[Pharo-dev] Pharo Redis?

2013-05-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hey guys, I've seen here a reference in http://redis.io/clients to this Smalltalk client: http://www.squeaksource.com/@kv_Jds-P7FbzciwZ/xU6A7ylR The last commit is kind of old (2011) 1. Are you using it? 2. Is anybody interested in maintaining a Redis Pharo client here? Why Redis you might

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Barcode project with initial EAN13

2013-06-15 Thread Sebastian Sastre
awesome. This will come handy for sure. I'd also find useful QRCodes Keep it going! sebastian o/ On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, didnt know Barcodes are so easy to implement in Smalltalk. So I started with EAN13 barcode together with unit

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub use of LESS stylesheets

2013-09-26 Thread Sebastian Sastre
I'm curions on how this develops. Looking forward for hear about every tactic to make amber apps loading snappishly :D On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The SmalltalkHub website seems to be using LESS stylesheets, which are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo-V20.sources

2013-10-26 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: I was just installing Pharo on a new machine and I know where I can find those things mind to share?

[Pharo-dev] Suggestion on naming: shorter names

2013-10-26 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi there, I've saw this: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W64 that you introduced: valueWithInterval: aDelay valueAfterWaiting: aDelay which is a cool feature. I only suggest that it could have shorter names. Using: valueAfter: aDelay and valueEvery: aDelay would make it look like:

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalkhub down

2013-10-26 Thread Sebastian Sastre
10 hours later we're still down... :( On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Yes, it is down. No issue fixing or integrations … Nicolas is closer to you than to us I guess: http://nicolas-petton.fr/blog/index.html On 26 Oct 2013, at 02:13, Sebastian

Re: [Pharo-dev] MongoTalk on Pharo 3

2013-10-26 Thread Sebastian Sastre
You're right Tudor! in Pharo 2.0 it loads fine sebastian o/ On Oct 26, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I guess that happens because MongoTalk was only released for Pharo 2.0. Doru On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tests with multiple processes

2013-10-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
you can do stuff like that, just not sync (which when it's about networks is a good idea) sounds like you should design things javascript style. I mean, like if everything is a callback reacting to something.. yourAPIClient sendCommand: aCommand do: aBlockHandlingResponse my 2 cents On

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to encrypt a password?

2013-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
+1 you should definitively NOT encrypt Cupid Media hacked, 42 million passwords was stolen: http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1327069 You're Probably Storing Passwords Incorrectly: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/09/youre-probably-storing-passwords-incorrectly.html And now you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Zeroconf on HN, please upvote.

2013-11-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
voted o/ On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:56 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
: Hi Sebastian, CC-ing to the mailing list because this is generally useful. On 28 Nov 2013, at 14:11, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi Sven, how are you? all good over there? quick question: should this be enough to stop Zinc? ZnServer

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
. mmm On Nov 28, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 28 Nov 2013, at 17:35, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: This is how I start Zinc (ZnServer startDefaultOn: self port) delegate: self makeDispatcher; register

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stopping Zinc

2013-11-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Did a test now and looks good. But using closeAndDestroy: 0 when stopping the websocket handler collects things a lot sooner thanks for the tip Sven! On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:31, Sebastian Sastre sebast

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo magic

2013-12-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Thanks for sharing that Kilon On Dec 6, 2013, at 6:49 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Well I tried pharo just for fun , I knew it would not last. Pharo is unpopular, not enough libraries, small community , not nearly enough documentation. Pharo was nothing more than a little

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo magic

2013-12-07 Thread Sebastian Sastre
That's actually great advice coming from a time-tested source :D On Dec 7, 2013, at 6:38 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Nicolai. Actually small contributions is what most open source projects are made of since the majority of people don't have the luxury of free

[Pharo-dev] The Future of Programming ~ Bret Victor

2013-12-09 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Brilliant talk guys, it's a must watch for smalltalkers, you'll love it https://vimeo.com/71278954 Anybody here knows Bret? sebastian o/

[Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Are you using git with your Pharo based software? If you do, are you using filetree? I ask because I'm worried about scale. I have packages (in the order of hundreds of classes) and save delays and package click delays are starting to demand patience in a way that doesn't feel like the right

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Sastre
compatibility? Paying a toll for no reason is evil. Maybe we could make that optional so those who don't extract value from that feature can opt-out? sebastian o/ On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi Thierry On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:43 PM

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Sastre
://about.me/__sebastianconcept https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com mailto:sebast...@flowingconcept.com mailto:sebastian

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-11 Thread Sebastian Sastre
leaving on a trip tomorrow early, so I have no idea of when I'll have the time to do that :( ). Thierry Le 11/12/2013 16:44, Sebastian Sastre a écrit : Without entering in details, a cause for slow package write is dumping all every time. For that strategy, we already have the image save

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
package to test. Which version of Pharo you are using? 2.0 or 3.0? Regards, Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Sebastian Sastre [sebast...@flowingconcept.com] Date d'envoi : mercredi 11 décembre 2013 17:09 À : Pharo Development List Objet : Re

Re: [Pharo-dev] could we stop to create spaghetti code?

2013-12-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
I think the idea here is that maybe a class should have an icon. Independend of Nautilus.\ (either just icon or toolIcon). Marcus In a great environment you have icons and icon-sets defined by UX/UI designers. If we couple too much to code we'll create a barrier for that.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image frozen on SocketwaitForConnectionFor: timeout ifTimedOut: timeoutBlock

2013-12-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
: (self class deadlineSecs: timeout) ifTimedOut: timeoutBlock On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I'm having an issue.. What happens? The image UI gets frozen when terminating a thread that's waiting on that method What I've

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-13 Thread Sebastian Sastre
? Anything that doesn't require a NDA to read it, of course. Is Roassal large enough? Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Sebastian Sastre [sebast...@flowingconcept.com] Date d'envoi : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 12:12 À : Pharo Development List Objet : Re

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-13 Thread Sebastian Sastre
. Is that a lot lower than your count? Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Sebastian Sastre [sebast...@flowingconcept.com] Date d'envoi : vendredi 13 décembre 2013 13:34 À : Pharo Development List Objet : Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow how many

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tell me about your workflow

2013-12-13 Thread Sebastian Sastre
on a slow netbook to see. I don't see a factor of 10 difference between yours and Roassal, so I'll have a look. Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Sebastian Sastre [sebast...@flowingconcept.com] Date d'envoi : vendredi 13 décembre 2013 14:32 À : Pharo

[Pharo-dev] Showstopper to upgrade to 3.0

2013-12-16 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, I was talking with Thierry about gitfiletree and saving big packages and after some tests I've perceived that gitfiletree in a 3.0 Pharo image performs quite well. Moving to 3.0 sounds that will improve productivity and workflow. The problem for me is I can't upgrade to 3.0 The

Re: [Pharo-dev] Showstopper to upgrade to 3.0

2013-12-17 Thread Sebastian Sastre
me want FFI :D I'd very much like to test any candidate version about this thanks! sebastian o/ On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 16 Dec 2013, at 16:52, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I was talking

[Pharo-dev] [OT] ouch! Too few likes?

2013-12-19 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi there, I don't believe in vanity metrics but I'm receiving some critics about low quantity of likes that would be nice to answer. Can you help us boost this pharo-powered app with your like here? https://www.facebook.com/airflowing Many many thanks! Also this should help us to promote it

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] JetStorm

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Fantastic work. Maybe you should try talking with these guys: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1039674461/primo-teaching-programming-logic-to-children-age-4 Sounds like there is space for an intermediate product to ease the learning curve there sebastian o/ On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:09

Re: [Pharo-dev] FFI loadable in Pharo 3.0

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Sastre
testing.. On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12438/Old-FFI-Check-that-it-is-parsed-correctly-and-works I was fixing this bug with Guille today. You can load FFI with the Configuration browser. Please try to

