Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
It looks like deferring to the UIManager is ok for the start up. No need to fork at background user level or something like that. Le 12/04/2018 à 12:42, Hilaire a écrit : to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will execute after all the startup actions. However, I was wrong it will not solve the problem of the splash, as the deferred action is still running in maximum priority (maybe this should be changed). And what about UIManager default defer: [], does it run at an acceptable lower priority? -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Le 12/04/2018 à 12:06, teso...@gmail.com a écrit : to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will execute after all the startup actions. However, I was wrong it will not solve the problem of the splash, as the deferred action is still running in maximum priority (maybe this should be changed). And what about UIManager default defer: [], does it run at an acceptable lower priority? So the solution for the splash window will be to fork the process in a lower priority (with an explicit priority) Any idea which priority it should be? Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Hi Pablo, I will one or the other for the Splash screen, The most annoying is the warning message at start up. Can your take a look at this app in your system if it shows up? (the splash is off in this version, so it should not cause trouble) https://www.dropbox.com/s/te2gel05u1y1sp9/DrGeo.app.zip?dl=0 Thanks Hilaire Le 12/04/2018 à 12:06, teso...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi Hilaire, to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will execute after all the startup actions. However, I was wrong it will not solve the problem of the splash, as the deferred action is still running in maximum priority (maybe this should be changed). So the solution for the splash window will be to fork the process in a lower priority (with an explicit priority) -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Hi Hilaire, to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will execute after all the startup actions. However, I was wrong it will not solve the problem of the splash, as the deferred action is still running in maximum priority (maybe this should be changed). So the solution for the splash window will be to fork the process in a lower priority (with an explicit priority) Cheers On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Removing the Splash screen avoid locking the image. About deferred action, > how do you do it? > > However why do I have this start up message about Pharo not been properly > claused? > > The installation of the app ends with a proper save and quit. > > DrGeoInstallerWorkstation>>install > super install. > DrGDefault beWorkstation. > self cleanUpForRelease. > Author fullName: 'MrCleaner'. > Smalltalk saveAs: 'drgeo'. > World submorphs > select: [:m | m class == (Smalltalk at: #DrGeoWindow)] > thenDo: [:drMorph | drMorph deleteWithoutConfirmation ]. > > self cleanMySelf. > Smalltalk fixObsoleteReferences. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > > PharoChangesCondenser condense. > ExternalDropHandler registerHandler: > (ExternalDropHandler > type: nil > extension: 'fgeo' > action: [ :stream | DrGeo fullscreenOn: stream ]). > > Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true. > > > What is even strange, when I run the buid in the system building it, this > message does not show up? > > Any idea? > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > Le 10/04/2018 à 21:36, teso...@gmail.com a écrit : > >> In Pharo 7 the startup of the session runs in higher priority so it >> cannot be interrupted. >> This is done in that way to fix some problems during the initialization >> of the session (Now, I could not remember what was fixed). >> > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > > > -- Pablo Tesone. teso...@gmail.com
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Not like that. Pablo proposed to help you and he is much better than me :) I'm busy with administria. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Hi Stef, > > No clue why I have this warning message at start up? > > Hilaire > > Le 11/04/2018 à 21:48, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : >> >> Hi hilaire >> >> Favor Smalltalk globals at: #... over Smalltalk at: # >> >> Stef > > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > >
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Hi Stef, No clue why I have this warning message at start up? Hilaire Le 11/04/2018 à 21:48, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : Hi hilaire Favor Smalltalk globals at: #... over Smalltalk at: # Stef -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Hi hilaire Favor Smalltalk globals at: #... over Smalltalk at: # Stef On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Removing the Splash screen avoid locking the image. About deferred action, > how do you do it? > > However why do I have this start up message about Pharo not been properly > claused? > > The installation of the app ends with a proper save and quit. > > DrGeoInstallerWorkstation>>install > super install. > DrGDefault beWorkstation. > self cleanUpForRelease. > Author fullName: 'MrCleaner'. > Smalltalk saveAs: 'drgeo'. > World submorphs > select: [:m | m class == (Smalltalk at: #DrGeoWindow)] > thenDo: [:drMorph | drMorph deleteWithoutConfirmation ]. > > self cleanMySelf. > Smalltalk fixObsoleteReferences. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > > PharoChangesCondenser condense. > ExternalDropHandler registerHandler: > (ExternalDropHandler > type: nil > extension: 'fgeo' > action: [ :stream | DrGeo fullscreenOn: stream ]). > > Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true. > > > What is even strange, when I run the buid in the system building it, this > message does not show up? > > Any idea? > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > Le 10/04/2018 à 21:36, teso...@gmail.com a écrit : >> >> In Pharo 7 the startup of the session runs in higher priority so it cannot >> be interrupted. >> This is done in that way to fix some problems during the initialization of >> the session (Now, I could not remember what was fixed). > > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > >
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Removing the Splash screen avoid locking the image. About deferred action, how do you do it? However why do I have this start up message about Pharo not been properly claused? The installation of the app ends with a proper save and quit. DrGeoInstallerWorkstation>>install super install. DrGDefault beWorkstation. self cleanUpForRelease. Author fullName: 'MrCleaner'. Smalltalk saveAs: 'drgeo'. World submorphs select: [:m | m class == (Smalltalk at: #DrGeoWindow)] thenDo: [:drMorph | drMorph deleteWithoutConfirmation ]. self cleanMySelf. Smalltalk fixObsoleteReferences. Smalltalk garbageCollect. Smalltalk garbageCollect. Smalltalk garbageCollect. PharoChangesCondenser condense. ExternalDropHandler registerHandler: (ExternalDropHandler type: nil extension: 'fgeo' action: [ :stream | DrGeo fullscreenOn: stream ]). Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true. What is even strange, when I run the buid in the system building it, this message does not show up? Any idea? Thanks Hilaire Le 10/04/2018 à 21:36, teso...@gmail.com a écrit : In Pharo 7 the startup of the session runs in higher priority so it cannot be interrupted. This is done in that way to fix some problems during the initialization of the session (Now, I could not remember what was fixed). -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Hi Sean, it is the exactly the same behavior. Cheers. On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:38 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > HilaireFernandes wrote > > Any idea? > > Can you try starting with `--no-default-preferences` and see if it's the > same? > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > -- Pablo Tesone. teso...@gmail.com
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
HilaireFernandes wrote > Any idea? Can you try starting with `--no-default-preferences` and see if it's the same? - Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Thanks I will dig on that direction. By the way, DrGeo code at SH is obsolete. Pharo7 port is at http://dev.drgeo.eu, more precisely https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~drgeo-developers/drgeo/trunk/files/head:/src/ I should update the information page. Thanks for the tips Le 10/04/2018 à 21:36, teso...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi Hilaire, I have seen the same problem when trying to reproduce the error with FreeTypeFonts. I can see that the problem arise because there is a startUp of a class that is calling the #splash method. This method uses Delay. As this is run during the startup of the classes, it runs with the higher priority. Taking precedence over the Delay scheduling process. In Pharo 7 the startup of the session runs in higher priority so it cannot be interrupted. This is done in that way to fix some problems during the initialization of the session (Now, I could not remember what was fixed). I believe this actions should be executed as a deferred action. Also I have found a problem with the requirement of the UIThemeWatery class, I have fixed it extending UITheme with a new subclass (same behavior) so the code can be loaded. If you want I can help you to port DrGeo to Pharo7. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up
Hi Hilaire, I have seen the same problem when trying to reproduce the error with FreeTypeFonts. I can see that the problem arise because there is a startUp of a class that is calling the #splash method. This method uses Delay. As this is run during the startup of the classes, it runs with the higher priority. Taking precedence over the Delay scheduling process. In Pharo 7 the startup of the session runs in higher priority so it cannot be interrupted. This is done in that way to fix some problems during the initialization of the session (Now, I could not remember what was fixed). I believe this actions should be executed as a deferred action. Also I have found a problem with the requirement of the UIThemeWatery class, I have fixed it extending UITheme with a new subclass (same behavior) so the code can be loaded. If you want I can help you to port DrGeo to Pharo7. Cheers, Pablo On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Hi, > I have this strange situation with a DrGeo built against P7, where DrGeo > starts, but then get frozen with this message. > Strangely the start seems not to have completed as the UI messages are not > localized in French. > > What is strange, on my PC where I built the app, this problem does not > occur. > > Any idea? > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > -- Pablo Tesone. teso...@gmail.com
