Re: [Pharo-dev] Losing instance variable addition

2013-10-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The problem is that control version system just save text not text and meta data because a package could have a class definition + in our case a instance variable addition object Now we just save text so this is why we are in trouble. Again this is a text-oriented diff way of the world and this

Re: [Pharo-dev] Losing instance variable addition

2013-10-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, if you remember, i already proposed how to solve 'extending object's state with arbitrary state' , mainly by changing the object format to support variable number of key-value properties per object. Similar to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-10-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
the pdf that I sent and that you can find on git hub https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english down down down at the bottom On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-31, at 18:27, Stéphane Ducasse

[Pharo-dev] Pharo presentation at Smalltalk 2013

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/2013smalltalksconference-pharo-is-yours Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Losing instance variable addition

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok in fact Gisela forked the AST-Core package to be able to load a new version with the instance variables. Because there is no way to say that a class definition modification is attached to a given package. Stef Apparently the problem is that gisela is adding instance variable to a class

Re: [Pharo-dev] About BitBlt current - BitBlt (Fuel)

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Fuel was using BitBlt current and I change that to BitBlt Stef On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Stef, what exactly is the influence on Fuel? I looked at the changes of your slice and couldn’t find anything… Max On 25.10.2013, at 16:26, Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: This makes sense. But I have 2 opinions: 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown? because we will have to patch it anyway because it is uncomplete (missing features for making decent book). 2)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
markdown misses a lot of features we need to write a book as you highlight in your next point. So I don't understand your question :-) If you want to write a comment and display it in Amber I don’t see why people have to learn a new markup language when there is markdown. Because you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I have nothing against pier syntax. But imagine person coming from outside, who used markdown to ask questions on stack overflow and write readmes on github, and here he has to use a different syntax for the same purpose. Just a thought about bringing new people into a community :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-10-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Well were are the books you wrote with this wonderful format? The only guy I can consider is sven. Why because he is writing real documentation. Now I'm confident that sevn could write in pier syntax because this is really close to markdown. What is missing is the immediate rendering of pier

Re: [Pharo-dev] Hungry Pharo

2013-10-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
A greater than, say, 1% base CPU load from an otherwise idle application would indicate that it's doing some busy waiting somewhere... in my Activity Monitor, I don't see too many processes doing that, so just using an ObjC framework doesn't seem to be the guilty part. By the way, very

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-23, at 16:06, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-23, at 13:48, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo-V20.sources

2013-10-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
we are preparing a completely new web site :) but we are going slowly because vm and all the rest….. Stef On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: Hey Sven, Thanks for these alternatives. I guess I’m an old-fashioned website user :-) cheers Johan On 25

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use #shouldnt:raise: only with specific errors, or evaluate the given expression directly

2013-10-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Phil I can tell you that we will do our best to help you. We deeply want that other people can build successes for Pharo. We could be better and the systsme could be better but we are focused on improving it while at the same time making sure that business can grow. So do not hesitate to let us

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I was not aware you were thinking about that. So this is good to have this path in my radar. Yes, this is actually what we discussed recently with Esteban about possible alternatives and low-hanging fruits :) I like these ones :) Concerning ARM: - Damien Pollet works on ARM

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue #11876 (Do not allow shouldnt:raise: Error) and Seaside dev. on Pharo 3.0

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
yes, people are not willing to change code all the time… We are willing to change the code where there is a clear benefit. For example it's hard to argue that the new filesystem is an improvement over FileDirectory. We have a partically working Spec based UI for the servers. We would

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue #11876 (Do not allow shouldnt:raise: Error) and Seaside dev. on Pharo 3.0

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx! On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: From the comments I think we can agree that it is a better to have a lint rule instead of breaking things the way it was introduced by the original issue #11876. I therefore opened an issue

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue #11876 (Do not allow shouldnt:raise: Error) and Seaside dev. on Pharo 3.0

