In ruby world the tools I like most for TDD are:
- autotest: when you save a file, autotest detects it are run automatically
associated unit tests.
http://ph7spot.com/musings/getting-started-with-autotest. For PHPUnit
there's a light autotest-like http://gist.github.com/287950. I really like
it as
finishing something is always taking time and this is great to see you making
progress on that front.
For the PhD it could be full time job to sell that.
Did you identify potential research group?
Stef
> Douglas Brebner wrote:
>> On 02/06/2010 12:43, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>
what is important for me is that we distinguish what is related to the UI flow
from the loading of a specific
tests libraries.
RIght now I would like to concentrate on UI flow and tools interaction.
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
>
> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>
do you happen to know tim mckinnon?
Stef
On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:13 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
> I use Mockery - my implementation SSpec idies. It is realy more powerfull,
> transparency and flexibility.
>
> With Mockery you dont need any special base classes for TestCases or mocks
> factory v
On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
>
> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>> Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform
>> for doing TDD.
>> What would be the changes that we could do support it.
>>
>
> Coming from Ruby, it seemed like BDD was taki
On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Germán Leiva wrote:
> I'm thinking out load here ...
>
> In the debugger when a DNU is raised, for speeding up the programming in "TDD
> mode":
> • The create button must add the method in the class of the receiver,
> the possibility to choose a superclass of
there is a key point in all this thread.
we are not against ideas.
We loved etoys and I did more presentations about it than probably 95%
of the squeakers population
now we do not like its implementation because it hurts us.
Same for projects. Simple.
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010
Douglas Brebner wrote:
On 02/06/2010 12:43, Juan Vuletich wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm new to this list, but many of you already know me.
Morphic 3 is a deep redesign of the Morphic framework. It includes
new rendering algorithms I developed that produce unparalleled visual
quality. Really. This is
Thanks for clarifying your goals w.r.t. introducing the timeout. I
think that's important because, as I've said, legacy tests that live
in external packages are affected.
I read your whole note a few times, and one part in particular stuck
out to me as a potentially useful use-case for test-case
I use Mockery - my implementation SSpec idies. It is realy more powerfull,
transparency and flexibility.
With Mockery you dont need any special base classes for TestCases or mocks
factory variables in code. You just use mocks where you want by Block
creation scenarios:
[:mock |
[sut doWith: moc
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform
> for doing TDD.
> What would be the changes that we could do support it.
>
Coming from Ruby, it seemed like BDD was taking over the world, and was the
next step in TDD evolution, but I found
>I have never been able to distinguish my workplace from home. I therefore have
>just one place, where I both live and work. Instead, I frequently change
>countries.
>Just (half) kidding ;-)
lol!
It seems like I (and the OP?) maybe never really "got" projects, and so never
experienced the dar
I'm thinking out load here ...
In the debugger when a DNU is raised, for speeding up the programming in *"TDD
mode"**:*
- The create button must add the method in the class of the receiver, the
possibility to choose a superclass of the receiver must be optional (I don't
like the recurren
The problems that I would like to see Pharo address are:
- redundancies in unit tests
- coverage of tests
- classification of low and high levels of tests (implementation tests vs
user stories)
What are the tools to identify and solve this issues ? Research is needed :-)
Alexandre
On 2
Today's debugger (and all pharo indeed), is extremely dependant on the
mouse... I would love to do all the same with just the keyboard :(
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform
> for doing TD
Unfortunately the customer cancelled the project (He selected an
automation solution
using ActiveX, but automating the IE. My proposal was talking directly with the
http server and make a service and so, but wellare the business :) ).
Anyway I got very interested by this topic and will try to
Woah, cool. ^^
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Douglas Brebner
wrote:
> On 02/06/2010 12:43, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I'm new to this list, but many of you already know me.
>>
>> Morphic 3 is a deep redesign of the Morphic framework. It includes new
>> rendering algorithms I dev
I have never been able to distinguish my workplace from home. I therefore have
just one place, where I both live and work. Instead, I frequently change
countries.
Just (half) kidding ;-)
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 2 Jun 2010, at 15:54, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> hehe, I never use Spaces in OS X. The
hehe, I never use Spaces in OS X. They don't work for me (often, windows open
in the wrong space and hence I quickly mess up and it just gets annoying
because I don't find what I am looking for).
Instead, I use multiple machines!
just kidding ;)
cu on Saturday at the sprint,
Adrian
On Jun 2,
Hello,
We are extremely happy to announce version 4.0 of the Moose Suite:
http://moosetechnology.org/download
This is the first fully open source release of Moose: it is based on
Pharo 1.0 (released under MIT), and all its components are available
under a BSD or MIT license.
WHAT'S NEW
C
+1
Images are projects, I'm agree with that. But having multiple worlds is like
having a multiple desktop layout. Why are them in Mac and Linux? Because
it's useful.
Cheers,
Mariano.
2010/6/2 Denis Kudriashov
> 2010/6/2 Schwab,Wilhelm K
>>
>> I think you are missing the OP's point. The goa
I hope :)
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just created a ConfigurationOfScamper using
> MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial (see
> http://code.google.com/p/metacello/) in ProfStefBrowser, it's really funny.
