On 04 Nov 2013, at 08:26, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On 04 Nov 2013, at 00:01, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> But marcus we are doing update all the time because this is the way we push
>> new updates daily.
>> So I do not understand why this would be different?
>>
>
> It happens due to strang
On 04 Nov 2013, at 00:01, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> But marcus we are doing update all the time because this is the way we push
> new updates daily.
> So I do not understand why this would be different?
>
It happens due to strange things: updates that access the web and URLs change,
for exam
On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Sergi Reyner wrote:
> 2013/11/4 Stéphane Ducasse
> tx and archived!
> And your enh is in the new integration :)
>
>
> Yay! Scratching an itch and contributing something feels great :)
:)
Yes pay attention when you start to like that you learn and lot and you star
2013/11/4 Stéphane Ducasse
> tx and archived!
> And your enh is in the new integration :)
>
>
Yay! Scratching an itch and contributing something feels great :)
tx and archived!
And your enh is in the new integration :)
On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Sergi Reyner wrote:
> Sent to your mail, Stef!
>
>
> 2013/11/3 Stéphane Ducasse
> Sergi
>
> could you sign the Pharo license agreement and send it to us (scanned for
> example)?
>
> Stef
>
> On Nov 3,
Bahman,
Hi, Fuel was moved some time ago from SS3 to SmalltalkHub. Could it be that
it was searching ConfigurationOfFuel in SS3?
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just downloaded Pharo 2.0 on a Windows machine, unpacked it, ran it
> and from the world menu s
Sent to your mail, Stef!
2013/11/3 Stéphane Ducasse
> Sergi
>
> could you sign the Pharo license agreement and send it to us (scanned for
> example)?
>
> Stef
>
> On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Sergi Reyner wrote:
>
>
> El 03/11/2013 21:45, "Benjamin"
> escribió:
> >
> > I think I missed the be
Sergi
could you sign the Pharo license agreement and send it to us (scanned for
example)?
Stef
On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Sergi Reyner wrote:
>
> El 03/11/2013 21:45, "Benjamin"
> escribió:
> >
> > I think I missed the beginning of this thread :)
> > So my question is what do you want to
+1
Pharo should be Pharo :)
And we should all push in that direction
- minimal core
- sweet integration with the rest of the world
- objects
- cool libraries
> I think that we should be passionate about what we are doing. Look at Scala
> for example. It’s becomin
Hi
I will integrate some fixes now.
Stef
> Hello and welcome :)
>
>
> On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:36, nacho <0800na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group.
>> I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to
>> understand how Spec works. It se
> Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group.
Welcome :)
> I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to
> understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI
> framework from Pharo 3 onwards, I know it's changing and evolving but I'll
> take the risk
But marcus we are doing update all the time because this is the way we push new
updates daily.
So I do not understand why this would be different?
>
>> no you dont do anything wrong, unfortunately from what I have been told the
>> update process is broken. Right now the best choices is to downl
Excellent!
I will integrate it.
Now I'm back from a really cool turn into buenos aires.
There are really cool places :)
On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Benjamin Van Ryseghem
wrote:
> After a bit of research I found the beginning of the thread :)
>
> I integrated your code in Spec (after minor fi
After a bit of research I found the beginning of the thread :)
I integrated your code in Spec (after minor fixes).
You can see it here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12066
Thanks :)
Ben
2013/11/3 Benjamin
> I think I missed the beginning of this thread :)
> So my question is what do
El 03/11/2013 21:45, "Benjamin"
escribió:
>
> I think I missed the beginning of this thread :)
> So my question is what do you want to do ? :)
I want to have a way to get an AlphaImageMorph linked to a ValueHolder(?)
holding a Form(?), and having it update automatically, for example in
response t
I think I missed the beginning of this thread :)
So my question is what do you want to do ? :)
I tried your ImageSpecTest, and after a minor fix, it opens :)
But expect displaying an ImageMorph, it is not really usable :)
Ben
On 03 Nov 2013, at 21:37, Sergi Reyner wrote:
> 2013/11/3 Sergi Reyn
2013/11/3 Sergi Reyner
>
> Something like this:
>
> initializeWidgets
> self
> instantiateModels:
> { (#listModel -> #ListComposableModel).
