[Pharo-users] Object count/memory usage in Pharo6 WAS Re: Critical issues for Dr. Geo on P6

2017-07-26 Thread Holger Freyther
> On 22. Jul 2017, at 14:00, Hilaire wrote: > > Hi Holger, > > With Pharo3 I was proceeding like this, by uninstallation of packages. > However there is the promise of building from a minimal image, but it is not > documented AFAIK. > > By curiosity, what is the size of your resulting image.

Re: [Pharo-users] Critical issues for Dr. Geo on P6

2017-07-26 Thread Holger Freyther
> On 22. Jul 2017, at 12:07, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > Hi holger Hey Stef! > "the growth from Pharo3->Pharo6" us too :) > this is why we invested in the bootstrap and this is why we will > remove (and we started) packages and classes. > And this is also why we will continue to repackage th

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSON "conditional" parsing/mapping

2017-07-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Esteban, I had a quick look at the spec you mentioned. I am a bit puzzled though. Result can be anything, so how are you going to map that to specific classes (and why) ? That would require serious prior knowledge and even then, not every situation can be mapped easily to a class. You speak ab

[Pharo-users] Documentation

2017-07-26 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I am looking at participating in the documentation if that is a good area to plug in. I do not necessarily have the expertise on the subjects, but I can bring fresh eyes and the eyes of a native English speaker. What is the best way to assist? For example I am currently reading the Booklet-u

Re: [Pharo-users] Beyond Live Coding

2017-07-26 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Thanks for the reply. Absolutely, I love what you say, "Pharo is yours". Which is why last month I joined the Association. I felt I needed to make the commitment. I had thought I wanted to do BountySource on a monthly basis. I signed up at the Association level but nothing happened with regar

[Pharo-users] Zinc: Are start and stop meant to be idempotent?

2017-07-26 Thread Herby Vojčík
Hi, Looking at ZnServer >> start and ZnSingleThreadedServer >> stop (as ZnServer >> stop is #subclassResponsibility), I had the impression they are meant to be idempotent. The start comment is: "Start me. I will start listening on my port for incoming HTTP connections. If I

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoCSV on Irregular Files

2017-07-26 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2017-07-26 13:04 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > I agree. > > If the file is non-homegeneous it is not longer CSV by definition. > > Holding on to the original stream and creating new readers for each section > is one option, an other one could be to add a #reset method. > > The big question i

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoCSV on Irregular Files

2017-07-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I agree. If the file is non-homegeneous it is not longer CSV by definition. Holding on to the original stream and creating new readers for each section is one option, an other one could be to add a #reset method. The big question is how to known when one section begins/ends. NeoCSVReader holds

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoCSV on Irregular Files

2017-07-26 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
There is no way to perform this with NeoJSON or any other CSV framework I'm aware of. I had to deal with that kind of "format" (which is likely an export format), and the way to deal with it was to process each "segment" using a different instance of the CSV reader, the segments where scanned in t

[Pharo-users] NeoCSV on Irregular Files

2017-07-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I have a CSV file that has several subsections, each with its own format. What I'd like to do is parse one, reset the NeoCSVReader, set it up for the next section, and continue. I didn't see an API for this. Is it possible? Thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://foru

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks you for checking that. All the startup logic got rewritten in Pharo 6 to be able to have a more modular system and there are probably things to align. Stef On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Herby Vojčík wrote: > Herby Vojčík wrote: >> >> Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2017-07-26 13:08

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Herby Vojčík
Herby Vojčík wrote: Nicolai Hess wrote: 2017-07-26 13:08 GMT+02:00 Herby Vojčík mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>>: Nicolai Hess wrote: 2017-07-26 12:09 GMT+02:00 mailto:he...@mailbox.sk> >>: On July 26, 2017 11:53:41 AM GMT+02:00, Sven Van Caeke

Re: [Pharo-users] Performance of zero conf install since 6.1 seems very slow?

