Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> so did it work? > Is there something that we should do? I had no problem, but as Henrik and Peter said, the problem is likely to be more complex Alexandre > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > Okay, trying… > > Alexandre > > > > On

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Wow! Wonderful experience report! Alexandre > On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 08:12:29AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: >> Can yo point to where you added you workaround? > > The fix is a single line, because I hate myself. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Thanks Peter for your email. Alexandre > On Dec 18, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > I certainly understand your frustration, I felt it too on Windows to the > point where I stopped using Pharo for couple of weeks out of rage, and then > spend in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Henrik Nergaard
Using floats should not be a problem as BitBlt will round these to integers: | canvas image | canvas := FormCanvas extent: 100.1@100.2. canvas fillColor: Color gray. image := Smalltalk ui icons iconNamed: #error. canvas image: image at: 2.5@3.9 sourceRect: (1.2@5.3 extent: 42.1@43.4) rule: 34.

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Fraction and parentheses

2016-12-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 19 Dec 2016, at 22:00, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > Hi serge > > the printing should be normal because like that you are ready to type > 1/3 + 2/3 and get 1. No, not at all: 1/3 + 2/3 "(7/9)" These are all just binary messages evaluated left to right, like

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
so did it work? Is there something that we should do? On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Okay, trying… > > Alexandre > > > > On Dec 16, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Aliaksei Syrel > wrote: > > > > According to crash.dmp

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Fraction and parentheses

2016-12-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi serge the printing should be normal because like that you are ready to type 1/3 + 2/3 and get 1. Now I do not get why you get ((1/2)) thanks for reporting it. Stef On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Serge Stinckwich < serge.stinckw...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have one question about Fraction. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi peter I can understand your frustration. I would be really like to see what I can do to help. But I do not know. Except showing your mail to the vm guys. Thanks for having send it! Stef On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 458c6c: 60330

2016-12-19 Thread Max Leske
VM looks ok BTW. Really seems to be the update itself. > On 19 Dec 2016, at 21:00, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hmm.. I think I will revert this update. > >> On 19 Dec 2016, at 16:36, Max Leske wrote: >> >> Confirmed on OS X 10.12.3 >> >>> On 19 Dec

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 458c6c: 60330

2016-12-19 Thread Marcus Denker
Hmm.. I think I will revert this update. > On 19 Dec 2016, at 16:36, Max Leske wrote: > > Confirmed on OS X 10.12.3 > >> On 19 Dec 2016, at 19:26, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> The image seems to come up with a black screen… something went wrong. >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 458c6c: 60330

2016-12-19 Thread Max Leske
Confirmed on OS X 10.12.3 > On 19 Dec 2016, at 19:26, Marcus Denker wrote: > > The image seems to come up with a black screen… something went wrong. > > Can someone else check? > >> On 19 Dec 2016, at 14:21, GitHub wrote: >> >> Branch:

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Graham McLeod
+1 Graham Torsten Bergmann wrote: Hi Tudor, we all already had exchanged on this topic in discussions on this list back a year ago or even before and as we have seen there were different arguments and different point of views. Actions to make Pharo more known are always appreciated and as

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 458c6c: 60330

2016-12-19 Thread Marcus Denker
The image seems to come up with a black screen… something went wrong. Can someone else check? > On 19 Dec 2016, at 14:21, GitHub wrote: > > Branch: refs/heads/6.0 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core > Commit: 458c6cef0678ceeedd886a7e8c952aa72ceddca0 >

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
personally I like what I see, I don't have any objection. My personal opinion on this is that Pharo needs a proper documentation system which what examples are part of like Java or Python doc strings. But then a doc strings system is far more complex than the GTExample and a lot more work. In the

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, > On Dec 19, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >> >> 2016-12-19 8:46 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would prefer if this thread does not

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 458c6c: 60330

2016-12-19 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 458c6cef0678ceeedd886a7e8c952aa72ceddca0 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/458c6cef0678ceeedd886a7e8c952aa72ceddca0 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2016-12-19 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/60330 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > 2016-12-19 8:46 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : >> >> Hi, >> >> I would prefer if this thread does not transform in a terminology debate >> too much. >> > > @Doru, but you asked "What do you think"

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] c82973: 60329

2016-12-19 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: c829737640c1e624505302e7878a4804d5bdcd7c https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/c829737640c1e624505302e7878a4804d5bdcd7c Author: Jenkins Build Server Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2016-12-19 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/60329 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] TechTalks Jan and Feb

2016-12-19 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We have fixed the next two tech talks: - 24 Jan 2017. Topic "Bloc/Brick” https://association.pharo.org/event-2405619 - 28 Feb 2017. Topic: “Refelectivity" https://association.pharo.org/event-2407465 We added these as “Events” to the association website. People registered

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Thanks for the message. There are several points under discussion. I am not arguing now for introduction of GTExamples in the Pharo distribution. This is a discussion for the future. But, I would like to distinguish between the current implementation and the goal. I believe

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: Too frequent crashes :-(

2016-12-19 Thread Peter Uhnak
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 08:12:29AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: > Can yo point to where you added you workaround? The fix is a single line, because I hate myself. interpreterProxy failed ifTrue:[^nil]. https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/commit/9bf66cf656b176d988e1b0ba74fc37da467e6192 To give

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Thanks for reacting. Knowing that you were a strong debate counterpart, I would be very happy to work with you on this topic :). As Nicolai noticed, GTExamples is significantly more than sample instances. For example, right now, it is the basis for building examples that are also tests.

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi all In nautilus in Pharo 60 when you use you can get an inspector on the object returned by the method Example Die class >> d6 ^ self faces: 6 I started to use this pragma in all my libraries and I chose it to avoid conflict with and others. I can change another time to make

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Tudor, we all already had exchanged on this topic in discussions on this list back a year ago or even before and as we have seen there were different arguments and different point of views. Actions to make Pharo more known are always appreciated and as you made more progress on the

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Phil,   it is already (since a long time) possible to mark a method with including the icon clickable thing.  But now (and already a year ago) Tudor wants to change semantics - as such marked methods always have to return a single sample instance of the class instead of being what they

[Pharo-dev] [MoreVMs'17] Call for Contributions: 1st Workshop on Modern Language Runtimes, Ecosystems, and VMs at 2017

2016-12-19 Thread Stefan Marr
Call for Papers: MoreVMs’17 1st Workshop on Modern Language Runtimes, Ecosystems, and VMs Co-located with 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] a request to change the meaning of pragma

2016-12-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Ok, thx. Will try. I am tired of examples in comments, selecting stuff etc when it is possible to have a click on an icon. Thx for this thing. Phil On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > We did not try, but it should not be a problem, except for the fact

[Pharo-dev] About Fraction and parentheses

2016-12-19 Thread Serge Stinckwich
I have one question about Fraction. When I print a fraction like 1/2 in the Playground I obtain (1/2) and when I inspect I obtain ((1/2)). Why do we need all these parentheses ? I didn't try with a current Pharo 6.0 image, because my bandwidth is quite limited right now (Vietnam). -- Serge