> (#pictureModel -> #AlphaImageModel).
> }
>
I gave it another try, and after a few attempts I managed to put together a
working example of what I meant, i
On 2013-11-03, at 21:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We essentially finished moving Moose to Pharo 3.0 (we still have 6 yellow
> tests but they needed attention anyway). It took about 4 people looking into
> issues for a total probably around 2 man-days of effort. The largest
> impediment w
Hi,
We essentially finished moving Moose to Pharo 3.0 (we still have 6 yellow
tests but they needed attention anyway). It took about 4 people looking
into issues for a total probably around 2 man-days of effort. The largest
impediment was actually SmalltalkHub being down for one day :).
What pose
On 03 Nov 2013, at 20:01, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Marcus,
>
> FWIW, you are inspiring. I am amazed on how you keep the thing going.
>
> Thanks for showing the high road.
>
> Phil
Indeed.
I think its unrealistic to expect accurate numbers in any way other than
going outside and asking each coder what language he uses and for what
platform. None the less, its not hard at all to validate at least with a
substantial level of inaccuracy the numbers indicated by TIOBE , sure some
languag
Marcus,
FWIW, you are inspiring. I am amazed on how you keep the thing going.
Thanks for showing the high road.
Phil
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:33, kilon alios wrote:
> Are those the same people that a decade ago were proclaiming Java dead ? It
> only takes a walk to TIOBE INDEX to see how much of a threat mobile market is
> to desktop.
>
> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
>
h
Are those the same people that a decade ago were proclaiming Java dead ?
It only takes a walk to TIOBE INDEX to see how much of a threat mobile
market is to desktop.
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
I am sure Angry Birds and Candy Crash Saga are substantial oppone
Thanks for your prompt responses. I guess the wise advise is...wait a little
but I seldom follow the wise advice so I will continue to try to solve this
;)
I've been trying with ComposableModel>>#WindowModel with no luck as it seems
that though the method is implemented in #WindowModel it seems to
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:17, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:11, kilon alios wrote:
>
>> I fail to see how Windows prohibited iPhone from appearing or anything in my
>> quote saying that. They are not even in the same market.
>
> Yet, that old market is now in a very bad shape a
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:11, kilon alios wrote:
> I fail to see how Windows prohibited iPhone from appearing or anything in my
> quote saying that. They are not even in the same market.
Yet, that old market is now in a very bad shape and people talk about the
“death of the desktop”.
You do not n
I fail to see how Windows prohibited iPhone from appearing or anything in
my quote saying that. They are not even in the same market. Well there is
windows mobile and now windows 8 for phones and tablets but both are far
from monopoly products. Plus iPhone is not even an OS unless you were
referrin
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:05, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> nacho wrote:
>> Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group.
>> I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to
>> understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI
>> framework from Pharo 3 onwards
Hello and welcome :)
On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:36, nacho <0800na...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group.
> I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to
> understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI
> framework from Phar
>>> I always joke that he forgot “The only way to have a future is to finish
>>> something” ;-)
“One of the sad memories of my life is a visit to the celebrated mathematician
and inventor, Mr Babbage. He was far advanced in age, but his mind was still as
vigorous as ever. He took me through
nacho wrote:
Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group.
I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to
understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI
framework from Pharo 3 onwards, I know it's changing and evolving but I'll
take the risk.
The pro
On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:54, kilon alios wrote:
> Yeah I cant say I agree with Mr Kay my answer to his quote will be that he is
> wrong and that "the best way to predict the future is to create a monopoly” .
Yes, in 2007, the iPhone showed that “We can not do anything because Microsoft”
was just
Yeah I cant say I agree with Mr Kay my answer to his quote will be that he
is wrong and that "the best way to predict the future is to create a
monopoly" . After all Windows had and still has a very predictable future.
But I can understand why he said that, and I most certainly would motivate
this
On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:35, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>>
>> Alan Kay once said something along the lines of "The best way to
>> predict the future is to create it."
