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Levente
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] FW: Debugging Co
Levente,
I follow on why my shell script did not work. Your instructions got me going,
but we still don't have an answer. The vm is running, but I cannot attach:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2008-March/001840.html
>From what I read, one answer is the get the image lo
use gdb to see where it crashes. The VM seems to
be unstripped (8MB), so it should be easy to identify the cause of the
crash.
Levente
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwa
+1. This seems like an extension of "never test equality on floats."
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"You still didn't answer where you got the VM."
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28439/Pharo-1.2.1-CogOneClick.zip
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of S
ill
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
> Gratuitous default recipient...
>
> If there is a verbose dump option or other diagnostic efforts that will help,
> I will do my best to run them and report the results. I am fairly certain
> the vm is 'Croquet Clos
go.
If you need further info, look here:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7358
Dave
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 07:58:39AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
> Gratuitous default recipient...
>
> If there is a verbose dump option or other diagnostic efforts that will help,
> I will do
, but this happened with an earlier Cog one-click too. There is
something about the machine (UUID again?) that is different. I do not have
root access to it, but I can get to a terminal. Ubuntu 10.10.
____
From: Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011
Hello all,
I have an account on an Ubuntu terminal server (at least I think that's what it
would be called) running 10.10. The Cog one-click image crashes with
"Segmentation fault" (if run from a terminal); the legacy VM seems to run the
image nicely on the box. Any ideas? I will happily col
That sounds like a one-to-many relationship. In those cases, I create two
tables, one for the singleton side and one for the many side. The many side
includes the key field(s) from the one side, and setting it/them establishes
the relationship. A unique ID field for the singleton side is help
Expert? Certainly not me :) The question I will be waiting to see debated is
whether you should "fabricate" an ID field (probably a counter), use ISBN or
similar number, or use a compound key. FWIW, I invariably regret any decision
I make in these areas, because there are tradeoffs. Relation
I've been grabbing and trying one-click images from Hudson for a while. They
have worked on Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04. My sampling is not exhaustive, but the
Linux one-clicks seem to work.
My current "project" (hopefully complete) is to eliminate my dependence on some
hacks that I added to the vm
Out of the box, system browsers are opening with a scroll bar between the lists
and code pane. Click on it, and the bar disappears.
Curious which vm was in use, I tried:
SmalltalkImage current vmVersion 'Squeak3.10.2 of ''5 June 2008'' [latest
update: #7179]'
Looks weird?? Ask the vm it
Stef,
This sounds like a job of a unit (acceptance) test :) One suggestion was to
break the rename into pieces. I follow the thinking, but fear it will make the
problem worse.
Dolphin has a really slick event system, which was perhaps more of a big deal c
1997 than it is now. One thing that
Great link! I have never been a fan of the colored windows, with one glowing
exception: clay rose (very subtle tint) really works for the debugger.
Dan also mentioned graph paper. Ledger green is a nice background color for
reading text. What I want to see is a clean way to set text editor b
Re learning about the GUI, look for Polymorph examples, the ProfessorStef
browser, etc. The GUI section of the CollaborActive Book looks good too, as
are the screen casts.
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists
Stef,
I am fairly certain that morphic/Polymoprh extensions exist. IIRC, it was
written up in thesis from your group. Is that what you need, or are you
looking for something different?
Bill
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[pharo-pr
Dmitri,
I am pretty sure the discussion is over having some way to mark a line as a
breakpoint w/o having to insert #halt and accepting the change - like you would
set a breakpoint in C IDE. The truth is that I have been using #halt that for
so long that I miss it when working in other languag
" to play as we please, i
will add some screenshots as soon as i have some spare time :)
2011/3/13 Schwab,Wilhelm K :
> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>
>
>
>
> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> [pharo-
Dark gray?? If you insist :) The point is that there should be a simple way
to change the text editor background color, because you are very correct about
eye strain, and somebody might want to change it for fun. Ledger green is my
preference.
From:
+1
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote:
I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere. Following the collaboractive book,
.
