Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Frank-B wrote: > Stephane, > > thank you for your open words. > > 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a > personal email to you. Ok ;) > > 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-14 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 13.08.2017 um 21:19 schrieb Frank-B : > > Stephane, > > thank you for your open words. > > 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a > personal email to you. > > 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo project

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Stephane, thank you for your open words. 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a personal email to you. 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo project very positive and my critics as being (at least intended) constructive. 3) I never care about

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi frank I think that you are slowly but steadily destroying your aura in this mailing-list, so be careful. I say that to help you. Filter are easy to set. We are all concerned that some of the solutions are not at the level where they should be. I'm sure that Noury like us all would love to

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Stephane, all available information is in these two postings further up here: 13 Aug, 2017; 6:18pm versus the end 13 Aug, 2017; 6:38pm Frank -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PharoJS-crashes-at-first-try-tp4960686p4960742.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Paul, > What would you be willing to pay for a professionally commented, > functioning, and documented PharoJS? Pardon, but don't you notice yourself how absurd this question is? If not - and I am afraid you don't, I tell you why: - there is NOWHERE any proper listing of what this mysterious

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Noury is still developing PharoJS. If you want to be productive you should report - what you did. - what went wrong. I will forward to Noury such information because he is not reading Pharo mailing-list. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Frank-B wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Truth has nothing to do with what our current exchange. In your email, you say "many of them [people] lack some important aspects to be called professionals.” You do not know these people, you do not know their motivations, constraints and goals. This means you are in no position to pass a

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Hi Frank, I'd guess you anticipated this astute comment as well: What would you be willing to pay for a professionally commented, functioning, and documented PharoJS? Maybe offer that amount to the projects devs and see if they are willing to develop the system you want to use. Its hard to

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Andreas, you are most likely right, although I do not really qualify as a judge, because I have little experience with the code on these platforms. But this has always been my impression, too. On the other hand, I am sure that the average Smalltakers stands way above the average developer when

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 13.08.17 um 18:18 schrieb Frank-B: Dear Tudor, I had expected such answers and I feel sorry to have to waste time on defending the unwanted truth. You should have noticed how positively I see these activities and how much I regret that my experiences were mostly negative. I would like to

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try - addendum to the error

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Tudor, perhaps I was a little imprecise, therefore this clarification: I just opened the PhariJsESUG19-08-22 image with the PharosJS code included (and I did NOT load any code). I did nothing to it except the mentioned "do it", which includes the creation of two sub-dirs. As one can see from

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Dear Tudor, I had expected such answers and I feel sorry to have to waste time on defending the unwanted truth. You should have noticed how positively I see these activities and how much I regret that my experiences were mostly negative. I would like to have contributed and I certainly would

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Frank, Please be more polite with people that contribute open software that you have the option of actually playing with at no cost (other than time). Saying that the people from around here lack skills is an unnecessary remark and I am sure you can write more positive messages. Beside

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try - missing screenshots

2017-08-13 Thread Frank-B
Pardon, here they are. 170813-PharoJS-Err01.PNG 170813-PharoJS-Err02.PNG -- View this message in context: