Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

Yes, here it is, in Pharo6.1, as mentioned previously. Just run the eventual_test tests and it will exit on Ubuntu 32-bit. https://ufile.io/pa9ym Thank you, - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm > Local Time: August 14, 2017 7:45 PM >

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] VistaCursor now scalable

Hi, Mike Davis asked about changing the cursor size as he runs Pharo with Windows 10 on a Microsoft Surface @ 2736 x 1824 dpi. He discussed on Discord and said that all of the display is well scaled, except the mouse cursor which is too small for him. As the Windows VM supports larger cursors

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

Hi Henry, On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:58 PM, henry wrote: > If you need more info, please ask and I will try to get ths to you. > yes, if you can make the image & changes available somewhere that would be nice. Thanks. > > - HH > > > Original Message

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

If you need more info, please ask and I will try to get ths to you. - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm > Local Time: August 14, 2017 6:54 PM > UTC Time: August 14, 2017 10:54 PM > From: he...@callistohouse.club > To: Eliot Miranda

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

Yes, it is pharo 6.1 32-bit, standard image with Cryptography loaded, on ubuntu 32-bit. Here is the vm version info below. I loaded this package and ran the tests and it exited...http://www.squeaksource.com/TurquoiseTesting/eventual_test-hh.4.mcz Here is the pharo 6.1 version...

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

Hi Henry, On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 5:08 AM, henry wrote: > Hi all. I was testing with this eventual_test package and it blows up the > pharo 6.1 vm. I'd welcome pointers > > http://www.squeaksource.com/TurquoiseTesting.html > Care to share how to reproduce the crash?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

Hi, > On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > again, I think this is a discussion for pharo-dev. > Please keep it there (is good discussion, btw ;) ). > > What about my proposal of including a tiny PetitParser? (it would be > “InfimeParser” :P) I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hi Frank-- > I see absolutely no sense in this approach for real-world end-user > applications... Smalltalk in a web browser (or NodeJS) makes just as much sense as any other JS framework, like React, Angular, etc. BitBLT, Morphic, and even the Smalltalk process scheduler are all entirely

[Pharo-dev] S8 Smalltalk tools - Android

We've published an enviroment for social development as an Android Application! Now we have support for Object Technology on Android devices. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.smalltalking.s8.jx8 Greetings Elvio

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

Thanks for this discussion! It will improve Guille proposal and Pharo :) I'm happy! And learning things. (ok I should prepare my lectures instead of reading. I guess that I will have to use pomodoro techniques to force me to work :) Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Eliot Miranda

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] build 35 - PR 172 Implement-WeakIdentityValueDictionary

[Pharo 70 ] build 35 - PR 172 Implement-WeakIdentityValueDictionary https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20105/Implement-WeakIdentityValueDictionary

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Guillermo Polito < guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Eliot Miranda > wrote: > >> Hi Guille, >> >> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Guillermo Polito < >> guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

I like your answer nicolas. If this is really important for any business or any dev around let us know we can just tag it and we will port it for 6.2. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Hi Tim, > I'd say: is this a showstopper? >

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Frank-B wrote: > Stephane, > > thank you for your open words. > > 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a > personal email to you. Ok ;) > > 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

Hi Eliot, On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Guille, > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm proposing a kind-of critical change that I believe is very good for >> the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

Hi Guille, On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm proposing a kind-of critical change that I believe is very good for > the health of the system: I want that the startup of the system runs in > maximum priority and becomes

Re: [Pharo-dev] Little article: keep your pharo repository in sync

Thanks guille This is great to have all these ressources on git integration. Once you are done :) we can really easily create a booklet around git and pharo. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > This little article explains how you should

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

Thank Tim, My primary reason to submit the message was not to necessarily persuade you per se. But to provide something historical for the mailing list as this can be a recurring subject. Why use Pillar markup instead of ???(insert personal favorite). If Pharo were to decide on a different