>>
>
> I always joke that he forgot “The only way to have a future is to finish
> something” ;-)
>
> Marcus
Made my day
>
On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:42, James Ashley wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Alan Kay once said something along the lines of "The best way to
>>> predict the future is to create it."
>>>
>>
>> I always joke that he forgot “The only way to have a future is
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>>
>> Alan Kay once said something along the lines of "The best way to
>> predict the future is to create it."
>>
>
> I always joke that he forgot “The only way to have a future is to finish
> something” ;-)
>
> Marcus
Nice. I may
Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group.
I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to
understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI
framework from Pharo 3 onwards, I know it's changing and evolving but I'll
take the risk.
The problem I'm facing
>
> Alan Kay once said something along the lines of "The best way to
> predict the future is to create it."
>
I always joke that he forgot “The only way to have a future is to finish
something” ;-)
Marcus
I'm really just a fairly uninterested bystander who's been eavesdropping.
I don't much care one way or the other, except that I'd *love* to see
Pharo explode
into the popularity that it deserves.
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:34 AM, kilon alios wrote:
> Influence the way Github goes is besides the po
Monticello is quite good, especially with Metacello associated to it.
I'd like to have the MetacelloToolBox working nicely with FTP repos and
will spend a while on that in the coming weeks, but frankly, that's great
to use to keep things in sync.
I'd pay for STH but for private projects and with
You will need to explain because I don't understand what you mean by
centralized vs distributed , does not support working at the right
granularity.
Influence the way Github goes is besides the point at this point since we
dont have a better alternative and I will be a great oracle to predict , o
On 2013-11-03, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
> Kilon wrote
>> I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find little
>> justification to not support Github. But then I am not against Smalltalkhub
>> or other >repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrier.
>
>
But why?
On 03 Nov 2013, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
> Kilon wrote
>> I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find little
>> justification to not support Github. But then I am not against Smalltalkhub
>> or other >repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrie
Kilon wrote
>I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find little
>justification to not support Github. But then I am not against Smalltalkhub or
>other >repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrier.
I see some very strong arguments against depending on github:
-
2013/11/2
> Sergi Reyner wrote:
>
>>
>> - Tried and somewhat succeeded in building my GUI with Spec, which
>> apparently doesn't know about images.
>>
>>
> As a new framework, sometimes it is just a use-case that has not been
> considered or prioritized. If you can describe your situation in det
Well I am for one promoting the use of Gihub mainly on the grounds of
promotion of Pharo efforts. the more projects are uploaded on github the
more exposure Pharo gets.Its also possible to have both Smalltalkhub and
Github, we could use Github as a fallback, a backup system for Smalltalkhub
and hav
Hi.
You’re right in general. But for me the main question is: can Monticello work
well? This thing was not evolving for years. Something has to be done.
Uko
On 03 Nov 2013, at 13:22, MartinW wrote:
> Just a thought on the discussions about Smalltalkhub beeing down and people
> would love to u
Just a thought on the discussions about Smalltalkhub beeing down and people
would love to use Gibhub instead:
I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.
And there is all this talk about building a business with Pharo - why not
make a business from Smalltalkhub? The thought of c
On 03 Nov 2013, at 12:37, Marcus Denker wrote:
> When we move to an image-bootstrap for the development of Pharo itself (I
> guess in Pharo4), we should really check what and how (and if) we
> support updating existing images, or if we declare the image to be something
> that *always* be the r
On 03 Nov 2013, at 10:54, kilon alios wrote:
> no you dont do anything wrong, unfortunately from what I have been told the
> update process is broken. Right now the best choices is to download directly
> from pharo website
>
The problem is that how images are used is shifting: People used to
no you dont do anything wrong, unfortunately from what I have been told the
update process is broken. Right now the best choices is to download
directly from pharo website
http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download
this will get you the latest release from the version you choose
there is also P
Hi Bahman,
Pharo 2.0 is released, if you load the latest version from the website, you
should not have to do any system updates.
That being said, the bug should not happen.
Sven
On 03 Nov 2013, at 07:10, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just downloaded Pharo 2.0 on a Windows machine, u
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