On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo
as backend.
It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different
backend(s), like opengl etc.
Excellent. I'm mainly using Linux.
Marcus,
The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ?
Is there another place to see the same information ?
Sven
On 23 Oct 2013, at 08:19, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
30516
-
11694 Trait methods wrong after recompiling the image
On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Marcus,
The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ?
Is there another place to see the same information ?
Yes, the commit mail from Git.
Normally I don't send this mail anymore.
On
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
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Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
Branch: refs/tags/30516
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
On 23 Oct 2013, at 08:25, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Marcus,
The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ?
Is there another place to see the same information ?
Yes,
On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 23 Oct 2013, at 08:25, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Marcus,
The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is
On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:41 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
As Doru mentioned, marketing of Pharo should be improved to get more traction.
Now, on http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
a serious bunch of links are not working, point to projects that are
abandoning Smalltalk for
hi sven
I would like to fetch a file stored on github
ZnEasy client
url:
'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics.st';
get;
response
Else I tried to read zodiac code but I missed some examples.
I tried to read
Hi Stéphane,
It is actually even simpler, you can use either:
ZnEasy get:
'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics.st'.
or:
ZnClient new
get:
'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics.st'.
They return slightly
On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org.
This is what should be written in the readme.
BTW have you tried that you actually have access to the machine?
Because I remember that it didn't work for you nor
Pharo launcher [1] has the ability to download and run images. It really
helps avoiding chaos on the hard disk and I can only recommend to others
to give it a try.
One nice side effect is that one can download actual images depending
on image number (update version). As we have seen this is also
On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:54, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
Pharo launcher [1] has the ability to download and run images. It really
helps avoiding chaos on the hard disk and I can only recommend to others
to give it a try.
One nice side effect is that one can download actual images
On 2013-10-23, at 10:54, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
IMHO it would also be helpful if we would have a single Summary page
on Pharo.org or directly under updates.pharo.org with a complete list
of all the updates:
Pharo 3.0
- 30516
- 30515
- ...
Pharo 2.0
Sure, please do.
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Marcus wrote:
do it. The problem is that not everything that would be nice can be done just
because the day
has just 24 hours.
No need to say this. We know that each others plate if full - but we all try to
move Pharo forward.
We all did in the past and hopefully will be able to continue to do
On 2013-10-23, at 12:17, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
Marcus wrote:
do it. The problem is that not everything that would be nice can be done
just because the day
has just 24 hours.
No need to say this. We know that each others plate if full - but we all try
to move Pharo
because it's duplicate information.
Makes sense
I don't understand, we send github mails since a while and they include all
the information
you need, diffs + commit log.
Yes - really a step forward!
smalltalkhub has never update it's search functionality, so yes you are lost.
Again, a
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Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
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On 23 October 2013 08:12, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo
as backend.
It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different
where?
I want to see it and get brainwashed and start fixing bugs :)
Stef
On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
that would be cool ;)
Ben
On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
One would almost start fixing
On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll remove the script again, this is silly duplication that is going to be
outdated very quickly. It points already to the jenkins job, this is where
everything happens.
so I will readd it.
Camillo can you respect
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org.
This is what should be written in the readme.
BTW have you tried that you actually have
On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote:
I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to
support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy development
and that I
thanks
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Hi Stéphane,
It is actually even simpler, you can use either:
ZnEasy get:
'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics.st'.
or:
ZnClient new
get:
off-topic:
Do you experience issue with Gmail IMAP accounts too ?
Cause I can not properly delete messages :(
Ben
On 23 Oct 2013, at 13:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Hi,
This morning I upgraded my MacBook Air to Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. The good
new is that my trusty VM
The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ?
Is there another place to see the same information ?
Yes, the commit mail from Git.
Normally I don't send this mail anymore.
OK, I guess it is all a lot of work, but they were a very useful summary.
the
sven
Soon you will be able to produce PharoTopics taking this git file as input :)
ZnClient new
get:
'https://raw.github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/master/Topics.st'.