Re: [Pharo-dev] FFI loadable in Pharo 3.0

2013-12-20 Thread Sebastian Sastre
It loads alright but I have to port some dependencies (on FileDirectory of other parts of the code) so I don't have conclusive results so far. But things are unstuck now From my side, I'll let you know about any news on this sebastian o/ On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Clément Bera

Re: [Pharo-dev] FFI loadable in Pharo 3.0

2013-12-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: for FileDirectory you have a loadable package. what you mean? where?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OT] SqueakJS - SqueakVM running on JavaScript

2013-12-22 Thread Sebastian Sastre
ha! fantastic On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Really cool - Bert wrote a SqueakVM running on top of JavaScript: SqueakJS blog post: http://croquetweak.blogspot.de/2013/12/squeakjs-lively-squeak-vm.html SqueakJS Lively access:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OT]: Looking for Bill Schwab

2013-12-26 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Indeed, I have pleasant memories of the Dolphin Smalltalk days and his comments on the list He did many cool things On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Thanks. This is surprising, he was really young and this is sad. Stef I used to enjoy

Re: [Pharo-dev] new year resolution

2014-01-02 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok, but let's get concrete. What does better mean in this case? I think we could all learn from each other's examples. Relations/Collaborations with other classes Invariant internal representations for real

[Pharo-dev] Learning from each other

2014-01-02 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, Watching other people code is the fastest way to learn certain things. It's a great way to show, understand and set expectations on code-related projects What about doing some Pharo related code here: http://coderstv.com/languages sebastian o/

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Changes reads Merge writes In order to make safe a potentially dangerous operation, the write is done in two steps so the user can confirm what is going to be written (or have a chance to check if changes are the ones expected or not and abort without modifying the code). It's functionally

Re: [Pharo-dev] Don't make me think (the one thing you shouldn't ignore about user interfaces)

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
will react violently to any change… but well, we will do it anyway, with your help. Let’s all together build a better IDE for the future :) Esteban On 03 Jan 2014, at 01:13, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Guys is no mystery that we have some issues with UI

Re: [Pharo-dev] Don't make me think (the one thing you shouldn't ignore about user interfaces)

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
, Doru On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Our engineering bias make us think too literally some times. Let's stay scientific but use the designer hat instead of the mathematician hat. I know is for the web, but don't you have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Don't make me think (the one thing you shouldn't ignore about user interfaces)

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
If that's the case the UI curators should decide what are those 3 priority issues We can jump to these: 7. Don't panic by overwhelming issues. Discuss with colleagues or publish in a private wiki for the team or something 8. Decide what are the 3 most blocking entry barriers and show that to

[Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
How are we going to tell that our DateAndTime does not understand #date nor #time? (and keep our face straight) Sorry for the drama but hey... the raison d'être, its meaning, the purpose in the life of a DateAndTime is to make you able to send messages about date and time :D How come that the

Re: [Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
BTW DateAndTime today class = DateAndTime. true DateAndTime today asTimeStamp class = TimeStamp. true DateAndTime today asTimeStamp asDateAndTime = DateAndTime. false (stays as TimeStamp) o.O On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: How

Re: [Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
a lot against intuition for no good reason sebastian o/ On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 03 Jan 2014, at 18:50, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: How are we going to tell that our DateAndTime does not understand #date nor

Re: [Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 3, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: TimeStamp is on the way out since it hardly differs from DateAndTime and confuses the hell out of everyone. This discussion is independent of which name is best. I'm cool about keeping only one. Omitting the basics,

Re: [Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
the original object, but that would not work. On 03 Jan 2014, at 19:03, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: yeah is what I'm using now but the 'as' means conversion while the #date and #time suggest delegating access to the other guy returning to the question

[Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, anyone here using SIXX? I'm having a consistent problem in opening a SixxReadStream on a file that has ~10MB of serialized objects. Smaller than that is all good Bigger, raises SixxXmlParseError ideas? Maybe I'm using the wrong version of XMLDOMParser? patches? workarounds?