>
> Can MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial
Hi all
Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform for
doing TDD.
What would be the changes that we could do support it.
I know that hernan did a package for that but not I would like to have a new
list of items
to support it.
Stef
laurent laffont wrote:
Hi,
I've just created a ConfigurationOfScamper using
MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial (see http://code.google.com/p/metacello/)
in ProfStefBrowser, it's really funny.
Can MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial be included in Pharo (Dev) 1.1 ?
Cheers,
Laurent Laffont
>
> 2010/6/2 Schwab,Wilhelm K
> I think you are missing the OP's point. The goal (unless I am missing
> something) is to have a way to open say four browsers on specific classes
> and methods and maybe a workspace or two to work on one particular
> project/task, and to do the same for other tasks
Hi,
I've just created a ConfigurationOfScamper
using MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial (see
http://code.google.com/p/metacello/) in ProfStefBrowser, it's really funny.
Can MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial be included in Pharo (Dev) 1.1 ?
Cheers,
Laurent Laffont
http://pharocasts.blogspo
On 02/06/2010 12:43, Juan Vuletich wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm new to this list, but many of you already know me.
Morphic 3 is a deep redesign of the Morphic framework. It includes new
rendering algorithms I developed that produce unparalleled visual
quality. Really. This is the best 2d rendering in
On 6/2/2010 3:30 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
I was just going to say the same. I have tons of images. Just duplicate an
image and you have a new project. No need for a brittle mechanism inside the
image.
Cheers,
Adrian
Same here, images are projects. I never liked the squeak project mechanis
I will, after the Sprint of this weekend. I already asked Stef to generate a
PharoCore 1.1 beta2 at the end of the Sprint. After that, I will produce a
PharoDev on top of that ;)
Cheers
Mariano
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Alexandre Bergel
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Can we get a new version of Pharo
>
>> Projects as described might be similar to Dolphin's IdeaSpace. For whatever
>> reason, I never liked them very much, so I am not the best person to
>> comment.
>
> I share with Bill that I never use IdeaSpaces in Dolphin. However, IdeaSpaces
> are very different from Squeak projects as
> The only thing I use projects for is to separate the different tasks I am
> working on at the same time (like spaces on the Mac), so I can have one
> world where I'm working on a client project, and a whole other world if I...
Yep, thank you Sean - this more or less nails it. Squeak projects are
Actually, this is beyond cool :)
Doru
On 2 Jun 2010, at 17:42, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi Juan,
This is __really__ cool.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 2 Jun 2010, at 08:16, Juan Vuletich wrote:
Lukas Renggli wrote:
Hi Juan,
This looks really exiting!
How do you get the actual pixels drawn? Is
Hi!
Can we get a new version of Pharo 1.1 based on the latest core?
I can produce it if necessary.
Cheers,
Alexandre
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Hi Juan,
This is __really__ cool.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 2 Jun 2010, at 08:16, Juan Vuletich wrote:
> Lukas Renggli wrote:
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> This looks really exiting!
>>
>> How do you get the actual pixels drawn? Is this implemented in
>> Smalltalk? Did you write primitives to do that? Are yo
Please :)
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010, at 4:15 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
> Ok do you give a try?
>
> Just say "please" :D
>
> Laurent
>
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I think you are missing the OP's point. The goal (unless I am missing
something) is to have a way to open say four browsers on specific classes and
methods and maybe a workspace or two to work on one particular project/task,
and to do the same for other tasks. All of this stuff would remain re
Projects as described might be similar to Dolphin's IdeaSpace. For whatever
reason, I never liked them very much, so I am not the best person to comment.
What I found most effective was to have filters on browsers so they would show
me only subsets of the image and were easily launched from a
I guess a project in an image-based system is not always easily defined.
What is a project exactly? Is it a morphic application, a
seaside/AIDAWeb/Iliad based web app, a new framework, a shared component?
Which part of the image needs to be "in the project"?
Maybe I am wrong here but with the
Cool!
Noury
On 1 juin 2010, at 22:10, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I produced a new version which now display more information.
>
> Feedback are welcome
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
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On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
wrote:
> Ok do you give a try?
>
Just say "please" :D
Laurent
>
> Stef
>
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 1:52 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:
> > For me I'm open to a
> Some news (sources at www.squeaksource.com/Athens):
>
> About having a first 'minimal' version, working with RomePluginCanvas and
> RomeReferenceCanvas, it seems to be ok.
> I retrieve the tests from Sophie and all are green.
> In romeDemo, I made a category with some working examples (using
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> to do what?
> which one exactly?
>
The only thing I use projects for is to separate the different tasks I am
working on at the same time (like spaces on the Mac), so I can have one
world where I'm working on a client project, and a whole other world if I
find a bug
Ok do you give a try?
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010, at 1:52 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
> For me I'm open to a lot of suggestions but at the end of the day is who can
> do it.
