What does the paillards echophone sell for?
Steve
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the poor, weak,
motor only sometimes able to get through a 4 minute record.
-- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com
On Sep 3, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
Good point, until the Gem A got the B reproducer in 1902 the carriage would
have to be changed to accomodate the H reproducer
Hello, Who was the man selling the Exhibition flanges he made at the Orlando
show? Steve
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The sign was the only way John's friends could get money out of him. Steve
What a great story and what a great bunch of friends to have. My friends
only want to borrow money...
Dave
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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
Here is what one should look like, small file. Note the large gear is missing
with the shifter as Al has said.
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
From: clockworkh...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:17:48 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Gem 2 4 conversion question
Greetings Everyone:
I have
Hello Al, Where do you get your leather for the belts? Here is Barge Cement for
those who like me had never heard of it:
http://www.amazon.com/BARGE-DA081-Barge-Cement/dp/B002JL2ZHE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1314492925sr=8-1
Steve
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
From: clockworkh...@aol.com
Date: Sat,
Hello all, I currently have an automatic with the thin .8 ounce weight that has
one of the shoulders that hold the stylus bar in place broke off. Does anyone
have an automatic weight or early unmarked B weight for sale? Is there anyone
that could machine a new one? Thanks for your kind
Edison did not make one but he did include them briefly in the early days and
later on with the Edisonic DD phonograp they are found with the Edison lateral
reproducer. I believe Union made the early ones. I will send photos when I
get home.
From: b...@taney.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011
record catalogue in the world.
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Phono-l
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Berliner record
Thanks, I guess the 5 was made for a toy
You will note this is the first style of O with the small O stamped in the
weight and the turn over knob with no pointer and the arrows on the end. The
knurling is on the end. Around 8000 the large O stamped weights appear and
around 9000 the knurling was inside and the arrows on the end.
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Medved
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:21 PM
To: Phono-l; phonolist
Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner record
Hello, Is this actually one of the first Berliner records? Steve
http://cgi.ebay.com/250864718289
Hello, Is this actually one of the first Berliner records? Steve
http://cgi.ebay.com/250864718289
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Test successful, hopefully John will get this as well. Steve
From: lo...@oldcrank.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:14:04 -0700
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Test
Been working on the server this morning. Just making sure everything is up
running!
Thanks,
Loran
Jim that I work with was looking into this as a substitute for chrome since
chrome is so expensive due to environmental concerns. He decided against it
because of all the prep work involved. The seller told him how easy it was but
once he got serious and began to ask questions the
Hello,
Is the a polyphone horn?
Steve
http://cgi.ebay.com/200632290986?clk_rvr_id=249607909914
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:33:53 -0700
From: smst...@gmail.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
Just take it over to Youtube. It there..
WWW. youtube.com/watch?v=yf5_a_AXivM
Join the link
Hello Mark Dawson, Have you ever seen a Woledge Amberola 30, or an Amberola 60
or 80?Living in NZ has its challenges phono wise but it also has
opportunities that most of us will never get to experience. Best regards,
Steve
I am a humble kiwi who would like to attend the phono show
http://www.nps.gov/edis/photosmultimedia/talking-doll-record-hear-the-recording.htm
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and just soaking with Kroil will usually get it going again. Not
all potmetal of that period is defective. Oxidized 3 in 1 is a powerful
adhesive though.
On 07/08/2011 08:31 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
If I remember correctly the home and triumph pot metal bearings are thick,
I
Back when I used to look at all the Edison cylinder records on eBay I saw about
6 of them for sale on eBay over the years. I saved a photo of the 3 pack, it
has the old couple listening on the other side. The old couple has a copyright
of 190 and I cannot see the last number. It looks like
mineral oil with no rust or
oxidation inhibitors and just soaking with Kroil will usually get it
going again. Not all potmetal of that period is defective. Oxidized 3 in
1 is a powerful adhesive though.
On 07/08/2011 08:31 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
If I remember correctly
Jim, I would not call the cardboard boxes common they are harder to find than
the Edison Standard Record boxes which I have seen about 50 of over the years.
The boxes drawn on the cardboard box itself are common. Out of 2000 boxes 6
were the standard record boxes in one random lot. Steve
I would appreciate the scan, no hurry. Your photo was very nice, much nicer
than the other one I have. I enjoy photos of things I will likely never see in
person.
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 21:00:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison
If I remember correctly the home and triumph pot metal bearings are thick, I
would think if the shaft could be removed the bearing could be reamed out to
the correct size and it could be used. Has anyone ever tried this? Steve
http://cgi.ebay.com/260383447532 Its back. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:11:27 -0700
From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Beware of this seller on Ebay
I don't know if this is appropriate, but I will post it anyway. I have a
Language phone disc machine made
I tried this, I had to count the times it hit my finger.