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
With respect to Seaside (and its cross-platform-ness), this is probably a good decision, for now. But it is fundamentally unfair to call this an arbitrary unimportant change meant to annoy people. On the contrary ! I even think that there are too many methods in TAssertable and the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Startup Preferences: An Alternative

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this is what I do for the PharoTopics :) On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:17 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 October 2013 20:21, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: This is really cool, is that in the image already ? What about plain HTTP repos ? indeed, what could be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use #shouldnt:raise: only with specific errors, or evaluate the given expression directly

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
rant It's part of the Pharo manifesto: Not backward compatible /rant Levente I hope that writing this little pun created some jubilation to you. Or I do not understand your point. But this is ok for me. If pun on Pharo helps you then this is ok and they make me smile, and I'm serious If I

Re: [Pharo-dev] ensureCreateDirectory?

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
how hard it can be if two or more non-native speaker try to find something that makes sense. Norbert 2013/10/25 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Consistency ensureActionObject ensureCreateDirectory ensureCreateFile We discuss a lot with camillo when we did it and I think

Re: [Pharo-dev] ensureCreateDirectory?

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
instead of trusting the name, IMHO that is going to be a real problem. If the focus shall be on real problems, then why change APIs which are not a real problem? 2013/10/25 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr can we focus on real problems? The method has a comment. Stef On Oct 25

Re: [Pharo-dev] ensureCreateDirectory?

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
? 2013/10/25 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr can we focus on real problems? The method has a comment. Stef On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 25.10.2013 um 10:11 schrieb Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com: So

Re: [Pharo-dev] ensureCreateDirectory?

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
that. Norbert Am 25.10.2013 um 15:04 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: can we focus on real problems? The method has a comment. Stef On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 25.10.2013 um 10:11 schrieb Nicolas Cellier

[Pharo-dev] about Morphic-Core

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It looks cool :) Now I was wondering why Canvas and friends are part of it and not into Graphics Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4021f3: 30523

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Indeed I'm all in favor to have ConfigurationOf in the image because they are metaData of the packages and projects!!! I do not understand why UI concerns show up into structure of the system. I do not see why having a long list is a problem: there is a search behavior there is

[Pharo-dev] About BitBlt current - BitBlt (Fuel)

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi I just pushed a change cleaning some strange usage. BitBlt was sometimes invoked via BitBlt current (which just returned the BitBlt class). Apparently in Squeak they removed it too. Now it touches Fuel so Fuel guys can you merge on your side too?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unwind error during termination

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
If I remember correctly andreas wrote the tests. I always like them. Stef The author of the test is Andreas Raab, but I'm not sure who found it (excavating mailing list is hard work) 2013/10/25 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com On 25 October 2013 00:26, Nicolas Cellier

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use #shouldnt:raise: only with specific errors, or evaluate the given expression directly

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'm sorry if you guys didn't get my message, but it was as serious as it could be. Ok fair :) I understand that you don't what to be backwards compatible, because it makes it easier to change stuff. As I see, people need various levels of backwards compatibility. Indeed but the right

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30525

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
30525 - - Issue: 12009 BitBlt current - BitBlt https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12009/BitBlt-current-BitBlt - Issue: 12013: Zinc Character Encoding and Resource Meta update https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12013/ - Issue: 12014 Extract History from

Re: [Pharo-dev] AspectS, PHANtom - Aspects in Pharo

2013-10-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Not really and frankly I would not use that. What is your case? Stef Hello, I was wondering what the state of Aspect programming was in Pharo. Googling a bit turned the title mentioned projects. Do we anything loadable and more or less stable for Pharo2.x? I'd like to use some of

[Pharo-dev] ZnEasy and https?

