Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread clockworkhome
Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know by getting hot. How about a photo of the motor? Most good motor shops can fix anything from fractional horsepower to 100 HP.

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
Al,Thanks for the reply. As you noted, I have been advised that it was a short in the motor somewhere. The problem seems to be that this motor is wound for three different types of power - AC/DC and maybe 220. So, either the shops don't know what the problem is or they just don't want to mess

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Check the resister. If its value is too big the motor will slow down under load. -Barry On 2/14/2013 11:23 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
The statement ___short in the motor somewhere___ is shop speak that you don't want to pay what it will cost for us to figure out how to fix it. What Barry said is where to start. The wiring is a mess as well. On 02/15/2013 08:15 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I don't know if it's because I am using

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
OK, if it is a universal motor... where would I find one? Are there any specs on universal motors - rpms, amps, hp, etc.? This motor is puzzling since it doesn't have an ID or any spec info. Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:04:15 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject:

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
Actually, I found a smaller version of this motor in an early home video projector. I would have bought it, but it was frozen... From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:27:06 -0500 OK, if it is a

Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery

2013-02-15 Thread Jim Cartwright
The electrical stop will stop the turntable shortly after the last inner groove, right after the music ends, whereas the regular stop must be set for the longest record in the collection on shorter records will allow the turntable to keep turning until this point is reached. By the way, has

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Steven Medved
I use IE9 and mine all run together as well. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:15:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question I don't know if it's because I am using Google Chrome, but my posts get run together. If you copy

Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery

2013-02-15 Thread Philip Carli
The very late electric DDs were probably recorded with a split signal, one for vertical and the other going to a lateral machine for Needle-Cut discs, so the shorter playing duration of the latter determined the length of selection. The longest DD by far that I have is a very early violin

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Jim Nichol
Al didn't say you had a short. He said you had an open. They are opposites of each other. He only mentioned shorted turns to imply that they are NOT likely to be the problem. A broken wire is an open, resulting in zero current. A short is two wires touching each other, causing the current

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Andrew Baron
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: ...shorted turns) means that a few of the loops of wire in the coils are shorted together, causing the current to bypass them. The lecture is a good one, especially regarding the importance of appearing knowledgable (or even better, actually

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
Universal Motor means that it will run on AC and DC and various voltages. On 02/15/2013 10:27 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: OK, if it is a universal motor... where would I find one? Are there any specs on universal motors - rpms, amps, hp, etc.? This motor is puzzling since it doesn't have an ID

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
He was advised that it was a short. You are correct that the correct condition condition description is OPEN Circuit. If the fields happen to be in parallel then that would be where I would start looking. On 02/15/2013 01:04 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: Al didn't say you had a short. He said you

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread rick
Okay, Curt is looking to replace the motor or have this motor fixed if possible. Can anyone on the list help Curt in maybe fixing the motor so it runs properly or finidng a replacement motor? -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Jim Nichol
If this is a Universal motor, it can be easily identified by having carbon brushes riding on a commutator. A Universal motor is really a DC motor that has been specially designed to also work on AC. Whereas an Induction motor is AC-only, and is an entirely different thing (no brushes). Any

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
Some of these motors have round brushes constructed from tightly rolled up brass screen. If this motor has that type of brush they are most likely dirty and oxidized. They are the first thing to check and they are cleaned by removing and soaking in carburetor cleaner. Do not sand them or the

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
Jim Rich,Thanks for the info. My motor is definitely a Universal motor with carbon brushes. The brushes are in excellent shape and the armature runs true. The main problem I'm having is shorts, as opposed to opens. The motor runs until a load is applied, then you can basically shut it down

Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery

2013-02-15 Thread DanKj
I believe that's because they were waxing both Needle-Type and Diamond Discs at the same time, so could only fit what would go on the shorter Lateral sides. - Original Message - From: Jim Cartwright jim...@earthlink.net . By the way, has anyone noticed that the later diamond

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
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