Stef
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Hi Stéphane,
It is
On 23 Oct 2013, at 13:57, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
off-topic:
Do you experience issue with Gmail IMAP accounts too ?
Cause I can not properly delete messages :(
Yes, me too.
Marcus
(i am not fully understood what happens there, but here some thought which
might be useful).
About that popup:
- if its a warning, then you can see it in interactive mode.
in headless mode all warnings are ignored and program just continues to run.
This is equivalent as if user pressed
Am 23.10.2013 um 13:56 schrieb Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com:
off-topic:
Do you experience issue with Gmail IMAP accounts too ?
Cause I can not properly delete messages :(
Because you cannot delete emails at all in gmail. You can remove tags and add
tags but removing IMHO
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
Mouse i much more precise than fingers. I doubt it going to be replaced. I
think it will stay.
When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks because that’s what
you needed on the farms. But cars eventually became
On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
(i am not fully understood what happens there, but here some thought which
might be useful).
thanks
this is simple.
Merging a dirty package always ask the user if it wants to proceed. Now I catch
the exception and proceed.
On 23 Oct 2013, at 14:22, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, i was also exploring, why even if i do not touch image i got like 3-5%
CPU load.
What i found that it is in VM. Because i basicaly removed everything in image,
and just left idle process, and still had such loads.
The thing is that google does not implement a regular “IMAP” protocol :S
But what is weird, is that it works with new google accounts, and not with old
ones :S
Ben
On 23 Oct 2013, at 14:23, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote:
Am 23.10.2013 um 13:56 schrieb Benjamin
migrated flotr rom SqueakSource to Smalltalkhub/PharoExtras
So let me know if it works.
Stef
Ok tx. I'll have a look. I'm using it for a fun project so most of the time
I get to work on it during the weekends.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
wrote:
migrated flotr rom SqueakSource to Smalltalkhub/PharoExtras
So let me know if it works.
Hello,
This announcement is for those who develop in latest Pharo 3 and are
curious about a more advanced way of recording code changes than the
current .changes mechanism.
In particular, it should be useful when your image crashes and you want to
recover lost changes. Some of you may have seen
Branch: refs/tags/30518
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Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 302f637c373afaccdd766b66a664e248469e3cd8
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Date:
On 2013-10-23, at 15:53, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 13:47, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll remove the script again, this is silly duplication that is going to be
On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:52 , Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens.
As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo library for it,
On 2013-10-23, at 13:48, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org.
This is what
It seams data are written in a .ombu file
will be written in .ombu files
So I guess the work remain the same here :)
Ben
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:10, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Martin,
Epicea looks really cool. I can't wait to have it in Pharo 3.0.
Some questions
I am confused, I was under the impression that these would already have been
integrated (I was waiting for the summary mails):
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4255/Deprecate-MIMEType
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11964/Update-Zinc-Resource-Meta-Core
The slice was written against #30512
On 23 oct. 2013, at 15:58, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 15:53, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 13:47, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
I am confused, I was under the impression that these would already have been
integrated (I was waiting for the summary mails):
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4255/Deprecate-MIMEType
did you push ? I do not see any change :(
Ben
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:24, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 oct. 2013, at 15:58, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 15:53, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 13:47,
On 2013-10-23, at 13:47, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll remove the script again, this is silly duplication that is going to be
outdated very quickly. It points already to the jenkins job, this
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:28, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
I am confused, I was under the impression that these would already have been
integrated (I was waiting for the summary mails):
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.comwrote:
Hey Martin,
Epicea looks really cool. I can't wait to have it in Pharo 3.0.
:p
thanks! a bit early to say but why not in the future.
Some questions however:
- Can we use Epicea to recover lost changes ? I mean
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:38, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:28, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
I am confused, I was under the impression that these would already have
Branch: refs/tags/30519
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 235af8efaae33958124b33aaf4501609a52d3978
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/235af8efaae33958124b33aaf4501609a52d3978
Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
On 2013-10-23, at 16:44, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 oct. 2013, at 16:29, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
did you push ?