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
/sixx.object looks like an encoding problem On Jan 3, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, anyone here using SIXX? I'm having a consistent problem in opening a SixxReadStream on a file that has ~10MB of serialized objects

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I've changed the XMLParser how? With this guy: ConfigurationOfXMLParser load. from MetaRepoForPharo30

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
I've discovered that its part of a JsonObject that holds the facebook profile associated with the user. SIXX is cool but I'm with the feeling that it's time to give fuel a chance On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:01 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2014 20:07, Sebastian

Re: [Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Sebastian Sastre
more than writing a mail) and make a proposal. We will discuss and probably converge and improve the system. Stef On 03 Jan 2014, at 19:41, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Yeah Sven, I know timezones can be hell. Actually for me this isn't an issue as already

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Thanks for the tip. AFAIK, STON would be best suited for JSON friendly instances. I need something more general. What I was trying to do with sixx is to dump the airflowing odb's to migrate data so pharo 3 can use it.* The object databases are composed by many kinds of objects, only a few

[Pharo-dev] fuel on pharo 3

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
How you guys are loading fuel on Pharo 3? This isn't getting that done: Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Fuel/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfFuel'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFuel) project

Re: [Pharo-dev] fuel on pharo 3

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
cool thanks On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: How you guys are loading fuel on Pharo 3? This isn't getting that done: Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Fuel/main'; package

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: and, you can not ask at the same time for “nice” APIs and then complain when we do what you ask… Marcus Marcus please notice I'm not complaining about #jdn going #julianDayNumber, just sharing that I'm

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: PD: All this is due to the change that happened in DateAndTime #jdn - #julianDayNumber which is forcing me to either abandon Pharo 3, do horrible hacks to it or stay with older pharo. OK, that is a rename, why can’t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Look at those results! Can't wait to use it. Fantastic work Sean Questions: 1) how it behaves is you enter 'asStr' (and has tons of results because implementors of asString) 2) can you test a variation that in the implementor messages it shows you the class? (because lets say you type 'ope'

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 4, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Thanks :) currently, it limits each group to show 7 results. And for messages, it opens an implementors browser, so #asString is only one result, no matter how many classes implement it. That being said, it is highly

[Pharo-dev] Browser focus issue?

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, I'm using the code browser and selecting methods and often I click select a method, lets say for refactoring, and press cmd-x and nothing happens. Sounds like a key events focus issue sebastian o/ Pharo #30668

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Glass] printString and asString

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: DomainObject from which most of our classes inherit, so this is probably the place to add a 'displayString' for something like this. Not necessarily domain objects only. Some core objects (Blocks,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Glass] printString and asString

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Otto Behrens o...@finworks.biz wrote: I don't really understand why. How would you distinguish between which (kinds of) core objects and which not? Will you not end up with a displayString on Object again? You will not know all the 'why's in advance. The

Re: [Pharo-dev] Browser focus issue?

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
yeah, with the same result sounds like the keyboard events aren't observed so it won't react (mouse is ok) On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: did you try cmd+x, cmd+m Ben On 06 Jan 2014, at 08:39, Sebastian Sastre sebast

Re: [Pharo-dev] Browser focus issue?

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
...@gmail.com wrote: strange :) Ben On 06 Jan 2014, at 13:16, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: yeah, with the same result sounds like the keyboard events aren't observed so it won't react (mouse is ok) On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Benjamin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-06 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 6, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: However, I favor descriptive theming (like CSS) rather than programmed theming (like the actual). this raises an interesting point and hard questions: if themes are programmed instead of easily described... Aren't

Re: [Pharo-dev] Inspector shortcuts

2014-01-07 Thread Sebastian Sastre
sounds exactly like the browser focus issue I've reported. But issue doesn't seem to be the focus because when you give focus with mouse all is good except for the keyboard events Somehow a) the keyboard events' observation is being lost or b) the observers aren't reacting appropriately