Cheers,
Alexandre
Le 12 mars 2011 à 23:48, Lemuus mailto:lem...@gmail.com>> a
écrit :
I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
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12, 2011 7:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Update process broken by 13084
Den 13.03.2011 01:04, skrev Schwab,Wilhelm K:
> Linux certainly allows that mistake. What about OSX?
As Steph/Markus used Macs today when pushing updates, I'm fairly ce
I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere. Following the collaboractive book,
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
load.
( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform:
#loadDefault.
led to a warning about D
Linux certainly allows that mistake. What about OSX?
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Henrik Sperre
Johansen [henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:29
I like the one-click too, but Torsten is correct that many Windows users will
want an installer. If nothing else, having one proves that it can be done -
*we* know that it can, but the FUD crowd will raise it as a concern. Let's
prove them wrong.
InnoSetup is worth a look.
_
Olivier,
Have you addressed senders of #or:or: and/or similar messages? They are
missing in Pharo and have caused problems for me. Taking the coward's way out,
I just added the needed methods, but if you are updating the package, it would
be nice to have code that will work in both Squeak and
Olivier,
There is a growing body of good information. You might start here:
http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/screencasts
http://book.pharo-project.org/
Morphic is a long-standing UI framework for Squeak, taken from Self. Morphic
was a nice simulation environment, but Squeak's
Friedrich,
I recall having success with the vm as-is and just patching the image. One
thing the vm certainly should do is tell us the translations it makes. I think
it is always a good idea to know which port was actually opened, or failed to
open :) Double that for external libraries, but t
What was your competition? Is there any advice you have for those of us still
learning Seaside?
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Alexandre Bergel
[alexandre.ber...@me.com]
Se
Are Gaelli and Galli the same person? If so, is there a typo, or is it simply
that the name does not translate easily?
[5] M. Gaelli, O. Nierstrasz, and S. Ducasse. One-method commands: Linking
methods and their tests. In OOPSLA Workshop on Revival of Dynamic
Languages. Citeseer, 2004.
[6] M. G
pend far
>> less time (almost none) manually testing functionality. So TDD results
>> in net negative time difference.
>>
>> (Apologize if I'm incoherent, the cold and flu drugs are strong in this
>> one.)
>>
>> -Steven
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 27,
rence.
(Apologize if I'm incoherent, the cold and flu drugs are strong in this one.)
-Steven
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Norbert Hartl
mailto:norb...@hartl.name>> wrote:
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> On 27.02.2011, at 13:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> Norbert,
>>
>> Excell
11:51 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> On 27.02.2011, at 13:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> Norbert,
>>
>> Excellent points - I take exception with only one: you assume that all
>> developers test - that is sadly not true. I am involved with a group who
>>
it testing?
On 27.02.2011, at 13:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Norbert,
>
> Excellent points - I take exception with only one: you assume that all
> developers test - that is sadly not true. I am involved with a group who
> seem to think that a handful of tests added at the last minute
eering books or periodicals.
HTH
--
Cesar Rabak
Em 27/02/2011 11:28, Alexandre Bergel < alexandre.ber...@me.com > escreveu:
Robert Martin said in his book that one should spend ~50% of its time writing
tests.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 27 Feb 2011, at 00:52, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> H
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Good reference on time on unit testing?
On 27/02/11 7:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
> I have no problem arguing that testing (if done well) can/will reduce
> overall de
?
On 02/27/2011 06:12 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Understood. But, doing it correctly, how much of your time do you spend on
> the test writing/maintenance side?
Far less time than you'll spend manually testing over the course of
writing and maintaining the program. You can'
Couldn't have said it better myself!
--
Cheers,
Peter.
On 27 feb 2011, at 08:27, laurent laffont
mailto:laurent.laff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
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-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Norbert Hartl
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Good reference on time on unit testing?
Hi,
On 27.02.2011, at 04:52, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello
Hello all,
Can anyone recommend a good reference on the amount of time one should expect
to spend writing tests? I will have to be the messenger (will be wearing
running shoes just in case...), but I want the message to come from a solid
source.
