Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo [vm-dev]

2018-04-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
; > Linkedin : armel embolo > <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=AAMAABYswuMBn33mi4o_x8R49OxfxiIQVAryzw4=hp-identity-name> > Tel : (+237) 650231339/698594740 Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: feenk log

2018-01-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
also can still register from the outside to > a specific event using a normal when:do:. > > We will write a piece of doc about it. > > Cheers, > Tudor > > >> On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> >> wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] feenk log

2018-01-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
team > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Obvious things are difficult to teach." > > > > > ___ > Moose-dev mailing list > moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
would love a working VM release process. > > - Tag releases of the stable VM > - Be able to take release X.Y and release X.Y+1 with a single bugfix ---- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 5

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
t means we will >> implement all of it (as always, time drives our possibilities), but is a >> good moment for us a a community to check where we are and where we wan to >> go next :) >> >> So, let’s those wishes come! >> >> cheers, >> Esteban &

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
map and it does not means we will > implement all of it (as always, time drives our possibilities), but is a good > moment for us a a community to check where we are and where we wan to go next > :) > > So, let’s those wishes come! > > cheers, > Esteban >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ann] gtmondrian

2017-12-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
t; asFileReference > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > The feenk team > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > www.feenk.com > > "Quality cannot be an afterthought." > > __

[Pharo-dev] ESUG Pharo GIT BOFs

2017-09-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thursday after the talk of Esteban 16h45 Please pass the message and join. Stef Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86

Re: [Pharo-dev] unload all

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent like that I can work on the loading part I love sooo writing configurations. Stef On 20 Jan 2014, at 12:18, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the job: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKernel3.0-FromTopShrink/ -- Pavel

Re: [Pharo-dev] [COTDC] 108 - NewValueHolder

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I commented the code in a slice that apparently was not integrated. But yes this is a good idea. - to have more code review - to revive the COTDC I had some questions about NewValueHolder and I figured, why not revive COTDC?! The current comment is: A NewValueHolder is a

Re: [Pharo-dev] PhD Position on Dynamic Reflective Language Integration with FPGAs for Robotic Applications

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
No one guy accepted and left after a couple of weeks. We know that bad pattern. Stef Encore ?? Personne ne veut venir, c’est ça ? :P Ben On 20 Jan 2014, at 17:01, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: The position is available now. Interested candidates may apply as soon as

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Impact

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The Pharo fork made me sad too. I wonder sometime if I had put in more time if I could have helped settle the rift and keep the community together. There is a lot of good work going on with Pharo now so maybe the fork was a good thing but I do wish we could all be working on one code base

Re: [Pharo-dev] Making Platform Installers

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Excellent After we can flesh it nicely. Stef On 20 Jan 2014, at 21:55, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: super cool first draft:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anyone with the passwd to edit http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 21 Jan 2014, at 07:59, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 18 Jan 2014, at 11:26, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 10231 collaboractive Book: Page about Pharo Tools is out of date https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10231 — the action needed to close this

Re: [Pharo-dev] [COTDC] 108 - NewValueHolder

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
;) 2014/1/20 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr I commented the code in a slice that apparently was not integrated. But yes this is a good idea. - to have more code review - to revive the COTDC I had some questions about NewValueHolder and I figured, why not revive

Re: [Pharo-dev] [COTDC] 108 - NewValueHolder

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Since nobody looks at it: here are the issue (they contain class comments). https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12572 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12486 Apparently all the work I did around Spec is not reviewed. May be I should push them without waiting from any

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] you spin me around...

2014-01-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v shape | v := RTView new. shape := RTRotatedLabel new. why you need separate class for 'rotated' label? i suppose you also need RTRotatedAndScaledLabel, RTRotatedAndScewedLabel .. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and

Re: [Pharo-dev] unload all

2014-01-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 19 Jan 2014, at 09:19, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, can you take care of your child? ;-) I'm not against making UserManager part of the kernel packages, or better only Monticello prerequisity. But we need to separate the UI part. Yes and the UI part is not

Re: [Pharo-dev] unload all

2014-01-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I guess that once we will use git it will go away. Does anybody know if this is a correct assmption? On 19 Jan 2014, at 10:10, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Very very nice! I integrate issue 12679. Yes, Monticello meta data… we should check this issue:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Displaying labels with Athens on Linux?