From: tom...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:58:30 -0500
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cylinder speed tester
Please don't laugh, but I stick a small piece of paper under the edge of the
cylinder on the mandrel and
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:59:01 -0800
From: lekirk...@sbcglobal.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio
I am Brandy Kirk and I am so sorry to let you know that (pappa)Lee passed
away January 28th at home.
Hello Al, Here is a copy of the e-mail
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=7t=5543 Hi Ron, It is
muriatic acid. Steve
From: lhera...@bu.edu
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:01:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] frozen Edison Home pot metal bearing
I read somewhere about a technique involving
Al, If you have ever been able to use those cylinder strobes you are much
better than I ever was. The laser tachometers works very well. My one was
right on, the other one was off by 1 rpm, but my DD that was at 76. Those
rings are 1 6/10's of an inch apart and most machines do not have
Hi Mike, Norman found it cheaper, but that is the one both Dave Dazer and I
have. http://cgi.ebay.com/150600097532
This is the one I have and Norman found it cheaper than I got it for.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001N4QY66/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8qid=1309982274sr=8-1condition=new
, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:
Al, If you have ever been able to use those cylinder strobes you are much
better than I ever was. The laser tachometers works very well. My one was
right on, the other one was off by 1 rpm, but my DD that was at 76. Those
However, his filament had low resistance, thus needing heavy copper wires to
supply it. Jim, You are an electrical engineer, how much copper would have been
necessary to provide a working low resistance lighting system for all of
England? My understanding is that to employ a low resistance
I've heard many people say that Edison didn't do ANYTHING worthwhile, or simply
took credit for others' work.
That is interesting because Edison stopped using patents and started using
trade secrets because of all of his work that was stolen. That is why we have
so little written
I like the yoke assembly of the Model O reproducer with the tiny -160 screw
that goes into the stylus bar and holds on the washer with .019 arms that no
one makes today because it is too complicated. 100 years later one would
assume those items would be easily made. Steve
From:
According to Wikipedia Farmer inspired Edison: With his partner William
Wallace, he invented the an early dynamo which powered a system of arc lights
he exhibited at the Centennial Exhibition of 1876 in Philadelphia, and which
inspired Thomas Edison to work on an improved incandescent light.
In a free-market economy, things are, by definition, worth the highest price
they can command.
This is true under most conditions and would be true if the top 2 bidders knew
what it was. Some people thought it was an Alva and the triumph is my favorite
machine and I have photos of the Alva
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem_trksid=p4340.l2557rt=ncnma=trueitem=370516172743
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Rich, off list,
If Eric Holder and Wiener ran for president it would be Wiener Holder.
I really liked the dig you got r in.
Steve
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:39:45 -0500
From: rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I'll buy that and what is your address? - A
On the special machines Edison started the serial numbers with 1001, like the
Amberola 60 and 80. With regards to the number known you have to rely upon
other collectors to provide serial numbers and with rare machines this is
normally not possible.
I am still looking for O reproducer
For the original owner it was a good way to repair a broken 30 with earlier
parts. If you have ever worked on machines that were repaired by owners you
can appreciate this. The machine has appeal only as a parts machine to me.
Awesome? I don't think so. And I know you were kidding.
--Art
Does anyone have a recording of this they can e-mail me?
Steve
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The 2 minute cylinders made of the wax amberol wax are that way, but the
regular ones are very durable. In 2015 all the 2 minute Edison cylinders will
be over 100 years old and look at all of the ones still around. If the wax
amberol wax was stored properly they are not that bad either.
Bruce,
In the case of a machine like yours even if if there are twice as many existing
as are currently known it is a very hard to find machine.
Steve
Steve, I agree completely and hope for collectors interested in these
machines that at least a few more will be found. The thing that
Barry,
With regards to machines like the Amberola 60 and 80 I have tried to research
how many were made or left and so far I have not had much luck. I think it is
great to see how many machines were made and how many survive.
Like The Edison C-2, I thought it was so rare I would never
Hello Jay,
It is a beautiful machine and in my opinion it would sell for more than a
regular Gem. I like how someone fixed it up.
Speaking of fixing things up does anyone have any photos of the horns the
Smiths used to sell that they had restored? They came to the Orlando show and
just
Body and case are wood, painted black. Edison did not paint cases and lids
black, especially covering his trademark decal on the lid. This did not come
from the factory like that.
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:20:57 -0400
Subject:
As far as he knows is a very loaded statement. In other words within the realm
of his knowledge. He is either a cheat or knows very little.