Bill
Apr 1, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote:
Stef,
Dolphin's solution is to use proxies. Rather than serializing the class
itself, one might prefer to serialize a proxy that knows enough to find the
appropriate object once it "wakes up"
That depends on what you mean by good. I have found the explorer to work well
for such things, but IIRC, the output is not as clean as yours.
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of
+1 overall, and to seeking better socket streams. FFI+Callbacks too.
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Casimiro de Almeida
Barreto [casimiro.barr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
Mapping values reminds of a converting value adapter. I will look shortly, but
I fear I do not have a working one at present - I say that because only week
ago, I created an aspect value adapter to get some ported code going. It
should not be too hard to throw together.
_
Stef,
So far, I about all I have done with the xml parser is note that it can parse
the data from my Garmin Forerunner. Otherwise, I have used SIXX with good
results, at least as far as I have pushed it. Its code might give you some
ideas that would apply to outside xml (maybe), or if you ca
My read on OpenCobalt was that it was not a fork, but a complete replacement.
The consortium was effectively saying "we're the big guys now, and we're going
to do this right..." It is fascinating to see that Smalltalk won out. I still
don't like the compiler changes: never do _to_ the languag
I don't. What I remembered reading was that project had shifted to some other
name (Cobalt turns out to be it) and had left Smalltalk for Java. Turns out, I
wasn't just having a bad dream. From the FAQ:
"Why not use Java for Open Cobalt?
When we first set out to build Open Cobalt's underlyin
My favorite parts were:
“I have seen examples of developers on older technologies like RPG and Delphi
charging twice the rate of a developer on a newer technology.“
Did it ever occur to them that some of these systems (e.g. Smalltalk) might
actually be more productive and hence worth the boost
Sig,
You mean it doesn't work that way already?? :) It sounds good. Does the name
lookup proceed by dlsym()/GetProcAddress()/etc.? The alternative would be to
have a map inside the vm that would require maintenance :( The other question
is how often does the lookup occur? It's probably not
Stef,
I am not sure that #* would be all that confusing: I tend not to multiply path
names all that often :) However, your question is well taken. How about #any
or #all?
Attached are some methods that I use to ease the transition from Dolphin. Most
of the calling code needs to be modified
Craig,
You and SmartReferenceStream are effectively assuming that user==programmer; I
submit it is in our interest to many ordinary users of Smalltalk applications.
All that should be required is to have code that is newer than the stream, and
neither user nor developer should be bothered wit
Craig,
If I am following this correctly, it's over-engineered and will back fire. You
are setting up some of the same mistakes that were made in
SmartReferenceStream, only with both sides involved. This is a simple problem
calling for a careful solution.
Dolphin has this right: version the s
A nice mix is to do memory management and logic (e.g. decide when to stop
iterating) in Smalltalk and to have C-callable "primitives" for the heavy
loops. A great way to reach the latter is to define the functions using extern
"C" - then you can use C++ features (streams, templates) in the func
On Linux, I simply edit the shell script to use the image of interest. I don't
know enough about macs to figure out whether "launch xyz.app" is using the
shell script or doing something completely different. Anybody?
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.1.1 one-click-cog crash
ls -ltr ?
2011/2/16 Schwab,Wilhelm K :
> Hello all,
>
> I just put the 1.1.1 cog one-click on an Ubuntu 10.10 machine and got a
> segment fault. This is a machine that I did not build, and can access only
> via
I have used LDAPlayer with good results. There are small problems on Pharo - a
DNU over #and:and: IIRC. As the self-appointed silent failure pedant, I would
like to suggest a change to your code. Please try/consider (untested code):
attrAt: aKey ifNone:ifNone
| selected |
selected :
Stef,
The revised language is much improved. I too am curious about what you have in
mind on the conditions. Are you looking for support from institutions or
individuals? I assume both, but the thresholds would be different for UF than
for me by myself.