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
hi sven I would like to fetch a file stored on github ZnEasy client url: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics.st'; get; response Else I tried to read zodiac code but I missed some examples. I tried to read

Re: [Pharo-dev] The new fogbugz mails look nice :)

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
where? I want to see it and get brainwashed and start fixing bugs :) Stef On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: that would be cool ;) Ben On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: One would almost start fixing

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
people that do not think like you? Stef On 2013-10-22, at 08:38, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I changed the readme to be Pharo 3.0 Update Files == This repository contains a collection of the updates files used for the system-updates

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org. This is what should be written in the readme. BTW have you tried that you actually have

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote: I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy development and that I

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZnEasy and https?

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
, at 10:46, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: hi sven I would like to fetch a file stored on github ZnEasy client url: 'https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics.st'; get; response Else I tried

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30516

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The update mails from 30511 - 30515 seem to be missing, or is it just me ? Is there another place to see the same information ? Yes, the commit mail from Git. Normally I don't send this mail anymore. OK, I guess it is all a lot of work, but they were a very useful summary. the

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZnEasy and https?

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
, in the first case the response object, in the second case the actual contents. Look for users of ZnClient in the system and tests for tons of examples. HTH, Sven On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:46, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: hi sven I would like to fetch a file stored

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: (i am not fully understood what happens there, but here some thought which might be useful). thanks this is simple. Merging a dirty package always ask the user if it wants to proceed. Now I catch the exception and proceed.

[Pharo-dev] migrated flotr rom SqueakSource to Smalltalkhub/PharoExtras

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
migrated flotr rom SqueakSource to Smalltalkhub/PharoExtras So let me know if it works. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org. This is what should be written in the readme

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Igor it also means that we should find a way to get nativeboost wroking on iPad (probably by generating a DLL from NB). aha.. and digitally sign it before you can use it.. and then ask nicely Apple to approve it :) Yes :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM for Athens Graphics

2013-10-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Well implementing ARM-FFI is largely orthogonal to Athens. Yes, i am happily using it for Cairo and it lets me customize /rethink things as they go without need to touch VM. Which means much faster development process and feedback etc. But since Athens API is settled down more or

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-21, at 22:30, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: It is fundamentally wrong to rely on written description of processes (not to be confused with documentation). We script, we write code, we do

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Indeed but instead of getting on your favorite topic, tell me where is the update.list? on the server files.pharo.org I do

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I changed the readme to be Pharo 3.0 Update Files == This repository contains a collection of the updates files used for the system-updates of Pharo 3.0. The files are made available on the [file server](http://files.pharo.org/updates/pharo3.0/). The

Re: [Pharo-dev] Use #shouldnt:raise: only with specific errors, or evaluate the given expression directly

2013-10-22 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I will add a discussion to the SUnit Chapter about this point. Stef On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: see my long explanation here https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11876#87218 it looks unsuspicous until the moment you try understand such a failing

Re: [Pharo-dev] SuperCollider on Pharo [was: realtime]

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
There is a configurationOfOSC on smalltalkHub. It is published and available via the configuration browser. No need to use this old link. On Oct 21, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Paul Davidowitz pdavi...@fastmail.fm wrote: SqueakMap for OSC

Re: [Pharo-dev] Character#leadingChar

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I would love to see some effort cleaning this part (removing the leading char) and using Unicode. It will simplify a lot from what I understand. Who would like to think about a roadmap and share some effort? Stef On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Henrik Johansen

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Class AthensCairoSurface missing in Athens Version 2.5?

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Moose is in Pharo 20! Igor is talking about Pharo30 Stef On Oct 21, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Not sure whether I do the right thing. In a fresh Moose image, I doit: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Athens'; package:

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-10-21 until: 2013-10-31

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS ### What's next, until 2013-10-31 (*): Got stuck on - log System (should add filtering + release it + doc) -

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: What happened with those updates? there was a problem because the packages were dirty and we got a popup on the server…. so we could not integrate simply their saved versions. Why are there no images? see above. I

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
probably But there is no documentation (except what I wrote in ScriptLoader comment), so I cannot guess. I just don't like that all of a sudden things go wild without an announcement, what is going wild? and by chance I detect it, since I monitor all channels... We really need to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Character#leadingChar

