processors: insert a PAUSE
instruction in the s_lock() wait loop, and use test before test-and-set
in TAS() macro to avoid unnecessary bus traffic.  Patch from Manfred
Spraul, reworked a bit by Tom.
 

 

I thought this had been committed to the 7.4 stable branch as well, but 
it appears not.
   

I am currently chasing what seems to be the same issue: massive context
swapping on a dual Xeon system.  I tried back-patching the above-mentioned
patch ... it helps a little but by no means solves the problem ...
			regards, tom lane

 



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Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-20 Thread Dave Cramer
Don't think so, mine is a vanilla kernel from kernel.org

Dave
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 16:03, Dirk Lutzebaeck wrote:
 Could this be related to the O(1) scheduler backpatches from 2.6 to 2.4 
 kernel on newer 2.4er distros (RedHat, SuSE)?
 
 
 Tom Lane wrote:
 
 Joe Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
 
 Improve spinlock code for recent x86 processors: insert a PAUSE
 instruction in the s_lock() wait loop, and use test before test-and-set
 in TAS() macro to avoid unnecessary bus traffic.  Patch from Manfred
 Spraul, reworked a bit by Tom.
   
 
 
   
 
 I thought this had been committed to the 7.4 stable branch as well, but 
 it appears not.
 
 
 
 I am currently chasing what seems to be the same issue: massive context
 swapping on a dual Xeon system.  I tried back-patching the above-mentioned
 patch ... it helps a little but by no means solves the problem ...
 
  regards, tom lane
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-18 Thread Dave Cramer
Isn't this a linux kernel issue ?

My understanding is that the scheduler doesn't know that 2 of the CPU's
are actually the same underlying hardware and sometimes two contexts end
up fighting for the same underlying chip?

--dc--

On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 16:37, Josh Berkus wrote:
 Folks,
 
  I am currently chasing what seems to be the same issue: massive context
  swapping on a dual Xeon system.  I tried back-patching the above-mentioned
  patch ... it helps a little but by no means solves the problem ...
 
 BTW, I'm currently pursuing the possibility that this has something to do with 
 the ServerWorks chipset on those motherboards.   If anyone knows a high-end 
 hardware+linux kernel geek I can corner, I'd appreciate it.
 
 Maybe I should contact OSDL ...
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519 939 0336
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Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-15 Thread Dirk Lutzebäck
Joe, do you know where I should look in the 7.4.2 code to find this out?

Dirk

Joe Conway wrote:

Dirk Lutzebäck wrote:

postgresql 7.4.1

a new Dual Xeon MP

too much context switches (way more than 100.000) on higher load 
(meaning system load  2).


I believe this was fixed in 7.4.2, although I can't seem to find it in 
the release notes.

Joe




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Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-15 Thread Joe Conway
Dirk Lutzebäck wrote:
Joe, do you know where I should look in the 7.4.2 code to find this out?
I think I was wrong. I just looked in CVS and found the commit I was 
thinking about:

http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql-server/src/backend/storage/lmgr/s_lock.c.diff?r1=1.22r2=1.23
http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql-server/src/include/storage/s_lock.h.diff?r1=1.123r2=1.124
=
Revision 1.23 / (download) - [select for diffs] , Sat Dec 27 20:58:58 
2003 UTC (3 months, 2 weeks ago) by tgl
Changes since 1.22: +5 -1 lines
Diff to previous 1.22

Improve spinlock code for recent x86 processors: insert a PAUSE
instruction in the s_lock() wait loop, and use test before test-and-set
in TAS() macro to avoid unnecessary bus traffic.  Patch from Manfred
Spraul, reworked a bit by Tom.
=
I thought this had been committed to the 7.4 stable branch as well, but 
it appears not.

Joe

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Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-15 Thread Tom Lane
Joe Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Improve spinlock code for recent x86 processors: insert a PAUSE
 instruction in the s_lock() wait loop, and use test before test-and-set
 in TAS() macro to avoid unnecessary bus traffic.  Patch from Manfred
 Spraul, reworked a bit by Tom.

 I thought this had been committed to the 7.4 stable branch as well, but 
 it appears not.

I am currently chasing what seems to be the same issue: massive context
swapping on a dual Xeon system.  I tried back-patching the above-mentioned
patch ... it helps a little but by no means solves the problem ...

regards, tom lane

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Re: [PERFORM] Toooo many context switches (maybe SLES8?)

2004-04-15 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks,

 I am currently chasing what seems to be the same issue: massive context
 swapping on a dual Xeon system.  I tried back-patching the above-mentioned
 patch ... it helps a little but by no means solves the problem ...

BTW, I'm currently pursuing the possibility that this has something to do with 
the ServerWorks chipset on those motherboards.   If anyone knows a high-end 
hardware+linux kernel geek I can corner, I'd appreciate it.

Maybe I should contact OSDL ...

-- 
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Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

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