Bill
_
Hello all,
I just put the 1.1.1 cog one-click on an Ubuntu 10.10 machine and got a segment
fault. This is a machine that I did not build, and can access only via an NX
client remote connection (probably not a factor). The sequence of events was
that I had the machine download the zip, expande
I am not completely certain who is on which side here anymore, other than
#caseOf: is at the center of it. I think I saw Eliot say that Cog uses it; if
I got that right, it's a pretty compelling reason to keep it in the image.
Doing that, either for Cog's benefit, or even just for the convenie
In Dolphin, one can cope with that fairly easily - most of the time. The trick
is to change the affected class' serializing version number, which causes the
loader to seek help reading old serialized data, which arrives as an array.
Streams work well for adapting the old array into an array th
That's where I typically use a dictionary. Map the numbers to what is often a
factory (a factory that reads from a stream being a common scenario) or
sometimes closures. Create the map once on class initialization or once per
"session" (or at least try not to build the map "every time"), and t
I think you will find that OS Process work on mac an Linux and NOT on Windows,
but ProcessWrapper does work there. A test on the OS should let you
interchange them well enough to get by.
Bill
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[pharo-pr
You cite an example very similar to what Dolphin does, and we could do with
SIXX. Dolphin serializes things not to avoid the image but to allow packaging.
SIXX could do the same for us. I favor the idea of SIXX more to avoid falling
into a trap of being subliminally influenced by (aka stealin
Read the Federalist Papers and Bastiat's "The Law," and then we can talk about
democracy, one illustration of which is three wolves and a sheep voting on the
dinner menu. In its raw form, yes, I argue against democracy, aka mob rule.
However, we are not talking about taking someone's life, libe
Object readFrom:( Text fromString:'Hello' ) storeString
You might also have a look at SIXX. I have not used it for anything big or for
a long period of time, but no complaints so far, other than the output being
more verbose than I might like. Still, it seems to be a good serializer.
__
WindowBuilder is impressive. I'm not sure how to clean room it though.
If the concern is over the serialization of objects, has anyone considered SIXX
for that? Doing that could give us something similar to the Dolphin
ViewComposer but clearly of distinct origin. To the result, we could add
Have you looked at messages like #copyWithRegex:matchesTranslatedUsing:? It
might help??
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Nick Ager
[nick.a...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, Februa
Marcus,
Nice work!! The .st file could be very useful. Can you add them for the
clients too? Doing that would document what the various images test and
provide some examples for using Metacello.
Bill
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at: aPoint font: fontOrNil color: c
On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:24 55PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
This reminds me of something: I have long been concerned about possible speed
penalties that might result from Morphic's accepting colors and other drawing
tools as arguments rather than hav
This reminds me of something: I have long been concerned about possible speed
penalties that might result from Morphic's accepting colors and other drawing
tools as arguments rather than having a canvas hold them as state that can be
set once and used many times.
It's probably nothing, but it
1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Status of Alien
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote:
Eliot,
I'm impressed :) To say that I truly understand would be dishonest, but I
think I more or less get
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] new Cog VMs available
On 09.02.2011 02:31, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> New vms that read cog images - as in cog is no longer a one-way street? That
> would make it safer/easier to test.
Yes.
Cheers,
Henry
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Eliot Miranda
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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:57 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Status of Alien
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto
: Re: [Pharo-project] Status of Alien
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote:
Torsten,
I have been under the impression that it has never worked on Linux - it would
be great to be wrong on that. Does anyone have Alien on Linux waiting for
some
New vms that read cog images - as in cog is no longer a one-way street? That
would make it safer/easier to test.
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Levente Uzonyi
[le...@elte.h
Torsten,
I have been under the impression that it has never worked on Linux - it would
be great to be wrong on that. Does anyone have Alien on Linux waiting for
someone to try it?