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hello Craig, this approach just as Bert's VM in the browser is/are certainly technically very interesting projects and now comes the big "BUT": - I see absolutely no sense in this approach for real-world end-user applications - especially if their sources MUST be closely connected with existing

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

I am coding in Squeak as I am unable to load in Pharo, as previously mentioned. I will investigate Fuel versions, thank you. - HH On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 13:36, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > I checked and in Pharo 60 MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

> > Oh, I'm plenty comfortable discussing it on the Pharo lists. :) I > was referring to different context in which someone asked me a question > here, and I got attacked for responding to it. I surprised about it. Because we are welcoming discussions. Now discussions around Pharo are

[Pharo-dev] Little article: keep your pharo repository in sync

This little article explains how you should keep your branches in sync with iceberg or (in worst-case scenario) from the command line. https://github.com/guillep/PharoIntegrationProcess/wiki/Keep-your-repo-in-sync These are the things I do all the time, if you have other cases, or you want to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

I checked and in Pharo 60 MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'Fuel' user: '' password: '' Now Fuel is by default loaded into Pharo so may be you have another scenario. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, henry wrote: > I loaded the latest

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

Alright, thank you, I will investigate. I attempted to create a SmalltalkHub account but I am unable to create a project. I am slightly overwhelmed at the fractious nature of repositories, between and within Squeak & Pharo, and also encoder serializations. I hope for reconsolidation. - HH On

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hi Frank-- I'm working on a different project called Caffeine[1]. It runs Pharo, Squeak, and Cuis object memories in web browsers, using the SqueakJS virtual machine. There is support for the Chrome Debugging Protocol, the A-Frame WebVR framework, and the Snowglobe remote UI framework

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

Hi Henry I do not think that Fuel is managed from SqueakSource. Fuel is central to Pharo so it should be under Pharo.. Have a look at the repo associated with the fuel package in Pharo 60 for example. Sent from a phone that is not trendy On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, henry

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

According to https://travis-ci.org/theseion/Fuel the tests are fine for the release version Squeak 5.1. Could you post a code snippet which shows how it fails. If you are using Squeak 6.0a, which version do you use? --HH On 8/14/17, henry wrote: > I loaded

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > I’m definitely in favour of doing something (as I found it confusing, and > in a way also found it has the potential to leak what could be sensitive > information through command line contexts that are still lurking in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

Hi guille thanks for raising this point. I will wait a bit that other people comment on it since it is a crucial point. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > I’m definitely in favour of doing something (as I found it confusing, and > in a way also

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

We can change the syntax or propose an alternate one as soon as it uses the same internal structure. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Jimmie et al. nicely reasoned arguments - and Doru's point about controlling > the syntax is an interesting one

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

You hit several birds with one single mail. 2017-08-14 13:34 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon : > Jimmie et al. nicely reasoned arguments - and Doru's point about controlling > the syntax is an interesting one that I hadn’t thought about. > > Personally, I find having too many similar

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

Jimmie et al. nicely reasoned arguments - and Doru's point about controlling the syntax is an interesting one that I hadn’t thought about. Personally, I find having too many similar syntax’s confusing - contributing to things is hard enough - having to remember that its !! Instead of ## and “”

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

TL;DR Main points: Their is no universally accepted markup language. Other communities use their own markup and tools and their markup and tools choice is not determine by other communities decisions. We need a language and tool chain that we can control and maintain which accomplishes our

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

I’m definitely in favour of doing something (as I found it confusing, and in a way also found it has the potential to leak what could be sensitive information through command line contexts that are still lurking in the image with details about previous directory structures and commands). I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Path * '' vs. Path workingDirectory

Hi Guille, Thanks for your reply. On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 01:44:41PM +0200, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > > Hi All, > > Is there any practical difference between (Path * '') and (Path >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to build Mac VM - ld: library not found for -lssl

Hi, This is a known problem on Sierra. There are two possible workaround: 1) locate the Xcode lib repository and copy /usr/lib/libssl.* there The entire procedure is explained in a Readme see https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/blob/Cog/build.macos32x86/HowToBuild 2) install