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-08 Thread Sebastian Sastre
+1 you simply don't get onboard boats that doesn't have lifesaver boats sebastian o/ On Jan 8, 2014, at 7:04 PM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I don't like an app that does not ask for my confirmation , because I tend to do a lot of stupid mistakes along the way and I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-09 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 9, 2014, at 5:50 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: I don't think we have to discuss what would be the better alternative. People have different preferences and different workflows. Why don't we make a setting for this? Something like Codepanes can discard edits, and let

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-09 Thread Sebastian Sastre
BTW I want to let you know that I love the insensitive search It makes it so much valuable (by reducing assumptions on how much the user should know apriori) I'ts a nice little bit of the OS X experience bring to the smalltalk image fantastic On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Sean DeNigris

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-09 Thread Sebastian Sastre
the solution is to set that on settings use barriers for protection and let hackers do its risky thing Pharo will be better if Igor can use it like a ninja and the rest of us noobs not so eager to loose code changes stick to a safer workflow On Jan 9, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Igor Stasenko

Re: [Pharo-dev] Punishment as an educational method

2014-01-10 Thread Sebastian Sastre
guys this discussion is heading towards a non fruitful direction Let's remember why are we here? The purpose of the Smalltalk project is to provide computer support for the creative spirit in everyone. ~ D.H. Ingalls Do you know what are the psychological consequences of punishment feedback on

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 build is green!

2014-01-10 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Thanks for the announce and the great work I'm going to create an airflowing worker based on this and set in on a staged account for testing. I'll let you know any insight coming from it Again, thank you very much to all for this sebastian o/ On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Marcus Denker

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-10 Thread Sebastian Sastre
LOL Igor I can see what you are doing there hug and go Sean go, give us that spotlight! o/ On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: [troll mode on] .. and why there's no 'are you sure you wanna open search widget' dialog before you opening it and 'are you

[Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

2014-01-10 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, I'm new to ZeroConf, sounds really great. In OS X worked fine for me but on an ubuntu machine it said this: --2014-01-10 23:48:30-- http://get.pharo.org/30+vm Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 128.93.162.72 Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|128.93.162.72|:80...

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi Michael, sounds good but what script do you mean I should edit? I mean, all I'm seen is that wget and curl It's a bug in the hosted scripts? sebastian o/ On Jan 11, 2014, at 2:26 AM, Michael J. Forster m...@sharedlogic.ca wrote: On 14-01-10 07:54 PM, Sebastian Sastre wrote: Hi guys

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Chris Muller asquea...@gmail.com wrote: the point is that i am always sure about things i do, when interacting with my computer. That means that you're exceptional Chris! Like in the exception (and not the rule) Undo on Command+L would be of no use except for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Which goes in front collision course with the usability principle Don't make me think for designing great user interfaces How do you see it? Like: Pharo - programming language that don't makes you think? Did I mention

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: - if there is an unaccepted edit, it should not be lost, so we need a dialog, undo or history - if you explicitly cancel an edit, there should not be a dialog, because you just said you want to cancel Yes, that's the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: And modal popups is clearly against this principle. Because they a) make you think b) draw your energy from what you really should be thinking on.. so please explain, how adding yes/no popup to cmd-L command handling

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: how i discovered it? by holding cmd key and pressing all keys in order. LOL XD

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 12, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Cancel is next to Accept in almost any Edit menu, with the command keys L and S respectively. You should have seen this the moment you started coding: This comment brings something interesting to add to the discussion

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-13 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 13, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: No…. but what I have learned is that any change, even to the good, will be very hard to do because people are very much defined by habits. So do not expect the existing users to be happy… it’s sad but it is like

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-13 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 13, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: One small step at a time. Pick one aspect and try to fix it. Highlight the problem, propose a solution, get some consensus, apply. Repeat. yeah, that's a lot But.. Good problem finding and good proposed solutions