2014-01-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
For normal humans you do not convey the pain behind …. here is the answer I got from the two amigos igor and ronie that looked at the problem about the pain behind.. Stef, i'm not sure, maybe for those who not familiar with low-level debugging, the procedures look very scary and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on a Raspbian

2014-01-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+1 On 17 Jan 2014, at 23:12, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, to reduce the pain, i propose to introduce: NativeBoost isAvailable protocol. The implementation is simple, since primitiveIsEnabled fails only if it not exists (else it returns true or false), do a following:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on a Raspbian

2014-01-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
One of the problem we are thinking about now is the FFI on ARM (alien or not alien)…. On 17 January 2014 22:59, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Who is JB ? Jean Baptiste Arnaud. The invaluable asset in any team :) The hacker who without any help configuring compiling VM on

Re: [Pharo-dev] unload all

2014-01-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Excellent and impressive. Pavel did you publish it in SystemConfiguration? I would really like to see if we can add a unload protocol to the package manifest or configuration because it would be good to have the knowlegde modular. Stef Hi, I finally successfully created a script that is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo on a Raspbian

2014-01-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
JB? Soon in the blog close to you :) Hi, We compile the StackVM now for RaspberryPi based on a Raspbian os. In order to do that you have to: - get your image - prepare your RaspberryPi or your cross compile environment - and compile First step, the VMMaker image:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Two videos to explain what we do when integrating a fix.

2014-01-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
for Pharo, I can show you next week. On 16 Jan 2014, at 19:50, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote Can you retry? Huh, works now. Thanks :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Two-videos-to-explain-what-we-do

Re: [Pharo-dev] ScreencastMorph

2014-01-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sean did you try to create a new WorldMorph? Now one of the problem is that there is only one hand (global variable). In Bloc alain removed the ActiveHand and ActiveWorld globals. Stef On 16 Jan 2014, at 15:53, DeNigris Sean s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I'm working on a ScreencastMorph. The

Re: [Pharo-dev] Displaying labels with Athens on Linux?

2014-01-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
For normal humans you do not convey the pain behind …. here is the answer I got from the two amigos igor and ronie that looked at the problem We debugged in both machines at the same time. Installed some debug symbols, looking at the libpixman source code. Disassembling

Re: [Pharo-dev] Two videos to explain what we do when integrating a fix.

2014-01-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Stéphane Ducasse wrote http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Videos/PharoIntegration/integratingAChange.mov I can't access this video. At first the player opened, but wouldn't play. Now, I get a message: Nous avons détécté que votre adresse IP ouvrait trop de connexions vers notre serveur

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens SVG Import

2014-01-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi rick Thanks for your email :) This message is mainly for Igor, who probably already curses every time he sees my name on the development list. But, perhaps others have had some experience with this as well. No igor is not like that. He loves to see people using what he did and improving

[Pharo-dev] fixing the search in the MC browser would be sooooo cool

2014-01-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys if you want to help, the search (left) in the mCBrowser (once we do Open) is totally broken. It is a pain to look for packages when we have to check things. There is a bug entry (I od not remember its number). Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] fixing the search in the MC browser would be sooooo cool

2014-01-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this is totally bogus to me. Stef Hi Stef, what is the problem exactly? It seems to work as expected. Thierry Le 07/01/2014 09:53, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : Hi guys if you want to help, the search (left) in the mCBrowser (once we do Open) is totally broken. It is a pain to look for packages

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Two videos to explain what we do when integrating a fix.

2014-01-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks, Stef, I will have a look in the coming days. Now I won’t have many excuses not to try ;-) except a slow network :) I will add one of these days a rollback behavior because from home I get regular problems to be point I will simply stop even trying anymore. Stef

[Pharo-dev] how to add a user?

