Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Bernhard Pieber
No, this is not what I meant. Although it might be a useful variant once there is go back and go forward like in web browsers. For now ClySystemBrowser beDefaultBrowser does what I want. Thanks! Cheers, Bernhard > Am 09.01.2017 um 15:10 schrieb Denis Kudriashov : > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2017-01-09 13:02 GMT+01:00 Bernhard Pieber : > I just played a bit with Calypso. I love the possibility to easily show > the inherited methods. I would love to stay in a Calypso browser when I use > Cmd-b to browse classes referenced in method source. Maybe I misunderstood

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Bernhard 2017-01-09 13:02 GMT+01:00 Bernhard Pieber : > Hi Denis, > > I just played a bit with Calypso. I love the possibility to easily show > the inherited methods. I would love to stay in a Calypso browser when I use > Cmd-b to browse classes referenced in method

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Bernhard Pieber
Hi Denis, I just played a bit with Calypso. I love the possibility to easily show the inherited methods. I would love to stay in a Calypso browser when I use Cmd-b to browse classes referenced in method source. Thanks for your contribution! Cheers, Bernhard > Am 27.12.2016 um 17:12 schrieb

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-04 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2017-01-04 8:32 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > Also... > 8. Select ASTCacheReset > 9. Tick "inherited methods" > 10. Select #addIfNotPresent:ifPresentDo: without expanding any method > groups > ==> "inherited methods" and "extensions" are highlighted, which is okay > > but now... >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-12-31 16:57 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : >> >> Maybe it is the checkbox doubling the size of the whitespace (??) such >> that it would be better placed to the right (??), or maybe I just need >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-03 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-31 16:57 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > Maybe it is the checkbox doubling the size of the whitespace (??) such > that it would be better placed to the right (??), or maybe I just need > to adapt. > In last version (dev) I push it to the right. Also I moved extensions group

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-02 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
> On 30 Dec 2016, at 19:18, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > Hi Yuriy > > 2016-12-30 8:29 GMT+01:00 Yuriy Tymchuk >: > Wow, Denis, this is super cool! I really like that you have these “New > method” tabs because I find it

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-31 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-30 17:21 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis : > On a clean pharo 6 image file (alpha+vmLatest) Calypso installs fine but > on my own built image it seems to conflict with Pillar triggering a syntax > error Does it mean that you first load Calypso then open it first time

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-31 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-31 16:57 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > > Also in Calypso protocol is not exists anymore. > > Okay. So btw will you have a new name for the third pane of the > browser to use in discussions? I call this pane method groups view (because it shows method groups)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-31 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-12-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : >> >> > So you think existence of "Class variables" is also confusing because it >> > looks like parent group for instance variables? >> >> Yes its

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-31 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 6:05 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > >> okay. I can see how that works. But I can't work out the display logic. >> Selecting... Collections-Streams > ReadWriteStream > inherited methods >> asBinaryOrTextStream(PositionableStream) is shown normal >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-30 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > > So you think existence of "Class variables" is also confusing because it > > looks like parent group for instance variables? > > Yes its confusing. I didn't even notice that "Class variables" could > be expanded to show >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-30 Thread Denis Kudriashov
> okay. I can see how that works. But I can't work out the display logic. > Selecting... Collections-Streams > ReadWriteStream > inherited methods > asBinaryOrTextStream(PositionableStream) is shown normal > asZLibReadStream(PositionableStream) is shown grey > Can you explain? It's easy.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-30 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Yuriy 2016-12-30 8:29 GMT+01:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > Wow, Denis, this is super cool! I really like that you have these “New > method” tabs because I find it super confusing that you have to either > select no methods or change the existing method to create a new one. > > I

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-12-28 18:12 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : >> >> * multiple code pane tabs - cool >> * multi-selection is cool (but I need to trial how it works out in >> practice) >> * automatic selection of

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-29 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Wow, Denis, this is super cool! I really like that you have these “New method” tabs because I find it super confusing that you have to either select no methods or change the existing method to create a new one. I would be really happy on any feedback about the Renraku (critiques model)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Mariano all RB and other will be present. On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow, it already have features I have wished since long time (like the view > or inherited / filtered methods and multi selection everywhere). > > About RB, how much

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-28 18:12 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > > I like this initiative, especially for the local browser and the > remote browser using the same code base. > * overall minimizing code > * using/testing the same mechanisms > * facilitate seamless experience between local and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-28 18:12 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > * multiple code pane tabs - cool > * multi-selection is cool (but I need to trial how it works out in > practice) > * automatic selection of items similar to last selection - I've been > meaning to ask this for Nautilus for a while. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called > Calypso. It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable > for remote scenario. But as result it leads to more

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-28 15:21 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > Nice work! > > I particularly like the focus on low traffic between the model and the UI. > I think there is a good deal of things to learn from the experience of > building remote tools. > Calypso supposed to work good in remote

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Denix, Nice work! I particularly like the focus on low traffic between the model and the UI. I think there is a good deal of things to learn from the experience of building remote tools. Cheers, Doru > On Dec 27, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > Hi >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-28 13:55 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > Can we add a feature to compare /diff to random methods? Right now > nautilus allows you that but it must be from the same class Yes. There is already issue for this: https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/issues/11.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-28 13:55 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > Wow, it already have features I have wished since long time (like the view > or inherited / filtered methods and multi selection everywhere). > > About RB, how much do you plan to integrate? From the screenshots I can >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Wow, it already have features I have wished since long time (like the view or inherited / filtered methods and multi selection everywhere). About RB, how much do you plan to integrate? From the screenshots I can see only a few basic ones. Is the idea to have at least the ones of Nautilus? Can we

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-28 0:17 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. : > > I'm not a "pro" of ux but at Synectique I make the css of our web tools. > So I can try to make some mockup of widgets when I will have some time > It will be really really nice. > but I will not have the time to

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 27/12/2016 à 23:45, Denis Kudriashov a écrit : > It would be super cool if some of clever guys could just design look of > browser in pictures. And the rest will be just technical job I'm not a "pro" of ux but at Synectique I make the css of our web tools. So I can try to make some mockup of

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-27 23:11 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov : > On the pure design side, two things that hits my eyes are the toggle >> buttons and the test icon on the package list. >> >> The toggle buttons looks really… "Old". > > > I agree Cyril. Thank's for feedback. > > Definitely

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread stepharong
I love the name. :) and I want to thank Alain for not complaining that we stole the name of one of his projects :) It deserves a little explanation. Nautilus was a submarine of Jules Verne. Calypso is the boat of commandant Cousteau. Now calypso is more than a browser: it is a model

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-27 22:01 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. : > The tests icons should be align on the right of the list I think. But > this should be improve directly on the widget. Right icons aligned and > if the text is too long, cut it, add '…' and show it on the hoover. Or > if

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread stepharong
Thanks denis. :) Now let us make sure that we can deprecated our old friend nautilus :) Stef Hi I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called Calypso. It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for remote scenario.But as result it leads to

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2016-12-27 22:01 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. : > > This is really cool :) > > On the pure design side, two things that hits my eyes are the toggle > buttons and the test icon on the package list. > > The toggle buttons looks really… "Old". I agree Cyril. Thank's for

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 27/12/2016 à 17:12, Denis Kudriashov a écrit : > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called > Calypso. > It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for > remote scenario. > But as result it leads to more important goal: provide clean >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Yes, very cool, great work! > On 27 Dec 2016, at 19:06, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > Ah, this XMas present! > > Thx Denis. > > Phil > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2016-12-27 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Ah, this XMas present! Thx Denis. Phil On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called > Calypso. > It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for > remote