Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread webwarrior
Calm your tits, dude. No need to use Caps Lock that much :-) I made no value judgements in my post, letting readers decide for themselves. Nor did I attribute any claims to you. Except "live coding in Python is easy", which you did say in some earlier posts. > My post were not made to pick a

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Dimitris. You opinion about live programming reminds me the common sentence from developers who don't care about languages at all. Usual argument is: they all are Turing complete, so who cares. 2017-10-10 11:02 GMT+02:00 webwarrior : > Calm your tits, dude. No need to use

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote > it’s clear the community is unwilling to deal with such discussions. I wouldn't say that... after all this thread has the most posts on this list since January 21 ;) I personally learned a lot and was glad to hear all the points. I thought the last two pretty much captured the

[Pharo-users] how to update a pane in a customized inspector

2017-10-10 Thread Steven Costiou
Hi, I am trying to customize an inspector with a code browser, and I have in a compose method of my own browser the following: [...] browser transmit from: #methods; fromOutsidePort: #entity; to: #source; when: [ :method |

Re: [Pharo-users] how to update a pane in a customized inspector

2017-10-10 Thread Andrei Chis
Hi, On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Steven Costiou wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to customize an inspector with a code browser, and I have in a > compose method of my own browser the following: > > [...] > > browser transmit > from: #methods; >

Re: [Pharo-users] how to update a pane in a customized inspector

2017-10-10 Thread Steven Costiou
It works :) Thanks :) Yes that is the video i was looking for :) Le 2017-10-10 13:26, Andrei Chis a écrit : > Hi, > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Steven Costiou > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to customize an inspector with a code browser, and I have

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Serge Stinckwich
The MOOC is completely dubbed in English this year, so you don't need subtitles. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, horrido wrote: > Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: > https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english- > b07f6445f23 > >

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Probably is a English native speaker. It really amuse me the amount of complain about this. Is something like, please don't show me anything other cultures, even if I just need to turn on captions and read(!), like most of us did to learn English by ourselves. Whenever I have the opportunity, I

[Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread horrido
Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6445f23 To which I responded: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-49a68c23cf01 Some food for thought. -- Sent from:

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread horrido
Interestingly, I'm getting a fair amount of pushback on this. Personally, I think it would be very helpful to have a live (updatable, so as to keep it current) reference page for the class library, something that developers can easily look up what they need. After all, most of the power of Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-10 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
> > « Program » folder is the default location where to install apps on > Windows. > If a user does not have admin rights, he can simply install it under its > home directory. > > Also there is the UAC Virtualization fiasco that complicates installing > upgrades. >

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-10 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Ok, the executable is just a zip, why not distribute it as a zip? On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz wrote: > « Program » folder is the default location where to install apps on >> Windows. >> If a user does not have admin rights, he can simply install it

[Pharo-users] Error loading Seaside Gettext support

2017-10-10 Thread dario.trussa...@tiscali.it
Ciao,     i load correctly the Gettext support into:     Pharo 6.1-64 Latest update: #60510     In the image was load the Seaside 3.2     Now i do:     (ConfigurationOfSeaside3 project version: #stable )             load: #( 'Seaside-Gettext-Core' 'Seaside-Gettext-Examples').     The

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread p...@highoctane.be
A Bluebook updated picture would be great. And I am sure Roassal could produce it right away. Phil On Oct 10, 2017 15:58, "horrido" wrote: > Interestingly, I'm getting a fair amount of pushback on this. Personally, I > think it would be very helpful to have a live

[Pharo-users] [Off topic] Re: FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Probably is a English native speaker. > Next they'll be asking to covert the example from kilometres to miles ;) cheers -ben > It really amuse me the amount of complain about this. Is something

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi christophe This is why we worked (but never released) on silent Pharo. Stef On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > > Le 7 oct. 2017 à 14:26, Ben Coman a écrit : > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Nicolai Hess

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks offray. I would love to have spanish subtitles. We will have japanese subtitles On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Probably is a English native speaker. It really amuse me the amount of > complain about this. Is something like,

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Which reminds me a guy that I tried to convince that become: is not the same as changeClassToThatOf: but he was super smart and knew so this is written in his super smart paper and I smile still now thinking about it. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Denis Kudriashov

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:58 PM, horrido wrote: > Interestingly, I'm getting a fair amount of pushback on this. Personally, I > think it would be very helpful to have a live (updatable, so as to keep it > current) reference page for the class library, something that

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Gour I do not know. I'm (I nd time) working on a starterKit to be shipped on USB and this script could be used to download during the night the mooc. I also asked Inria if I could use a bittorrent to share the mooc. I do not think that our servers have a ftp access from outside (I

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Gour
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:55 +0200 Stephane Ducasse wrote: Hello Stef, > I will ask one guy thursday and let you know. Thanks a lot! > We will release Mooc with english voices (not mine else english > natives would get an heart attack - I have what they call a sexy >

[Pharo-users] Embedded PDF viewer?