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

again, I think this is a discussion for pharo-dev. Please keep it there (is good discussion, btw ;) ). What about my proposal of including a tiny PetitParser? (it would be “InfimeParser” :P) Esteban > On 14 Aug 2017, at 11:10, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > The

[Pharo-dev] Trying to build Mac VM - ld: library not found for -lssl

Git cloned, cd to build.macosxxx/pharo.cog.spur ./mvm -A Either 32 or 64 bit builds dies trying to build libSqueakSSL with library not found for -lssl. Homebrew doesn't seem to have an entry for libssl. Stumped. -Todd Blanchard

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

> Am 13.08.2017 um 21:19 schrieb Frank-B : > > Stephane, > > thank you for your open words. > > 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a > personal email to you. > > 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo project

Re: [Pharo-dev] Path * '' vs. Path workingDirectory

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there any practical difference between (Path * '') and (Path > workingDirectory)? > Being strict, Path workingDirectory does not make any sense. A path is relative or absolute. And it is relative to

[Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

Hi all, I'm proposing a kind-of critical change that I believe is very good for the health of the system: I want that the startup of the system runs in maximum priority and becomes non-interruptable. Right now, when you save your image, the shutdown and startup are run in the same priority than

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

It’s a fair point - I guess if enough things crop up, then a 6.2 release gets contemplated. Tim > On 14 Aug 2017, at 10:29, Nicolas Cellier > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > I'd say: is this a showstopper? > How often do you raise a Fraction to the power of another

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

Hi Tim, I'd say: is this a showstopper? How often do you raise a Fraction to the power of another Fraction with large denominator (> 1)? Or is it used indirectly by some kind of Framework? If yes then open a pharo bug entry and mark for 6.x, else just wait 7.x... Nicolas 2017-08-14 10:49

[Pharo-dev] @ H. Hirzel asking for the Orca docs

Hello Hannes, for some reason your post does not show up here on the forum (and I hate mailing lists): > Hello Frank > > A question: you wrote earlier about an 'excellent' Orca documentation? > Where did you find it? > >http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/orca/index.html >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hi Frank, Craig is not working on PharoJS. He works on another project derived from SqueakJS (a project that offers a VM running inside the browser) that also has integration for Pharo. Cheers, Doru > On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Frank-B wrote: > > Hello

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

Is there a way for this to get back into 6.1 - so we can shoot for a stable 6.x version that will last us for a year while 7.x is under development? I’m not familiar with how point release are handled in Pharo, and I get the impression that this is going to be a slightly rockier year as there

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7] Build 34 - Issue 20301 loading of BaselineOfIDE must not resolve conflicts automatically

Build 34 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/close/20301/loading-of-BaselineOfIDE-must-not-resolve-conflicts-automatically https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/190#pullrequestreview-56020044 -- Guille Polito Research Engineer French National Center for Scientific Research -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Nice. - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript? > Local Time: August 14, 2017 2:38 AM > UTC Time: August 14, 2017 6:38 AM > From: frank.berger.softw...@web.de > To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org > > Hello Craig, > > upfront thank

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hello Craig, upfront thank you very much for being willing to respond to my problems and questions. As I tried to make clear in this and the neighboring thread: http://forum.world.st/PharoJS-crashes-at-first-try-td4960686.html I am looking for a serious "professional" solution to combine

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Nice. - HH > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript? > Local Time: August 14, 2017 2:09 AM > UTC Time: August 14, 2017 6:09 AM > From: cr...@blackpagedigital.com > To: Pharo Development List > > Hi-- >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

Hi-- Eliot writes to Frank: > Craig Latta has done some strong work integrating Squeak and Pharo > with the browser using a bridge derived from Bert Freudenberg's > SqueakJS. Craig's work allows one to use Pharo running on the > standard Cog VM, client side, to render to the browser,