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
From: smst...@gmail.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Ward an
:37 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
The best way to check out an S reproducer is to gently blow and suck in the
sound tube to see how much of an air leak you have. Originally the R and S
was made with a slot to allow the compression ring to be tightened or
loosened to control the sound
If you buy a reproducer you can count on the diamond being bad, 2 and only 2 of
the Diamond ABC reproducers I have rebuilt have had good diamonds, the rest
were worn or damaged. I purchased an Edisonic on eBay with a good diamond and
recently I did a Dance and and Edisonic for a man and both
From Ron D:
Bill, I assume they finally recorded DDs at 78 because it was the
same speed as needle cut Edison discs.
The change was made in Feb. 1929 when the old 79 Fifth Avenue Studios
were abandoned for new ones further
up 5th avenue. All DDs with matrix numbers of 19025 and above were
The best thing is to alway bid, I got mine for around $70. The 2 minute BA is
loud and clear with more surface noise than a regular wax cylinder. The wax
amberol wax cylinders when worn have a lot more surface noise.
http://www.wwindups.com/
This has the Smith's contact info.
From: maff...@bresnan.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:14:59 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Tone arm cast mount for Victor VV 2-40 needed( Norm Smith
contact info)
Phono Listers:
Does anyone on this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edison-Reproducer-Copper-Diaphragm-New-Old-stock-/250785024210
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..that is
sad.
I think the early Guy Lombardo's on the Okeh label from the late 1920s
are not half bad actually. Same goes with Lawrence Welk from the late
1920s.
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To: Phono-l phono-l
Those are impossible to enjoy no matter what the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4qcCIH0yg0
NAH ITS A GUY LOMBARDO
That's right... you snatched a Black Swan out of my hands and gave me a Glen
Miller saying I'd enjoy it more. Jerry
the late 1920s.
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To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 10:37 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Black Patti... Black Swan
hose are impossible to enjoy no matter what the song.
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch
I belong to both CAPS and MAPS, both are very enjoyable. My favorite issue of
The Sound Box is September 2006 with the George Paul Home article. I keep it
on my desk and reference it often. That one article was worth my membership
dues for all the years I have belonged to the new and
Hello Sean,
You are correct, the No 4 was made to allow people who could not afford a new
machine to play electrical records. The first nickel and gold plated ones are
made of brass, the later No 4 A 's are pot metal. Some of the 4 A 's have
a No 2 mica in an aluminum reducer.
The HMV
Hello Brad,
If an Edison record remained in the catalog long enough it can be found in the
earliest form, celluloid surfaces, and the last style of white label. I
believe Let Us Not Forget came out around the time when the surface noise was
the worse and I have seen it in white label on
Did you enjoy the Glen Miller more? If it was this one you would have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HeiunP7flgfeature=fvst
Steve
That's right... you snatched a Black Swan out of my hands and gave me a Glen
Miller saying I'd enjoy it more. Jerry
http://cgi.ebay.com/160549040696
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The earlier phonos had the first letter of the machine in the serial number
like the H in home and S in standard and G in gem.
The early C and D models have the C or D at the end of the serial number.
In 1908 for a while the B C and D models were made at the same time which is
why you
What got me interested was the drawing in the Frow book, I figured if it was so
rare that only a drawing was available I wanted to find one. Years later I saw
one on eBay and I decided to wait until the auction ended and I wrote the buyer
who thanked me and sent me photos. So far I have seen
steve_nor...@msn.com
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Is this title being newly made?
Steve
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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Medved
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:49 AM
To: Phono-l
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder
in percentage, not rpm. So it is now easy for me
to find 76 rpm and 80rpm. I still think that these standard speeds are too
fast for some records, particularly those made before about 1912.
GrnMountianBill
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote
The interesting thing is knowing the speed of your machine without all that
effort.
Steve
It all may be a moot point really that you have the speed dialed in to such
accuracy but it is an interesting topic.
Mike
Oldcranky
My Standard A, Triumph A and E do not have them. I had one home and one
standard that had them but I sold them both.
What is wrong with the timing marks on the carriage support rod? It is
already paid for.
On 02/01/2011 08:00 AM, Steven Medved wrote:
Hello Cylinder Phono owners
, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:
Hello Cylinder Phono owners,
Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your cylinder player
or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger? If so you can
measure the RPM's with the:
Wood/Metal Lathe
If they are 4 minute.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:58:26 -0800
From: nickja...@gmail.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Brain cramp
I should know this but I can't come up with a confident answer can
one play Col/Indestructible celluloid cyls on an Amberola?
If I had an A1 with an M.
How do the Lamberts sound? The Blue Amberol 2 minute records have a lot of
surface noise.
Steve
So you gonna play those Pink Lamberts on those Amberolas?lol.
I do have a Indestructible reproducer in a box somewhere around the house.4
Min tho'
Mike
I think that the detailed description is one of the keys to successful
selling on e-bay. I have never had the knack of doing that.