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
What would be the possible steps? Stef On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Phil, On 21 Oct 2013, at 21:09, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Well, for one, removing leadingChar will make the urlEncode/urlDecode work properly for the test,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30510

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 21, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: humm strange I see only one change for this update? https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/cf142b12a098df4f650c4c9a72c7d6234dece177 any clue what the other change was? most probably there is a bug in

Re: [Pharo-dev] missing updates: 30503 30504

2013-10-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It is fundamentally wrong to rely on written description of processes (not to be confused with documentation). We script, we write code, we do not read prose. Sorry but the integration requires human intervention at least to make sure we do not merge bullshits or checking conflicts just

Re: [Pharo-dev] introduce Morphic-Core package

2013-10-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
project we know it is possible. Then we will split the next Morphic parts like text rendering. Cheers, -- Pavel 2013/10/19 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Ok I will have a look when I'm done with the color integration (I thank again fernando for leaving like that. Basically I had

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30505

2013-10-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Finally :) Stef 30505 - 11519 Merge Color and Translucent Color - post publication https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11519 11951 Cannot access in text editors to temporaries in context inspectors. Thanks Clement Bera https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11951

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a Roadmap for Pharo 3.0 and Pharo 4.0

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
marcus I went up to chpater 4 I guess then my hd crashed On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:32 AM, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Stef, A few weeks back I had occasion to review the Pharo Vision document again. In the

Re: [Pharo-dev] introduce Morphic-Core package

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I will have a look when I'm done with the color integration (I thank again fernando for leaving like that. Basically I had to redo everything :)). Stef Hi, I created a slice that moves the most basic Morphic classes to the new package named Morphic-Core. If we want to integrate it, it

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Time machine is wonderful for this… But i was not backuping applications so I had to reinstall them. :) Alexandre On Oct 17, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: so backup

Re: [Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
in one way: you don't loose time trying to recover stuff, you know it's dead :( Indeed :) Stef Thierry Le 17/10/2013 23:10, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : so backup your machine… because mine was still working at 8h this morning and 8h40 dropped dead -- Thierry Goubier CEA list

Re: [Pharo-dev] Commit rights to Pharo30Inbox

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx! On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Attila Magyar m.magy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I want to submit a SLICE to the pharo inbox, can you grant me commit rights? username: zeroflag thanks!

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30502

2013-10-19 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
30502 - 11947 Added stackTop and Removed class in the debugger stack inspector. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11947 11519 Merge Color and Translucent Color. Thanks Luc Fabresse for the last part! https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11519 Diff information:

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30501

2013-10-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
30501 - - Issue 11948 Finally really sorting the methods in the FileContentsBrowser https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11948 - Issue 11519 Merge Color and Translucent Color https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11519 Diff information:

[Pharo-dev] recovering from a deep disc crash….

2013-10-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so backup your machine… because mine was still working at 8h this morning and 8h40 dropped dead

Re: [Pharo-dev] about your heated discussion on fonts from stef Ze wize and busy man

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
-2013 à 16:46, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr a écrit : Hi guys Two points: - I'm sorry I got too busy to read the thread - when I have time for pharo I'm fighting with removing translucentColor and it explode my image. I'm working on too many fronts and must close

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
please note that the re is a little undo frameworks made by alain plantec in the image. I think that phil is refeergin to paragraph and textEditor not undo/redo Stef On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:02 AM, b...@openinworld.com wrote: I guess Phil is referring to the difficulties of the current undo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a Roadmap for Pharo 3.0 and Pharo 4.0

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks I will have a look :) Stef On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:31 AM, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: the problem with this is that we do not have a clear roadmap for Pharo4 (yet). How it works now is: at the beginning of a year iteration we make a list of what we want

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old Compiler is now unload able!

