Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2018-01-06 Thread Ben Coman
On 24 December 2017 at 00:58, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. > Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever you want. > > Of course, this

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2018-01-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 24 December 2017 at 00:58, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. > Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever you want. > > Of course, this

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2018-01-02 Thread Petr Fischer
- stability - bloc - some sort of pretty cool and fast concurrent transactional object persistence :) > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. > Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-31 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx Stephan I have too many dreams :) so I will have to prioritize but let's the first three :). Stef On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Esteban Lorenzano > wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> This looks like a good moment of the year

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-31 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would > you want to see in Pharo next year. I wish you all the time and good health to realize some of your Pharo dreams Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Me too :) > On 30 Dec 2017, at 15:51, Holger Freyther wrote: > > >> On 30. Dec 2017, at 20:13, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Hey! > > >> - working SSL on newer distributions > > related to that I would love a working VM release process. > > - Tag

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-30 Thread Holger Freyther
> On 30. Dec 2017, at 20:13, Norbert Hartl wrote: Hey! > - working SSL on newer distributions related to that I would love a working VM release process. - Tag releases of the stable VM - Be able to take release X.Y and release X.Y+1 with a single bugfix

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
nice list :) > On 30 Dec 2017, at 13:13, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > My list would be in order of importance: > > - stable 64bit vm > - mature iceberg plus dependent tools > - no endless loop in debugging anymore aka real stoppable computation > - bootstrap aka small image > -

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-29 Thread philippe.b...@highoctane.be
On Dec 29, 2017 02:48, "Pierce Ng" wrote: On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 04:41:56PM +0100, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > I also forgot: a real headless :) And real "embeddability". :-) I'll write GUIs with Pascal/Lazarus if I must. That would actually suit me very well too.

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-28 Thread Pierce Ng
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 04:41:56PM +0100, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > I also forgot: a real headless :) And real "embeddability". :-) I'll write GUIs with Pascal/Lazarus if I must. Being able to implement domain logic stuff in Pharo embedded into the application will super charge productivity.

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-27 Thread Bernhard Pieber
Hi Esteban, Thanks for asking. My one and only wish is more stability for the stable version, i.e. bug fixes for Pharo 6, especially the VMs but also the image. Thanks for Pharo! Cheers, Bernhard > Am 23.12.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : > > Hi everybody, >

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-27 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
On 12/23/2017 06:57 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > On 12/23/2017 05:58 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> > > Hi :) > >> This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you >> want to see in Pharo next year. >> Features, improvements, radical changes,

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Evan yes thierry was discussing with clement and we will see :). Stef On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Evan Donahue wrote: > Given the recent stirrings of AI-related applications in Pharo, I guess I'm > wishing for vm support for vector operations/fast math. I heard

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes saw and my second answer took that into account. We were discussing about making sure that we can write applications vs. code. We should be able to package an application. The experience accumulated with the launcher and the effort on making Pharo silent (not forcing to write everywhere files)

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Ben Coman
On 25 December 2017 at 22:58, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt > > for Pharo: > > > > http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread serge . stinckwich
Yes we talk about something like that with Clément some months ago. Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 25 déc. 2017 à 20:29, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : > > >> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> A GUI builder is always a nice thing ...

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM Torsten Bergmann wrote: > A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt > for Pharo: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/ > > Now marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk. > That

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Hilaire
I don't understand your question Le 25/12/2017 à 15:57, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : C. Develop a white board application, easy to extend to add third party features. The OpenBoard[2] we are using in school are merely goods (can't get the right tooling to do geometry for example), handwriting is

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Evan Donahue
Given the recent stirrings of AI-related applications in Pharo, I guess I'm wishing for vm support for vector operations/fast math. I heard something about that a while ago on the polymath chanel, so I figure it can't hurt to wish. Evan -- Sent from:

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Hilaire
I really don't mean a GUI builder :-) Le 25/12/2017 à 15:57, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : 4. application builder. Smalltalk/X has a GUI to build a standalone application, was not able to get it working, but it probably worked at some time in the past (see screenshot). Such a feature in Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Hilaire
In case of, at wish 4. I did not write a GUI builder but really an application builder: a tool to let you build up the image and the needed VMs, and pack it appropriately for the end user. As it is manually done for Dr.Geo. Le 25/12/2017 à 14:17, Torsten Bergmann a écrit : A GUI builder is

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
>> - good and stable standardized widget set (maybe solved with Brick) >> - then place a UI builder on top of it >> >> Bye >> T. >> >>> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Dezember 2017 um 12:33 Uhr >>> Von: Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu> >>> An: pharo-de

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ce a UI builder on top of it > > Bye > T. > >> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Dezember 2017 um 12:33 Uhr >> Von: Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu> >> An: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org >> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ? >> >> Oh, you asked for that E

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> 1. stability > > 2. Tonel is a nice way to export file (its granularity is just right, bravo > Esteban!) and commit to arbitrary repository, experimenting it with DrGeo, > and it is nice to commit code[1] along other data files of the project > (graphics, doc, translation, etc.). Got some an

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi hilaire what is nice is that we have most of the same wishes ;) On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Oh, you asked for that Esteban :) > > 1. stability > > 2. Tonel is a nice way to export file (its granularity is just right, bravo > Esteban!) and commit to

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Torsten Bergmann
UI builder on top of it Bye T. > Gesendet: Montag, 25. Dezember 2017 um 12:33 Uhr > Von: Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu> > An: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ? > > Oh, you asked for that Esteban :) > > 1. stability > &

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-25 Thread Hilaire
Oh, you asked for that Esteban :) 1. stability 2. Tonel is a nice way to export file (its granularity is just right, bravo Esteban!) and commit to arbitrary repository, experimenting it with DrGeo, and it is nice to commit code[1] along other data files of the project (graphics, doc,

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-24 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
For me 100% bootstrap and anything that helps me minimize the image or completely get rid of it. Second place is a GUI designer. Third place, world peace. Santa hates me :D On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 8:14 PM Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi. > > Not blocking FFI, please > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-24 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi. Not blocking FFI, please 2017-12-23 17:58 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. > Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever you want. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-24 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Esteban, - https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pull/142 Thanks! Alistair On 23 December 2017 at 17:58, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-24 Thread Torsten Bergmann
lt;pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ? > > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. > Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever you

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-23 Thread Alexandre Bergel
My four wishes, in no particular order: - Better code completion - Git in Pharo as easy as using Git for other languages - Bloc on Steroid - Being able to interrupt any process and endless loop using Cmd-. Merry Christmas to all of you! Alexandre > On Dec 23,

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-23 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
CyrilFerlicot wrote > - To be able to depend on a git project from a private server/ * > repo * > in > BaselineOf/ConfigurationOf * > and automatically clone using SSH keys if needed * (Additions to above in bold) > STABILITY Of course! I've been dreaming of most of the rest of my wishlist

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sounds like a good wish list! > On 23 Dec 2017, at 20:33, Robert Pergl wrote: > > Dear Santa, > > this is what I wish for Pharo in 2018: > > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY > - STABILITY >

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-23 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
On 12/23/2017 05:58 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi everybody, > Hi :) > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you > want to see in Pharo next year. > Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever you want. > I'll list the things I wanted the

[Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

2017-12-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi everybody, This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would you want to see in Pharo next year. Features, improvements, radical changes, etc…. whatever you want. Of course, this list will not be a roadmap and it does not means we will implement all of it (as always,