Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Nice. - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript? > Local Time: August 13, 2017 10:48 PM > UTC Time: August 14, 2017 2:48 AM > From: eliot.mira...@gmail.com > To: Frank Berger Software , Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hi Frank, > On Aug 12, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Frank Berger Software > wrote: > > Hello, > > the available documentation on Orca looks brilliant and the source, > Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, has an excellent reputation. It looks all > very professional. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Stephan > Perhaps you might want to explain to me the return on investment of the > Orca documentation then? Zero users, zero return on investment. What are you talking about?! a) The external documentation of Orca is brilliant. I have not yet had time to look into the internal comments. So

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

Re-adding the list in case others were interested. - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm > Local Time: August 13, 2017 3:59 PM > UTC Time: August 13, 2017 7:59 PM > From: he...@callistohouse.club > To: Stephane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Frank wrote: > I feel sorry for you if you really have not yet understood that proper, early > and complete documentation and comments ARE ONLY an investment in the code, > because they save time and efforts later on, which always pay back - mostly > multiple times. Perhaps you might want to

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Stephane, thank you for your open words. 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a personal email to you. 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo project very positive and my critics as being (at least intended) constructive. 3) I never care about

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

Tx guille! On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > we just configured fogbugz and github integration as follows: > > http://help.fogcreek.com/8048/integration-with-git > > Quoting the instructions: > > >1. Now you can refer to your

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

Tx eliot. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Andrei, > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Andrei Chis > wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I was executing this code '(2009/2000) ** (3958333/10)' with the >> Pharo6.1

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON

Thank you, Stef. I sent to him email, conditioned on his enjoying his vacations. - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON > Local Time: August 13, 2017 2:53 PM > UTC Time: August 13, 2017 6:53 PM > From: stepharo.s...@gmail.com > To: henry

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

We have some instability with the VM. Now can you tell us more how it "blew up"? I browsed the code and nothing special jump to my eyes. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 2:08 PM, henry wrote: > Hi all. I was testing with this eventual_test package and it blows up the >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON

+1 Doru > On Aug 13, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > Hi henry > > Here is the email of sven Van Caekenberghe > > He is probably on vacation else he would have replied. > This is great if you can extend neoJSON it is a nice and important

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON

Hi henry Here is the email of sven Van Caekenberghe He is probably on vacation else he would have replied. This is great if you can extend neoJSON it is a nice and important piece of software. Stef On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:04 PM, henry wrote: > Is

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Hi frank I think that you are slowly but steadily destroying your aura in this mailing-list, so be careful. I say that to help you. Filter are easy to set. We are all concerned that some of the solutions are not at the level where they should be. I'm sure that Noury like us all would love to

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS fails at first attempt

Merci! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Anybody-using-Orca-Smalltalk-to-JavaScript-tp4960519p4960744.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON

Hello Esteban, Do you have Sven's email? I would like to discuss with him. I am currently considering combining ASN1 Modules, Fuel substitution and NeoJSON encoding. It is some work. Regards, - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON >

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Stephane, all available information is in these two postings further up here: 13 Aug, 2017; 6:18pm versus the end 13 Aug, 2017; 6:38pm Frank -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PharoJS-crashes-at-first-try-tp4960686p4960742.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS fails at first attempt

Hi frank You can contact noury at bouraq...@gmail.com Serge does not work on PharoJS. Noury and Dave are. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Frank-B wrote: > @Serge and @those who developed PharoJS > > My first attempt to play with PharoJS failed. > See here:

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Paul, > What would you be willing to pay for a professionally commented, > functioning, and documented PharoJS? Pardon, but don't you notice yourself how absurd this question is? If not - and I am afraid you don't, I tell you why: - there is NOWHERE any proper listing of what this mysterious

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Hi Noury is still developing PharoJS. If you want to be productive you should report - what you did. - what went wrong. I will forward to Noury such information because he is not reading Pharo mailing-list. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Frank-B wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Stephan, nice ironies! My compliments for this! I won't comment your attempts to justify the "I contribute for my ego", which is published as a great Smalltalk system. I have made my point clear! One comment on this: > Your first message in this thread is excellent. I would expect most

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Hi, Truth has nothing to do with what our current exchange. In your email, you say "many of them [people] lack some important aspects to be called professionals.” You do not know these people, you do not know their motivations, constraints and goals. This means you are in no position to pass a

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Hi Frank, I'd guess you anticipated this astute comment as well: What would you be willing to pay for a professionally commented, functioning, and documented PharoJS? Maybe offer that amount to the projects devs and see if they are willing to develop the system you want to use. Its hard to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hi Frank, It must be very frustrating to see so many possibly interesting projects that are so difficult to get started with, being it because of lack of development and migration to the latest versions, or because of lack of documentation. It is a feeling I, and no doubt a lot of other