2014-01-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi I fixed the SwitchUser UI somehow (UserManager default was holding nil instead of a collection of users). Now SwitchUsers new usersManager: UserManager default; openWithSpec I get this widget but I have no idea if I should use it to add a new user and change its access

Re: [Pharo-dev] how to add a user?

2014-01-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
of information am i suppose to type in? Stef On 07 Jan 2014, at 18:28, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi I fixed the SwitchUser UI somehow (UserManager default was holding nil instead of a collection of users). Now SwitchUsers new usersManager: UserManager

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Concerts of Iron Maiden Analyzed

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
why cycle? just lines on the right connecting procedures. On 05 Jan 2014, at 22:46, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Having circles on the left or right hand side? Alexandre On Jan 5, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On 05 Jan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru do you have a sketch (UML) to see how it works? Because indeed having a pattern for the theme is definitively important and I’m sad that the same trick as the settings do not work for theme. Stef On 06 Jan 2014, at 00:19, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi again, I added a

Re: [Pharo-dev] could you try to run...

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Could you retry with the latest one? Because esteban spotted on a problem with amsjit Stef Interesting. Now I got this crash (see attachment) -- Pavel 2014/1/5 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Thanks pavel Previously it was crashing your vm. Really strange. Stef On 05

Re: [Pharo-dev] XMLParser Problem with SVG

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 06 Jan 2014, at 06:02, monty monty...@engineer.com wrote: Apparantly the config browser will load from your local package cache, which is why I wasn't getting errors. I tried from a different image with a clean package cache, and it loaded a much older version than you would get if you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I will read it. I do not like the UITheme. I was more interested by the pattern. Stef On 06 Jan 2014, at 10:59, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Doru do you have a sketch (UML) to see how it works? Because indeed having a pattern for the theme is definitively important

[Pharo-dev] Two videos to explain what we do when integrating a fix.

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I produced two videos to show how simple is an integration now (It could be better see below). This can influence some of you to help us: sven, ben, igor :)? First one: install some scripts http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Videos/PharoIntegration/DownloadingScripts.mov Second

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Glass] printString and asString

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+ 1 I need for example a string representation of objects generally to display in anchors in our seaside application. We have a class DomainObject from which most of our classes inherit, so this is probably the place to add a 'displayString' for something like this. Not necessarily domain

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I tried in latest 3.0 the example and I get a DNU error: 'Some code is setting text attributes length not matching the string size']. when I remove character. stef On 06 Jan 2014, at 00:19, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi again, I added a first shot at theming. The idea is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I tried in latest 3.0 the example and I get a DNU error: 'Some code is setting text attributes length not matching the string size']. when I remove character. stef On 06 Jan 2014, at 00:19, Tudor Girba tu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I read UITheme would act as a theme factory. and each widget delegate to the Themer associated to themselve and the current theme So subclasse of UITheme can propose different themer for the same widget. Now since the themer is a separate class (from the morph it means that you must have

[Pharo-dev] some questions about Object and Spec

2014-01-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi ben I was looking at Spec code and I wonder why we have these methods in Object? asWidget ^ self I do not get why any object could get a widget. isSpecAdapter ^ false since an adapter is a subclass of Morph why can we move it to morph? If in the future we have other

[Pharo-dev] about layers (spec and widgets)

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I’m trying to build a ridiculously simple browser to be able to edit code when nothing else works. So just a list of classes and methods. No more. Doing so I fixed some issues in NewList and got blocked in PluggableListMorph mess. Now I saw that NewList depends on Spec (because it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Concerts of Iron Maiden Analyzed

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
alex did you see the idea I send to use a nearly similar “linear” block based aligned on the left visualziaion to display procedural code? Stef On 05 Jan 2014, at 00:40, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Load Roassal to enjoy Dowser, a relational tower visualization. The

Re: [Pharo-dev] issue 12506 Vm crashes vm when testing updates [A-L]

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I tried to take the latest + latestVM and run my unreloader and now it never finishes but no crash. I have to investigate. Stef On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:37, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: But what of these changes

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
g one of this days we should write the “metacello compendium”, and create agreements in ways to do things :P + 1 I would love to have a list of metacello patterns. Stef On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I added a development version to

Re: [Pharo-dev] issue 12506 Vm crashes vm when testing updates [A-L]

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Marcus I could not get it crashed with the latest vm and latest image. Now I’m confident that on linux it should crash. Pavel? could you try? I will ask damien. Stef I tried to take the latest + latestVM and run my unreloader and now it never finishes but no crash. I have to investigate.