Yes
I do not see any change :(
I just enclosed the script.
That's how I interpreted the request for
Yes, this mail can replace the manual one: it contains the summary and all
changes explicitly, very nice !
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:53, GitHub nore...@github.com wrote:
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 235af8efaae33958124b33aaf4501609a52d3978
On 23 oct. 2013, at 16:29, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
did you push ?
Yes
I do not see any change :(
I just enclosed the script.
That's how I interpreted the request for formatting.
Ben
On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:24, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
The only downside is that the summary is not on top, which is a bit strange,
given
that on the command line you always see the changed paths at the bottom when
writing
the commit message.
On 2013-10-23, at 17:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Yes, this mail can replace the manual
On 2013-10-23, at 16:06, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 13:48, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
For
philippeback wrote
Would be great to have a logout, in order to give images to other people
without leaving credentials around.
Done, added to world menu under the individual repo login options
The way the logins work is that a file named .mcconfig is expected in the
general preferences folder
I am still struggling with the VM acceptance test. Currently we're loading
Seaside and Moose, two very big projects which hopefully stress many parts of
the VM.
The problem is, that these two projects evolve by themselves, adding another
axis of freedom which I would like to avoid.
So is there
This is really cool, is that in the image already ?
What about plain HTTP repos ?
On 23 Oct 2013, at 20:04, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
philippeback wrote
Would be great to have a logout, in order to give images to other people
without leaving credentials around.
Done,
Everybody does a lot of work for Pharo, visible and invisible.
We are complementary and we need each other - so we have to work together.
On 23 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at 16:06, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-10-23, at
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
what's the minimum amount of code necessary to bootstrap into real
smalltalk?
I simplified even further, and use #startUp: to handle the actual
preferences. The only thing the startup.st actually does is load the code
via Metacello on the first run:
StartupLoader default
On 23 October 2013 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote:
On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote:
I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to
support that
I am sold. I happen top have an Excel sheet with days until I am quite old.
I did that sheet when I was about 30.
43 now :-)
Time flies indeed.
Phil
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote:
philippeback wrote
I am looking at this configuration and
I think the future concerning user interaction is thought reading devices. They
are already at consumer level being able to perform basic brain wave scans for
simple interactions even providing open source SDKs and relatively low cost at
300 euros taking into consideration that they are cutting
Especially when nobody is running wild and screaming. If this would be case you
would hear me from ghent ;D .
I'm quite good at that but I decided that I'm in positive energy mode since a
long time and that pushy people do not touch me anymore.
I'm like Luffy , elastic :)
Stef
Everybody
Igor it also means that we should find a way to get nativeboost wroking on
iPad (probably by generating a DLL from NB).
aha.. and digitally sign it before you can use it.. and then ask nicely Apple
to approve it :)
Yes :)
Well implementing ARM-FFI is largely orthogonal to Athens.
Yes, i am happily using it for Cairo and it lets me customize /rethink things
as they go
without need to touch VM. Which means much faster development process and
feedback etc.
But since Athens API is settled down more or
On 23 October 2013 23:13, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote:
Well implementing ARM-FFI is largely orthogonal to Athens.
Yes, i am happily using it for Cairo and it lets me customize /rethink
things as they go
without need to touch VM. Which means much faster development
On 23 October 2013 20:21, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
This is really cool, is that in the image already ?
What about plain HTTP repos ?
indeed, what could be simpler than:
Compiler evaluate: (ZnEasy get: 'http://my.url.with.script.st')
and you can, of course place it on
Clment Bera wrote:
Hello,
I'm interested.
Please send me the image in private mail not to overload the mailing list
with large attachment.
Alternatively, give me a place where I can download it.
http://files.openinworld.com/Pharo/PharoLauncher-Unwind-Error.zip
The steps to
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
I will
- commit an update where the code moves the temps to the method
- then fix the compiler next week
Are there issues for these? I want to track the status because the TWM port
to 3.0 is on hold until it's fixed...
-
Cheers,
Sean
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