[Pharo-dev] Relative path

2014-01-13 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, nothing terrible, just some comments on paths and file references I found today myself doing in a method: ^ (AbsolutePath withAll: anAbsolutePath path segments, aRelativePathFilename segments) asFileReference exists. To put a relative path on top of an absolute path

Re: [Pharo-dev] Relative path

2014-01-14 Thread Sebastian Sastre
suggestion, would be nice to have AnstractPathasPath ^ self On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, nothing terrible, just some comments on paths and file references I found today myself doing in a method

[Pharo-dev] RFB on a headless Pharo 3

2014-01-20 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Guys Just checking while investigating the issue... Were any of you here able to connect a VNC client to a headless Pharo 3? I can do that to a Pharo 2 (seting a morphic ui manager on it) but I'm having issues with 3 Did you tried that? any luck? insights? sebastian o/

Re: [Pharo-dev] RFB on a headless Pharo 3

2014-01-20 Thread Sebastian Sastre
open it with UI and all will be nice and good or you’ll have an image that can’t start in headless mode =/ still investigating... contributions are very welcome sebastian o/ On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Guys Just checking while

Re: [Pharo-dev] RFB on a headless Pharo 3

2014-01-20 Thread Sebastian Sastre
no PharoDegug.log this time =/ ideas? On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: If you want to reproduce the issue: 1. Take a fresh image wget -O- get.pharo.org/30+vm | bash 2. start it with UI and in a workspace load RFB

[Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, The script for OS X is different from linux right? I ask because.. If you use linux for servers and development, using ZeroConf is a breeze In the other hand, if you use mac on development it introduces a bit of friction because you need a different set of start scripts Am I right?

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: No problems whatsoever :) Do you version VM and scripts in your git repo? If yes how do you handle the difference? sebastian o/

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
/ubuntu for development on MacOSX there is a launcher with installer: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/ On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: No problems whatsoever :) On 21.01.2014, at 17:30, Sebastian Sastre sebast

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: I use zeroconf scripts (and my own modified scripts) for working on mac, and I’m a lot happier with them than with the launcher, which does not fit my workflow. okay, how do you handle the difference? I mean in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-25 Thread Sebastian Sastre
. the grass is always greener elsewhere, no? If we want to really improve the system we should accept that it may not be a simple easy path. Stef On 21 Jan 2014, at 19:07, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: We have to be careful about this. I’m not saying traits

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-27 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Dec 20, 2013, at 8:52 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say though I would love for someone to fix the update process too, the whole deal of dowloading the latest release and then installing from scratch all my third party libraries is killing my inner child.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-27 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I think this is conceptually wrong. Images has to go (by default) into ~/Documents/Pharo Images. (Same as VMWare virtual machines go into ~/Documents/Virtual Machines and parallels into “~/Documents/Parallels This

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: maybe the launcher can be location agnostic and remember somewhere the locations of the lasts images that where opened with it and simply offer links to open the ones at the lasts, say 7 images, paths. You will even

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote:Therefore, my suggestion is to keep it location agnosticI still don't get it. Do you suggest that the launcher should alwaysask the user where to put new images?Here is an idea:you can count the clicks and the cases it’d

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

2014-01-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Ukraine Prime Minister Azarov resigns http://rt.com/news/ukrainian-minister-azarov-resigns-286/ Ukraine crisis: Parliament abolishes anti-protest law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25923199 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: Thanks for sharing it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where to report bugs?

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
I hope we’re not making it harder than it should for fear to feedback On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:13 AM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 28/01/2014 16:53, Noury Bouraqadi a écrit : I tried fogbugz but I failed to connect... Reading your email I can't help smiling,

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more MouseWheelEvents?

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
There is something about the wheel because often, at least in Nautilus, you get crazy scrolls you dind’t asked for Specially if using trackpad, two finger, scroll On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 AM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: I am not exactly sure, but I think

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more MouseWheelEvents?

2014-01-29 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:08 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: So I have stopped using gestures at all with Nautilus and instead do manual scrolls dragging the scroll bar. I understand this is the symptom of an early release of course

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