>
> A way is to have weekly news rather than monthly, it's shorte
We can also be more rigorous about asking user questions on the user list. I
wonder what the difference is between these and Squeak-dev/beginner, which
seem to be more balanced.
Sean
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Some news (sources at www.squeaksource.com/Athens):
About having a first 'minimal' version, working with RomePluginCanvas and
RomeReferenceCanvas, it seems to be ok.
I retrieve the tests from Sophie and all are green.
In romeDemo, I made a category with some working examples (using
RomePluginCan
Lukas Renggli wrote:
Hi Juan,
This looks really exiting!
How do you get the actual pixels drawn? Is this implemented in
Smalltalk? Did you write primitives to do that? Are you using external
libraries? How does it compare performance wise with the current
rendering?
Lukas
Hi Lukas,
I'm
Hi Juan,
This looks really exiting!
How do you get the actual pixels drawn? Is this implemented in
Smalltalk? Did you write primitives to do that? Are you using external
libraries? How does it compare performance wise with the current
rendering?
Lukas
On 2 June 2010 13:43, Juan Vuletich wrote:
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> For me I'm open to a lot of suggestions but at the end of the day is who
> can do it.
>
A way is to have weekly news rather than monthly, it's shorter so less time
to write it.
I can participate but I want other people, so we can write i
Hi Folks,
I'm new to this list, but many of you already know me.
Morphic 3 is a deep redesign of the Morphic framework. It includes new
rendering algorithms I developed that produce unparalleled visual
quality. Really. This is the best 2d rendering in the world. You can
take a look at www.jv
Hi and welcome.
In http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq
you can read the question: "How can I contribute to Pharo?" which links you
to: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/HowToContribute
and
http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html
cheers
Mariano
On
I was just going to say the same. I have tons of images. Just duplicate an
image and you have a new project. No need for a brittle mechanism inside the
image.
Cheers,
Adrian
On Jun 2, 2010, at 08:50 , Lukas Renggli wrote:
> I have my different "projects" in different images. That works perfec
For me I'm open to a lot of suggestions but at the end of the day is who can do
it.
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:37 AM, laurent laffont wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
> we could have something a bit more detailed
> then we could also reach people.
> I do
GREAT WORK JUAN! the quality is superb!
it's amazing to see Morphic3 in action!
When can we get our hands on it?
If you need any help/tester for the project i'm up to it!
Fernando
pd: just a minor remark on the web page: i think the pictures to the right and
left should have a distinct lab
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:26 16AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> we could have something a bit more detailed
> then we could also reach people.
> I do not know who is reading the blog
> May be this is enough but the blog is not really active
>
> Stef
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:18 AM, laurent laffont wrote:
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> we could have something a bit more detailed
> then we could also reach people.
> I do not know who is reading the blog
> May be this is enough but the blog is not really active
>
I prefer the blog, it makes some activity on the website.
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
> How I can sign license agreement?
> I add it to bug entry.
excellent
>
> 2010/6/2 Stéphane Ducasse
> Thanks denis
>
> did you sign the license agreement?
> Please do. http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/licenseDocuments/
- print it
- fill it u
we could have something a bit more detailed
then we could also reach people.
I do not know who is reading the blog
May be this is enough but the blog is not really active
Stef
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:18 AM, laurent laffont wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
How I can sign license agreement?
I add it to bug entry.
2010/6/2 Stéphane Ducasse
> Thanks denis
>
> did you sign the license agreement?
> Please do. http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/licenseDocuments/
>
> We will be happy to integrate your changes (modulo UI people like it).
> Do make sure that thi
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi
>
> I think that lot of people are overwhelmed by the flux of mails. I would
> like get us doing the following:
>- have an announce mailing-list with a low traffic and important
> announces
>- having a monthly report of
Thanks denis
did you sign the license agreement?
Please do. http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/licenseDocuments/
We will be happy to integrate your changes (modulo UI people like it).
Do make sure that this happens can you open a bug entry on
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/
Stef
On Ju
11383
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Issue 2496: FFI not loading due to Parser changes
Issue 2495: Use cull: for ifNotNil:
Stef
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Hi
I think that lot of people are overwhelmed by the flux of mails. I would like
get us doing the following:
- have an announce mailing-list with a low traffic and important
announces
- having a monthly report of items.
For the second point we could have a group of people picki
Hello
I implement MaskedTextMorph class for masked input fields.
See attachment and class side example.
Its just little class. I dont create separate package for it. Maybe somebody
add it to some widgets package
MaskedTextMorph.st
Description: Binary data
__
I still think leaving identityHash alone and using scaledIdentityHash to
multiply by 2^18 is better for backwards compatibility. However, I do
not know how much of a problem changing identityHash will cause for
existing code. Something that has always bugged me about changing
identityHash is
>>>
Hi!
Apparently in Pharo 1.1, hash values may be greater than 4096. What is the
range of the hash values?
Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:04 32AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
>
>> On 02.06.2010 00:15, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Apparently in Pharo 1.1, hash values may be greater than 4096. What is the
>>> range of the hash values?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandr
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