2017-07-26 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Yes I see the same - it was seconds and now minutes. Maybe it is worth having a mirror for CI (or does it get edge cached anyway- probably not from what we are seeing, but possibly if could be?) Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Jul 2017, at 09:17, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > it may been rela

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2017-07-26 13:16 GMT+02:00 Herby Vojčík : > Nicolai Hess wrote: > >> >> >> 2017-07-26 13:08 GMT+02:00 Herby Vojčík > >: >> >> Nicolai Hess wrote: >> >> >> >> 2017-07-26 12:09 GMT+02:00 > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Herby Vojčík
Nicolai Hess wrote: 2017-07-26 13:08 GMT+02:00 Herby Vojčík mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>>: Nicolai Hess wrote: 2017-07-26 12:09 GMT+02:00 mailto:he...@mailbox.sk> >>: On July 26, 2017 11:53:41 AM GMT+02:00, Sv

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2017-07-26 13:08 GMT+02:00 Herby Vojčík : > Nicolai Hess wrote: > >> >> >> 2017-07-26 12:09 GMT+02:00 mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>>: >> >> >> >> On July 26, 2017 11:53:41 AM GMT+02:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe >> mailto:s...@stfx.eu>> wrote: >> > >> > > On 25 Jul 2017, at 19:46, Cyril Fer

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Herby Vojčík
Nicolai Hess wrote: 2017-07-26 12:09 GMT+02:00 mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>>: On July 26, 2017 11:53:41 AM GMT+02:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe mailto:s...@stfx.eu>> wrote: > > > On 25 Jul 2017, at 19:46, Cyril Ferlicot D. >mailto:cyril.ferli...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2017-07-26 12:09 GMT+02:00 : > > > On July 26, 2017 11:53:41 AM GMT+02:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe < > s...@stfx.eu> wrote: > > > >> On 25 Jul 2017, at 19:46, Cyril Ferlicot D. > > wrote: > >> > >> Le 25/07/2017 à 19:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> User Herby Vojčík seems t

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread herby
On July 26, 2017 11:53:41 AM GMT+02:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 25 Jul 2017, at 19:46, Cyril Ferlicot D. > wrote: >> >> Le 25/07/2017 à 19:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> User Herby Vojčík seems to have an issue with the --headless option >on Windows 10 >>> >

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2017-07-26 11:53 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > On 25 Jul 2017, at 19:46, Cyril Ferlicot D. > wrote: > > > > Le 25/07/2017 à 19:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> User Herby Vojčík seems to have an issue with the --headless option on > Windows 10 > >> > >> https://pha

Re: [Pharo-users] Issue with the --headless option on Windows 10

2017-07-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Jul 2017, at 19:46, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > > Le 25/07/2017 à 19:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> User Herby Vojčík seems to have an issue with the --headless option on >> Windows 10 >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20271/ZnServer-managedServers-disappear-whe

Re: [Pharo-users] Performance of zero conf install since 6.1 seems very slow?

2017-07-26 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
it may been related to recent INRIA infrastructure changes. there is nothing 6.1 itself can do with that (6.1 is just a bunch of zips) Esteban > On 26 Jul 2017, at 09:44, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > We were also seeing it yesterday. In travis, 10m to download an image (and > thus timeout). Be

Re: [Pharo-users] Performance of zero conf install since 6.1 seems very slow?

2017-07-26 Thread Guillermo Polito
We were also seeing it yesterday. In travis, 10m to download an image (and thus timeout). Before it took seconds. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi. > > I don't know answer. But what time it takes before? > > 2017-07-26 9:30 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon : > >> Hi - has any

Re: [Pharo-users] Performance of zero conf install since 6.1 seems very slow?

2017-07-26 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi. I don't know answer. But what time it takes before? 2017-07-26 9:30 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon : > Hi - has anyone else noticed that since 6.1 - using zero conf for installs > is very very slow (it takes minutes to download pharo64.zip when using > > curl get.pharo.org/64/ | bash > > > This is

[Pharo-users] Performance of zero conf install since 6.1 seems very slow?

2017-07-26 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi - has anyone else noticed that since 6.1 - using zero conf for installs is very very slow (it takes minutes to download pharo64.zip when using curl get.pharo.org/64/ | bash This is both on my local computer but also on the gitlab ci server? Is it possibly something isn’t configured right? T