Projects as described might be similar to Dolphin's IdeaSpace. For whatever reason, I never liked them very much, so I am not the best person to comment. What I found most effective was to have filters on browsers so they would show me only subsets of the image and were easily launched from a tool that was always available in my image. That said, I can see why one might would want to have different tools open for different tasks, and be able to easily move between them.
I am not sure about the objections to Squeak projects, other than IIRC, they use SmartReferenceStream, which I find to be horrible in various respects. The output is verbose, layout conversions do not anticipate the needs of an end user nor of the developer trying to protect the end user from a walkback, and the conversion methods go in the wrong place (attached to the serializer instead of the class that changed). In a word, YUK!!! Bill ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean P. DeNigris [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can I use Projects in Pharo? Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > to do what? > which one exactly? > The only thing I use projects for is to separate the different tasks I am working on at the same time (like spaces on the Mac), so I can have one world where I'm working on a client project, and a whole other world if I find a bug in the system that I want to fix - I want to move to another world, fix the bug, and move right back to my client world, with the windows exactly the way I left them. For my use case, saving projects doesn't come into play. Why not remove the save functionality, since that seems to be the objection everyone raises, and keep them as a workspace organization tool - in image only? Lukas Renggli wrote: > > I have my different "projects" in different images. That works perfectly. > For my workflow, this is too heavyweight. In my mind, that's like buying multiple separate computers to run different apps. Even though I am working on multiple tasks at once, they are not *that* different. For example, in my "fix a bug" task above, I want the fix to be in my working image (which is automatic in the projects solution), without having to load into all the other images I'm working on. One of the killer features of Squeak/Pharo to me is that the whole system is available to itself. If I start breaking the image into smaller task-based images, it feels like going back to applications and files - yuck! ;-) Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Can-I-use-Projects-in-Pharo-tp2239170p2240170.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