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Andreas, you are most likely right, although I do not really qualify as a judge, because I have little experience with the code on these platforms. But this has always been my impression, too. On the other hand, I am sure that the average Smalltakers stands way above the average developer when

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Am 13.08.17 um 18:18 schrieb Frank-B: Dear Tudor, I had expected such answers and I feel sorry to have to waste time on defending the unwanted truth. You should have noticed how positively I see these activities and how much I regret that my experiences were mostly negative. I would like to

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try - addendum to the error

Tudor, perhaps I was a little imprecise, therefore this clarification: I just opened the PhariJsESUG19-08-22 image with the PharosJS code included (and I did NOT load any code). I did nothing to it except the mentioned "do it", which includes the creation of two sub-dirs. As one can see from

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Dear Tudor, I had expected such answers and I feel sorry to have to waste time on defending the unwanted truth. You should have noticed how positively I see these activities and how much I regret that my experiences were mostly negative. I would like to have contributed and I certainly would

[Pharo-dev] Path * '' vs. Path workingDirectory

Hi All, Is there any practical difference between (Path * '') and (Path workingDirectory)? Their internal representation is different: - (Path * '') has one empty segment - Path workingDirectory has no segments But as far as I can tell they are otherwise the same: | fs frEmpty frWD | fs :=

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

Hi Frank, Please be more polite with people that contribute open software that you have the option of actually playing with at no cost (other than time). Saying that the people from around here lack skills is an unnecessary remark and I am sure you can write more positive messages. Beside

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try - missing screenshots

Pardon, here they are. 170813-PharoJS-Err01.PNG 170813-PharoJS-Err02.PNG -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS fails at first attempt

@Serge and @those who developed PharoJS My first attempt to play with PharoJS failed. See here: http://forum.world.st/PharoJS-crashes-at-first-try-tp4960686.html Actually, this is what I had expected, because it resembles (unfortunately) my general experience with Squeak/Pharo from several

[Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

As recommended here: http://forum.world.st/Anybody-using-Orca-Smalltalk-to-JavaScript-td4960519.html by @Serge, I loaded the code and tried to run it. But, I almost tend to say "as usual", *it fails at first try*! I "did" the code in the Playground window but nothing happens, no code is written

[Pharo-dev] PharoDays17: Bloc video - displaying metrics while prototyping

I was watching PharoDays17: Bloc video and @53:15 there was a question due to offset being negative... https://youtu.be/ikzkzfz0zAA?t=3197 ...and I had a random idea (so not necessarily practical) that since we have "metrics" as an object, I wonder if a built in feature to draw these metrics

Re: [Pharo-dev] Orca versus PharoJS

@Serge Merci beaucoup for the recommendation but I had looked at the PharoJS page a few times before and I had not touched it, simply because it's the usual thing that there is absolutely no meaningful information, description, features list etc available. The slides don't really tell anything

[Pharo-dev] Orca versus PharoJS

@Serge Merci beaucoup for the recommendation but I had looked at the PharoJS page a few times before and I had not touched it, simply because it's the usual thing that there is absolutely no meaningful information, description, features list etc available. The slides don't really tell

[Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

Hi all, we just configured fogbugz and github integration as follows: http://help.fogcreek.com/8048/integration-with-git Quoting the instructions: 1. Now you can refer to your FogBugz cases in your GitHub commits (just add “*case *” in the commit message) That will link your fogbugz

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Orca for a modern 'sexy' Smalltalk User Interface

You should have a look to PharoJS that allows you to deploy Pharo app in the browser: https://pharojs.github.io/ PharoJS is fully supported. Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 13 août 2017 à 13:42, Frank-B a écrit : > > @Stephan > > Granted and agreed! > > But that

[Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

Hi all. I was testing with this eventual_test package and it blows up the pharo 6.1 vm. I'd welcome pointers http://www.squeaksource.com/TurquoiseTesting.html - HH

Re: [Pharo-dev] New line on command line

Rajula, you can debug the code in graphical mode also. Would you mind investigating the bug and proposing a fix? It should not be difficult :) Guille On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Rajula Vineet wrote: > > Hi Rajula > > Hey > > > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a portable way to check if a string is a block?

RBParser parseMethod: '...' parses a method RBParser parseExpression: '...' does it for an expression But I think both of them return a method node? I cannot recall. However, you can always do at the end node methodNode statements last isBlockNode or something like that. Can't you? On

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Orca for a modern 'sexy' Smalltalk User Interface

@Stephan Granted and agreed! But that does not explain why it seems that nobody has really used this obviously brilliant Orca approach! In my view, this Orca approach seems by far 'better' in many respects than some pseudo-solutions that expect us to program in the browser (= just absurd) and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

On 12-08-17 22:24, Frank Berger Software wrote: the available documentation on Orca looks brilliant and the source, Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, has an excellent reputation. It looks all very professional. I am therefore most suprised that I cannot find any tracks of usage of Orca,