One thing slowing my search for FFI/Alien improvements has been that I was
initially dependent on some vm modific
In all of that is a comment that there are already multiple social networking
systems available. It brings up a few questions, including whether another one
is really needed? It sounds like a few college kids managed to raise some real
money to fund something (aka "buy the beer") that one or t
If there is a problem finding primitives, then that probably deserves attention
in the browsers. Given that collections, sockets, streams, etc. all use
primitives, will likely continue to do so, and will also find competition
(Nile, new sockets package, etc.), I think it would be inappropriate
d a new language, but you
have big assumptions that will slow you down. I just pointed out the
most important parts that surprised me when I learned Smalltalk.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> That comment requires elaboration or at least some examples of what one
>
That comment requires elaboration or at least some examples of what one
can/should do, but getting past that is a big hurdle in learning Smalltalk.
Things old to us can be earth shattering: something as simple as creating a new
package (or even just a new class or a new class method somewhere,
Max,
I'm on your side, really :) Silent failures are a big problem and should not
be allowed to persist. What I don't know is whether the remedy for low space
is simply to log it and then proceed to crash, or if a handler can do something
useful. The handler probably would need to be registe
Max,
#isSpaceLow will be of value only if it is called on some type of event (from
the gc?) or polled in some way. When my Dolphin images have crashed due to low
space, it has invariably been due to one of two things: (1) early on, improper
clean up of ODBC statements; (2) loops over very larg
le might be a way too.
The tipical wizard to generata a CRUD from database ("puaj... i feel sick")..
is a good think to make newby more confotable with the enviroment and language.
Best.
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote:
On the permanent noob front: I have years of experience as a beginning skier.
I like it that way: no broken bones. Besides, I don't get to do it often
enough to develop an attitude about it.
As for Smalltalk in general, I have pointed new users to the Digitalk
tutorials, telling them to stop
The Windows VM is impressive - you can tell Andreas I said so :) On whole, if
there is something to get right in the Squeak/Pharo world, I've come to expect
to see it on Windows first - certainly not because of the OS.
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Fernando,
The goals are mix of what Alexandre is trying to do short term and what I want
to be able to do eventually. It's great to know that you have addressed them.
One thing we appear to have in common is Linux, which is why I jumped into this
- I've had to debug several non-loading librar
Alexandre,
If I knew what worked, I'd be making a recommendation :) As it is, I can
perhaps help you work through the debugging process. As I said, you could
indeed be missing a needed library, there could be dependencies missing that
make a .so unable to load, a .so could be just plain broke
Not that you are wrong, but how did you choose AlienOpenGL over CroquetGL?
IIRC, there is also a 3D project associated with NativeBoost. The latter lives
here:
http://code.google.com/p/nativeboost/
Just curious.
I was originally very disappointed that Croquet was an all-or-nothing
pr
To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Any Clue..
On 19/01/11 8:48 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Sig,
>
> Are we discussing the same OS? What you are describing matches my experience
> on Windows; on Linux, AFAIK, one can just stomp all over the files an
Stasenko
[siguc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:35 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Any Clue..
On 19 January 2011 14:14, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Sig,
>
> Please forgive me for being skeptical, but it is certainly worthy of a test
Would it be possible/better to keep a limited number of successful builds and
to time-limit the bad ones?
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Marcus Denker
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Sig,
Please forgive me for being skeptical, but it is certainly worthy of a test on
my end. How do the multiple processes coordinate access to the change log?
Not having seen an IDE complain about access to either image or changes, and
knowing that I have been bitten by this, I am not sure ho
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Thanks..
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
I have seen this only a couple of times, and I am not aware of a shortcut to
returning to a working image and recovering lost changes. As an aside, I am
suspicious that opening an image more than once leads to much more badness than
is generally acknowledged. I am convinced it was central to m
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Who defended what status quo?
The WeakAnnouncement are already on the agenda for 1.3.
Cheers,
Doru
On 18 Jan 2011, at 20:40, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote
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Yes but having good weakstructure will not arrive by accident.
On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Two comme
6 + (4/2) will do what you want, for the reasons already well covered.
As an aside, have you ever really looked at the way mathematics is typeset in
books? Some of it does not bear close examination from a
precedence/correctness perspective - missing parentheses, etc. The problem was
that I w
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