2017-10-10 Thread Manuel Leuenberger
Hi, I want to view a PDF within Pharo. I found that Athens has a PDF canvas, but I have no idea how to use it. Is there a way to view a PDF within Pharo, so that I can scroll, zoom, click links etc. in the PDF? Cheers, Manuel

Re: [Pharo-users] Embedded PDF viewer?

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi manuel So far I do not know if we have this is Pharo. I imagine that we would have to build a renderer once we will have the PDF reader from Christian library. Stef On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Manuel Leuenberger wrote: > Hi, > > I want to view a PDF within

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Brad Selfridge
OMG!!! "sexy french accents" - you are too much - Brad Selfridge -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Gour
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:02:31 +0200 Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks offray. > I would love to have spanish subtitles. > We will have japanese subtitles Is there possibility to access MOOC files via FTP which should be better interface when one has to donwload many files

[Pharo-users] Custom URI scheme for Pharo

2017-10-10 Thread Manuel Leuenberger
Hi, Is there any support from the VM/Application package to add custom URI schemes to listen to from within Pharo? I would like to have a hyperlink like ‘pharo://send?data=fancypants’ in an arbitrary document that, when clicked, switches to Pharo and calls a hook I can register. Could

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Webwarrior I can tell you that you made my day :) Thanks for this great testimony. Today we discuss about Pablo because he has a working system being able to upload hot code and migrate instance but also the code on the stack. We will see if we integrate it in Pharo but I want the best hot code

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Nothing is unresovable, some problems will require a lot of more hacking sure, but Pharo VM is implemented in C (yeah I know it suppose to be smalltalk but is actually slang compiled to C) and since everything out there uses C anything out there can do live coding. You can do it in billlion

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
No because turing conplete means you have to implement all those live features yourself, I only gave a taste but I return to Python because thats the language I know the most, you can live manipulate objects in so many diffirent ways and mess their structure. Make a method become an instance

Re: [Pharo-users] Embedded PDF viewer?

2017-10-10 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
I have been thinking about this. I don't know if you can have a VNC client inside the image that can be used to render a PDF app, but that would be my first approach, to leverage all the features in the current PDF readers. Cheers, Offray On 10/10/17 14:04, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi manuel

Re: [Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

2017-10-10 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
I would love to. As soon as I finish my PhD (that has become my "anguished motto") I will have time for this community endeavors again. Cheers, Offray On 10/10/17 14:02, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks offray. > I would love to have spanish subtitles. > We will have japanese subtitles > > On

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Yes exactly my post was not an effort to diminish the value of Pharo as live coding system. My effort was to reveal my findings because I have been doing a lot of research lately. I am not keen on abandoning the comforts of Pharo live coding wise now that I code in Python. But to get to Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Custom URI scheme for Pharo

2017-10-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I think I remember this disussed before. By talking with Pharo I assume here about another program talking to Pharo ? Possible not wrriten in Pharo ? If thats the case then you can use whatever IPC works better for your needs. If the communication will be remotely I recommend sockets, for fast

Re: [Pharo-users] Embedded PDF viewer?

2017-10-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Implementation wise this may be possible through a hack, some OS windows can be semi trasparent , this make it possible to overlay one GUI element over the other in this case a PDF with basic scrolling handles. It should be possible with UFFI and some knowledge of OS GUI APIs. Probably much easier

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 encoding'

2017-10-10 Thread monty
I know what the problem is and will have it fixed shortly. Thanks for the report. > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 at 9:03 AM > From: "Peter Kenny" > To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 >

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-10 Thread john pfersich
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 09:58, horrido wrote: > > Interestingly, I'm getting a fair amount of pushback on this. Personally, I > think it would be very helpful to have a live (updatable, so as to keep it > current) reference page for the class library, something that