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This opens a wide range of improvements. The future will be bright :). Thanks clement, camillo and marcus for this effort. Opal + slots will be really sexy. Stef Bravo! Thierry Le 16/10/2013 11:15, Marcus Denker a écrit : Hi, You can now do: ScriptLoader new unloadPackageNamed:

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
. Cheers Alain Le 16 oct. 2013 à 11:14, plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com a écrit : Le 16 oct. 2013 à 08:07, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com a écrit : Undo framework? Where to see it? what the package name? It is System-History Cheers Alain 2013/10/16 Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
a écrit : Undo framework? Where to see it? what the package name? It is System-History Cheers Alain 2013/10/16 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr please note that the re is a little undo frameworks made by alain plantec in the image. I think that phil is refeergin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old Compiler is now unload able!

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
and highly undervalued work towards a goal set essentially from the very beginning of Pharo. It might not appear glamorous, but it certainly is a cornerstone. It is precisely this type of work that places Pharo in a land of its own. Doru On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
? Where to see it? what the package name? It is System-History Cheers Alain 2013/10/16 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr please note that the re is a little undo frameworks made by alain plantec in the image. I think that phil is refeergin to paragraph and textEditor not undo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Outdated Bug [7245] Autocomplete highlighting out of sync w editor after partial match

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
We would love that somebody have a look and make this working really well. So if somebody wants to have a look. This is a kind of work that we want to do in Pharo 40: better tools Stef An additional problem is referring to old identifiers that are no longer in the image. 1. Upack fresh

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText status (was Re: bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated] )

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
read the design pattern smalltalk companion book there is a undo/redo based on iterator and command. On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:46 PM, dimitris chloupis theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: sounds fun. I would love to see an undo system that does not make my head explode and do I dare say with some

[Pharo-dev] Color is strange

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I wonder if this is me that miss something important… but here is what I did: ColorprintOn: aStream | name | Transcript show:'x'. (name := self name) ifNotNil: [ ^ aStream nextPutAll: 'Color ';

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color is strange

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I did it but my image went slugish. On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: haltOnce :) On 2013-10-16, at 16:53, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: put a halt XD Ben On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] MorpgTreeMorph enable/disable?

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks Alain Esteban is enhancing Nautilus with some nice features and KILLING PackageInfo Stef On Oct 16, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com wrote: done. a slice is in inbox Cheers Alain On 15 oct. 2013, at 20:14, plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old Compiler is now unload able!

2013-10-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Too bad :( One of the most brilliant anti-pattern onto which I burnt so many brain cells is gone, how are we going to teach good coding practices by counter examples. ;) :) We should continue to build the new generation it is more exciting and now I can start to invest in reading the

Re: [Pharo-dev] serializing and materializing MSE files with the Fame meta-engine

2013-10-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
doru may be we should clean the code of metabrowser because I thought (during a lecture that it contains dead code). On Oct 13, 2013, at 11:40 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I put together a short description/tutorial on using Fame for serialization and materialization of

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30484

2013-10-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
30484 - issue 11867: GrowlEnhancements so that we can see the text when Sunit is running https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11867 issue 11866 More Degenerated Rectangle fixed https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11866 issue 11519

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a Roadmap for Pharo 3.0 and Pharo 4.0

2013-10-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:43 AM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I really like the idea of roadmap. In an open source project people are free to work in anything they like , even bring new nice features of their design as long as they don't disturb the existing code. But the same people,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a Roadmap for Pharo 3.0 and Pharo 4.0

2013-10-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The problem is that I think we already did a lot of that vision. We need a new one. I wish all our problems were like this one :-) :) me too

Re: [Pharo-dev] MorpgTreeMorph enable/disable?