[Pharo-dev] could you try to run...

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
curl get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest | bash Load Unreloader latest from Pharo/SystemConfigurations Close all Nautilus save image :) run UnReloader new unload I’m curious know whether it crashes the VM. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] could you try to run...

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
: ‘’ OS X 10.9.1. The VM did not crash but I got a *lot* of debuggers (sample stack attached). Debugger-Stack-AnObsoleteNNavNavigation-2014-01-05-174431.fuel On 05.01.2014, at 17:29, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: curl get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest | bash Load Unreloader

Re: [Pharo-dev] could you try to run...

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/SystemConfigurations/main' user: '' password: ‘’ OS X 10.9.1. The VM did not crash but I got a *lot* of debuggers (sample stack attached). On 05.01.2014, at 17:29, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca

Re: [Pharo-dev] New in Graph-ET

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi daniele Usman is on holidays and I’m sure that he has some ideas. For me I do not really need animation. To me it is orthogonal I do not remember the feedback I gave you when I was visiting you now here is some: May be GraphET already does it if so ignore. - What would be good is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Help us to have really cool Pharo 3 release!

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 04 Jan 2014, at 11:17, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, As you know, we are now in beta for Pharo 3. That means we are just fixing bugs and improving stability (they are some attempts from some very impatient people to add yet new features, but so far we are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I want this widget :) and behavior On 04 Jan 2014, at 02:53, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I love the item count - thanks. I saw the double jump too, but the cause wasn't obvious. And I see what you mean about the arrows; I'll look into it. I'm really enjoying the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Glass] printString and asString

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
And number, no? For me as* methods are for conversion between types. E.i. if you have string and want it as Integer you use asInteger. no the point is exactly that :) conversion between polymorphic objects asFloat asInteger asFraction asString

Re: [Pharo-dev] Case 12494: Replace usage of TimeStamp with DateAndTime for methods stamps

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
hi sven I will have a look now may be it would wiser to keep that for 4.0 because I got burnt several times by this one :) Hi, Can somebody (else) please have a look at https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12494 (Replace usage of TimeStamp with DateAndTime for methods stamps) We

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange compilation error

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this looks like a problem in the new classbuilder stef On 04 Jan 2014, at 17:35, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I tried to do add a new instance variable to the UITheme class, and I get an Error: Should not happen related to how the originalScope is not the same as the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 04 Jan 2014, at 14:52, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Sean, I enjoy the collaboration, too. It is really nice to have this energy invested in making cool widgets. We would need more of this :). +1 I will try to look into the remaining issues, too. Let's continue

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
cool :) Stef On 04 Jan 2014, at 17:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I'm happy for now. As a general purpose completion option, I'd say we're officially at version 1.0. No obvious bugs, and provides the basic features I'd want. As for replacing the existing Spotlight, I've

Re: [Pharo-dev] Soundplugin for Windows/Linux

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks that you look at it. We should have more people taking care of the vm and plugin stef Can someone change PharoVM build configs regarding issue 12493 Sound does not work for Windows and Linux VMs because windows) PharoVMBuilder does not include soundplugin in the windows config

Re: [Pharo-dev] copyscript from squeaksource to smalltalkhub

2014-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi johan you have them in the gofer book chapter here are some that I tweak. Stef | go repo | go := Gofer new. repo := MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'Pharo30' user: 'StephaneDucasse' password: ''. go repository: repo. #('Nautilus' 'NautilusCommon'

Re: [Pharo-dev] Commit right to PharoInbox 3

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
done and thanks!!! On 03 Jan 2014, at 00:22, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I want to commit a slice. username: HilaireFernandes Thanks -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] printString and asString

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I liked this distinction between printString and displayString. It was removed probably because it was a mess :) Stef In my experience with Pharo and other Smalltalks as well: #printString is used for debugging, that's why the default implementation shows the class name. It's implemented

[Pharo-dev] out of scope for two weeks

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
hi guys my doc stopped me because I’m exhausted so see you in two weeks. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] printString and asString

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
So we don't have this in Pharo anymore. Looks like it is mostly asString now. But then, really, Object asString ^ self printString does not make sense? why not as a default? I never fully understood the intention of #asString other than to convert the object to the String

Re: [Pharo-dev] A DateAndTime that does not understand #date or #time?