=
Lightfoot IA was an eBay seller with good feedback. He would take common 2
minute Edison gold molded records and sell
This phonograph was rarely used, and the evidence of that is borne out in
aspect of its appearance, regardless of the angle from which it is viewed.
You can normally tell how much a phonograph has been played by the brass gears.
Herman found a Triumph E and the small brass gears had no
I think I have only seen one on eBay.
now the book by frow and al shows a g
anyone seen a g
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The Florida show was even better than last year, it was laid out very nicely.
The dealers I spoke with told me they did better this year than last. I did
not get to talk with Joan this year, she was busy each time I went by but I did
enjoy seeing her and Rob as I walked by. Bob Cole did a
Mike,
Your T and your TAE phonos both have cranks, don't they?
Steve
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:09:58 -0800
From: smst...@gmail.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG
I agree Rich. It is clearly marked and it is just friends talking. The mod
is very hands off. That is
Not if it has electronic or online postage, I do it all the time. Next time
read the restriction note.
I mail on a regular basis, I work at the airport so the airport post office is
very convenient.
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:16:59 -0800
From: back...@yahoo.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Both.
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:27:35 -0800
From: john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
Hello all
Well, after I had offered it here with no takers, I had listed my Theodore
Roosevelt cylinder on eBay, It used to be that they went
PayPal is good for first class and media, USPS.com is good for priority.
Thanks for you comment, I did not know that.
Steve
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:48:31 -0800
From: back...@yahoo.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping
One other thing to consider is
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now
Did you know you can ship things via PayPal? I just finished rebuilding a
reproducer and I was able to purchase the postage for the same price as the guy
who sent it to me plus an extra 19 cents for the delivery confirmation, it is
well
Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get
photos. A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be
happy to sell me one for $1500.
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800
From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
When I receive an answer to my question from an eBay seller and I click on the
link is says removed so I believe eBay has a problem with links.
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:37:22 -0800
From: john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor on Ebay
Strange. When I
Does anyone have any idea when( i.e.- what serial number range or date) Edison
stopped putting
the “ National Phonograph” medallion cranks on the suitcase Homes and began
using the plain cranks ?
I would be interested in knowing what year they stopped making them for the
other phonographs
Was this the person who called himself Auntie Dodo?
Whoa. If it's who I'm thinking it is, he's been around for a while - I
remember him from the Phonatics AOL list days (way back in the mid-90's). I
don't remember his name either, but as I recall, he would use his mother's
address on
If you look at his ratings they are actually quite good.
Hi all! I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this individual in the
past. I guess I'll provide a contrarian view to those experiences posted
thus far. I purchased an Edison machine from him and it was packed
...), but
based on personal experience, both my own and that of my friend and
customer, I can only conclude that this seller is dangerous. He
certainly doesn't appear to make any effort to play by the same rules.
That's my take on it.
Andy
On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steven Medved wrote
Wasn't this the person who had the Triumph A that appeared in numerous
'original' configurations?
This reproducer has a C stylus and bar and a reproduction hinge block. Many D
reproducers have C stylus and bars, perhaps because they were used to play the
regular cylinders after the Concert
I thought Mike was old cranky.
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:35:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Think streaming internet music is new? Check out this
phonograph service from 1910...
Hi Loran,
Sorry about the link not working
I used a wire brush handle to make a spanner for the Edison compression rings.
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:02:21 -0800
From: dda...@sbcglobal.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola reproducer
Make a spanner wrench out of a length of wood and two pins placed at the
burdettewalt...@yahoo.com
webmas...@misteropera.com
http://teen-boy-preview.com/index.html
From: maff...@bresnan.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:20:30 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] contact info requested
All:
I received the following earlier this year to an
-preview.com?? Did you get your email hijacked?
John
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To: Phono-l
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] contact info requested
Sent: Nov 18, 2010 3:29 PM
burdettewalt...@yahoo.com
appear in the first email and I was worried...
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:46:36
To: Phono-lphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List
Ron said it very well. I would favor a mint machine over a restored one but I
would not discriminate over a restored machine as that is the only way most
people can own a mint looking machine. I would also love to have a 1795 silver
dollar in uncirculated condition, but I had to settle for
Depends on the condition.
From: tom...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:06:17 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] Original or restored?
I have always believed in keeping my phonographs in as close to original
condition as is possible. Fixing them, but not stripping and
. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have
posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at
this link:
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/
John Robles
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moves which results in a
more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not
satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to
suspend the horn from the crane.
Greg Bogantz
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moves which results in a
more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not
satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to
suspend the horn from the crane.
Greg Bogantz
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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Hello,
Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without
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