2013-10-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thank alain. Stef On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:14 PM, plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Esteban, Le 15 oct. 2013 à 18:30, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, I'm working with MorphTreeMorph and I need to toggle enable/disable... and as far as I see is not

[Pharo-dev] about your heated discussion on fonts from stef Ze wize and busy man

2013-10-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys Two points: - I'm sorry I got too busy to read the thread - when I have time for pharo I'm fighting with removing translucentColor and it explode my image. I'm working on too many fronts and must close and finish some of my tasks (admininistration/team management

[Pharo-dev] when I dropped a CS on pharo 30 I get

2013-10-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
classReorganized: anAnnouncement window ifNil: [ ^ self ]. window isDisplayed ifFalse: [ ^ self ]. (self selectedClass = anAnnouncement classReorganized or: [ anAnnouncement classReorganized users includes: self selectedClass ])

Re: [Pharo-dev] when I dropped a CS on pharo 30 I get

2013-10-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I fixed it and I will produce a bug entry + slice On Oct 13, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: classReorganized: anAnnouncement window ifNil: [ ^ self ]. window isDisplayed ifFalse: [ ^ self ]. (self selectedClass = anAnnouncement

Re: [Pharo-dev] bug: [4993] Typing cmd+L cancel all typing and we can't undo it [Terminated]

2013-10-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 13, 2013, at 1:08 PM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: This is my first pharo bug fix so be gentle :D Great! We love contributions. Stef https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4993/Typing-cmd-L-cancel-all-typing-and-we-can-t-undo-it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocketry problems in 3.0

2013-10-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
As Markus said it is good idea to add #argumentNames to block. What exactly you want to see at TxText? I ask because Igor make big progress on his design implementation which I think will replace my work totally. So if you want to join his development you don't need my code at all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocketry problems in 3.0

2013-10-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: As Markus said it is good idea to add #argumentNames to block. What exactly you want to see at TxText? I ask because Igor make big progress on his design implementation which I think will replace my work totally.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocketry problems in 3.0

2013-10-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I cannot check now (running to breakfast :)) but you should load the latest development version. I used this one: Gofer it url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/sig/TxText/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfTxText'; load. ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTxText) project version: '1.0')

Re: [Pharo-dev] permission denied http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30Inbox/main ?

2013-10-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
nicolas should push a change to Smalltalkhub so that people can publish freely in inbox On Oct 12, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras vonbecm...@gmail.com wrote: Could someone give permission to submit a slice, please? My username is vonbecmann. Thanks. -- Bernardo E.C.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Start with a trivial improvement!

2013-10-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:22 PM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: This is something I was contemplating lately for my project Ephestos. The problem I see with your approach is that it takes a long time to see those changes integrated into Pharo cause AFAIK there are not many people to check out

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: Please contributors fill up this form...

2013-10-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx Begin forwarded message: From: Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Please contributors fill up this form... Date: October 9, 2013 11:14:59 PM GMT+02:00 To: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr PharoContributor new name: 'Eliot Miranda

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: Please contributors fill up this form...

2013-10-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Begin forwarded message: From: Guido Chari cha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Please contributors fill up this form... Date: October 9, 2013 8:18:23 PM GMT+02:00 To: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr PharoContributor new name: 'Guido Chari

[Pharo-dev] CheckBoxModel DNU widthToDisplayInList

2013-10-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys When I want to extract a method I get CheckBoxModel DNU widthToDisplayInList in 30467 heightToDisplayInList: is also missing https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11838/CheckBoxModel-DNU-widthToDisplayInList hUnadjustedScrollRange Ok, this is a bit messed up. We need to return the

Re: [Pharo-dev] ShortRunArray not in Pharo 3.0 anymore, leading to problems with FFI-Kernel-tbn.25

2013-10-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: philippeback wrote It is too complex for me to get things loaded in 3.0 and be delivering what we need to, so I am back to 2.0 now. I think that's the right decision even if you could get it loaded. I wouldn't

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Image Command Line Handlers

2013-10-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent I will update the StartUp script chapter (except if somebody wants to do it). On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: We (Cami, Ben, and I) added some command line options to control preference loading, which seem useful e.g. for integrators and in

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