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sebastian You should consider that often there were no decision: just old code designed sometimes even before Design Patterns and any of the book on oo design we know today. No more. Then the system grew organically, then we arrived and started to revisit but sometimes we did not see the

Re: [Pharo-dev] SIXX on large files

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 03 Jan 2014, at 21:07, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: It's probable unrelated to size as expected. For the record: I've changed the XMLParser how? I do not know if SIxx fixes the version of the XML parser it uses. and the new one complained about a problem

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Glass] printString and asString

2014-01-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I agree and especially on the fact that conversion methods should be between “polymorphic” objects else we end up having everything converted/able. this is why asOrderedCollection asBag… are all between collections. So a good proposal would be to understand if we can remove asString from

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 02 Jan 2014, at 11:48, Volkert Barr volk...@nivoba.de wrote: On 01.01.2014, at 19:26, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I understand that community support is needed, and yes i am willing to help. As a first step i can offer my help to test pharo features, help

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru You know well that Glamour has a component model that it not plain smalltalk model. So why are you telling me I do not know what? Now you also know that Glamour overuse blocks with multiple optional block arguments where the order is important. So I do not undersand why you are saying

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour vs Spec (was: towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger))

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
/connectors and propagation. Could you explain? (please note that I am not picking up a fight ok - I would just want to understand how people see these things) Doru On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Doru You know well

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue tracker] Help needed for reviews

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi sven We got an internal discussion on this topic with the same concerns. Komitter was pushed because it does not touch existing code and because people like mariano where starting to code it in parallel. So we thought it was important for people. The idea is that we have some bugs to fix

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
. Then go to the next one. And continue. For example, even you when is the last time that you submit a fix for Pharo? Stef Cheers, Doru On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Doru The point of marcus is that we cannot take into account

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best wishes for 2014

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Cheers, Alexandre On Dec 31, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi pharoers Sometimes I think that we are crazy to build this system but this is really important to have dreams and make them becoming true. :) I really like what we are doing: we

Re: [Pharo-dev] towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger)

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 01 Jan 2014, at 15:02, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: The point I apparently failed to make is that I miss the abstraction above the widget level. With Spec you have the same as in VisualWorks. You have applicationModel and you specify the logic that you can reuse with plain

Re: [Pharo-dev] Desktop Application with Pharo

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 01 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Damir Majer da...@majcon.de wrote: First of all, I wish all of you a happy new year 2014! I would like to develop my first Desktop Application with Pharo... What is with Pharo3.0 available/possible and should be used. Topics of interest are: Framework for GUI

Re: [Pharo-dev] Desktop Application with Pharo

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
ben developed a system to give a key to the user. What is it? this is a service that generate a key that you can give your client and the server checks if this is ok Ben should be flying to chile tomorrow (to the sun :). Stef -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

[Pharo-dev] new year resolution

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I’m fighting to get the old browser working so that I can continue to work on the reloading of configurations of tools. Now we should really stop to write comments like that for new classes ClassOrganization This object is in charge of system notifications. It manages

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I understand that community support is needed, and yes i am willing to help. As a first step i can offer my help to test pharo features, help to write test cases, write some example code snippets, open bug reports. But i am not sure what Pharo features or libraries i should put my focus

Re: [Pharo-dev] new year resolution

2014-01-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
at 6:55 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I’m fighting to get the old browser working so that I can continue to work on the reloading of configurations of tools. Now we should really stop to write comments like that for new classes ClassOrganization

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru The point of marcus is that we cannot take into account all wishes of everybody: else we would not do anything else. So if somebody thinks that something that is not in our critical path should be changed he should submit code. I have tons of ideas that could be implemented now since we

[Pharo-dev] Best wishes for 2014

2013-12-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi pharoers Sometimes I think that we are crazy to build this system but this is really important to have dreams and make them becoming true. :) I really like what we are doing: we are building a strong community and a really great system. Of course it could be better but it is going in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus: Selection and Drag Drop Redux

2013-12-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 31 Dec 2013, at 18:13, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote On 30 Dec 2013, at 01:55, Sean P. DeNigris lt; sean@ gt; wrote: Will that be used for Nautilus eventually? There is a bug entry. With a slice. I'm not sure what you mean. Sounds

Re: [Pharo-dev] towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger)

2013-12-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 31 Dec 2013, at 20:51, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Hi Doru, I like very much how easy it is to modify and adapt these tools. The higher abstraction level provided by Glamour really pays off here. In the past week I also looked at Nautilus, MCWorkingCopyBrowser and the

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
please don’t. Democracy does not make sense. Do you think that linus is taking into account democracy vote when fixing core of linux? Stef Since we can inject javascript in fogbugz, we should give a try to add a voting system :P Ben On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:12, Marcus Denker

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 image

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes I thought so too. Stef On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 29 Dec 2013, at 22:16, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, but I also remember a discussion of “now, sources should be always (and just there) with vm… or the opposite”…

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Nicolai, On 30 Dec 2013, at 13:26, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: for issue 12223 please revert the changes done for editing history in Nautilus. It makes more trouble than it helps. It is a nice feature, but it is implementation has too many side effects (discard changes

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:44, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the interface. I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664 Here is a list of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks we hope that you will help us taking what is good from python (I have a long list of good and bad but the problem is that our community is not large enough yet). Stef On 30 Dec 2013, at 16:03, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: We all appreciate when Pharo is useful. But it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
If Linus Torvald is your model, then I quit Pharo :P I will tell you stories where democracy in open-source does not work in feb. :P Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sounds really cool and yes the new ide guys wanted a widgets and behavior like that. How about to add Packages? I needed an entry completion with groups, like Mac's Spotlight. While I was at it, I figured it would also be useful as a UI for the existing Spotlight. So I made a

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Alex this is not the debugger this is the selection Have a look at issue 12144 load it and tell us. Now we have a problem of instability of the latest vm on our servers so the integration is stalled. I spent 3 hours yesterday trying to move on and we will rollback to an older VM. Stef On 30

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem while parsing xml

2013-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
. - Original Message - From: Stéphane Ducasse Sent: 12/28/13 05:15 AM To: monty Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] problem while parsing xml Thanks a lot I forwarded your mail. This makes me thinking that it would be great to have a little documentation of the XML ecosystem in Pharo. If you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus: Selection and Drag Drop Redux

2013-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
one of our problem is that the OS of the events are sometimes mapped to strange things like macRoman I do not what or simply ignored. This is on our todo to address that. Stef On 29 Dec 2013, at 18:29, Andreas Wacknitz a.wackn...@gmx.de wrote: Nicolai, I can confirm your problems as I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tanker and Pharo3

2013-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks Guillermo. I do not really know because what is cool is to be able to load the compiler without having the compiler. I know you want that :). Now with tanker we have the question of how to handle the binary (probably inside an mcz package) and managing the fact that the code can be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tagging #catalogContactInfo?

2013-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:27, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stef, Is there any format for defining #catalogContactInfo contents? For example ^ '[[Author:Walter White]] [[e-mail: bla...@bla.com]] [[website: http://www.www.www]]' Not really. but it could be good.

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo 3.0 image

2013-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I remember that we had an issue already with it and I thought it was fixed. Now it slipped my mind. On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:55, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: Right. So it works when I copy the sources file to where the vm is. I used to keep that together with image since it’s tied

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: problem while parsing xml

2013-12-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Begin forwarded message: From: monty monty...@engineer.com Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] problem while parsing xml Date: 28 Dec 2013 01:41:36 GMT+1 To: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Thanks for the CCs. I've identified the sources of the problem(s) and am working on it now

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