This could be a real sleeper!! Some of the older and more ornate Widdicomb
Furniture Pieces are still highly prized today and go for big bucks!! This
certainly could be very close to a one of kind prized Widdicomb made oddity
!!
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Mercer
:When somebody hijacks your ebay account and then puts iems on ebay, why
doesn't the offended party find out immediatiely about the posting. Since
ebay always sends an immediate confriming email to the account holders email
address, that would be the red flag that signals that illegal activity
Yes, exactly my sentiments about the description. My suspicion is that they
know about this machine and who altered it and why, but then again this is
all speculative, and they want some numbskull to think they know nothing
about these machines, and hope some one will think it is some one of a
Wow, certainly a deal that is too good to pass up!! Which is certainly what
the seller is hoping.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:03 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Does this look fishy???
This
Yes, perhaps we are too quick to judge. Could be some poor soul down on his
luck, who inherited this machine, and needs cash in a hurry. Quick Marjie,
warm up the Van, we are heading for California!!
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com
To: Antique
Spencer Talked at his own Funeral
Bruce, the link takes you to the registration page for the NYT. That is
why it fails unless it is you with your cookies.
BruceY wrote:
That is strange, when I click on the link below, I get the whole news
artcle from December of 1914. I don't understand
own Funeral
Anyone know what happened to the records after being locked up? Do you
suppose any of them still survive?
Dan
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From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:14 AM
Subject: Re
The Lyceum Theatre is at
- Original Message -
From: George Glastris glast...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Len Spencer's Lyceum
Most likely they were used for sing alongs between acts. They
Ok, here is the text of G.W. Johnson's death: Rumors have alleged that the
first Black recording star died either in a racism motivated lynching, or
alternatively that he was hanged after he committed murder. Neither story is
true. George W. Johnson died apparently of natural causes, while in
Hmmm I think there is some confusion here. From what I understand,
Spencer's friend and fellow entertainer George W. Johnson, the first black
ever to make a phonograph record, had the job as doorman, and he also had a
room there as well.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: John Maeder
Ok, for those who are interested, here is the full text of it. Spencer
indeed had hired Johnson as the doorman at the Lyceum, and Johnson also had
a room there. Johnson died in January of 1914 followed by Spencer who died
there that same year in December.
Fred Rabenstein, Edison's longtime
I am not familiar with that model number, I have a model 430-2 Upright
Aeloian Vocalion. I assume like most of their machines it has the so-called
Graduola Feature, which you can have a load of fun demonstrating to visitors
as the worlds first remote volume control!! so find out if it has this
I have U.S. Everlasting Cylinder-The Fireman's Song, sung by Hamilton Hill, and
have often wondered about it, since it is sung by a British Singer who did very
few selections for American Record Companies. Like most U.S. Everlastin
Cylinders it is remarkably loud and clear, and this one has
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170189982070ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123
I just noticed this on ebay. I don't think it comes up that often, so if anyone
might be interested here is your chance for an Edison Cylinder version .
Bruce
From ronbr...@aol.com Tue Feb 5 14:42:46
to all,
Robert
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 15 3/4 Pathe Records, and Music Service Co.
What type of phonograph would they be playing these 15
,
Robert
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 15 3/4 Pathe Records, and Music Service Co.
What type of phonograph would they be playing these 15 3
sapphire ball stylus to play mine and it works great.
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 15 3/4 Pathe Records, and Music Service Co.
Oh, I forgot to ask
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250219889912indexURL=9photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
You just don't see these very often. A rare Pathe Art model phonograph with and
electric motor for the turntable. Unfortunately no shipping, you have to pick
it up and its on the West
It looks like once the bidding progressed passed the 400 dollar mark, then 3
bidders put in proxy bids where automatic bidding took over and raised it up
to the crazy, unexplainable amount you see now. There is either a bidding
war going on here or heaven forbid some high tech schilling going
There is no doubt that this was work of a deranged mad man, to create this
ultimate CRAPANOLA!!
- Original Message -
From: est...@localnet.com
To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:05 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Franken-Crapophone
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the paperboard boxes with spindles came first
before the big 48 numbered suitcase style box also with spindles. I believe
the paperboard box was supplied to the customer who purchaed the early
cylinder records which were sold with a record slip. The Record slip
This has got to be an exceptionally early Frank Seamans pre Zonophone Machine?
does anyone know what model this is? does it look all original?? This fellow
has a live auction going on here. It even has a buyers premium of 22.5%. There
is not even a full description of the items as to condition
horn (but not the horn that's currently on it).? I
never heard of a Frank Seamans pre Zonophone Machine other than the
Gibson Gramophone, the Montross Berliner, or perhaps a United States
Talking Machine, and this is not any of those.
George Paul
-Original Message-
From: BruceY
That's really great, looks like you found some nice cylinders there, but
remember, you shouldn't try to play them in your Hexaphone, I believe that
only takes the Blue Amberols.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: ger ge...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
...@oldcrank.org]
On Behalf Of BruceY
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:13 AM
To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Long Throat Reproducer
I recently acquiried a Columbia AH Graphophone. The reproducer is a long
throat and the printing under the Micah, merely
Is this for real?? or a hoax?? Some non-collector just sent this to me. A
recording from the 1860's
Bruce
http://www.firstsounds.org/sounds/
... Although I am sure you have already heard about
this!!!
Perhaps the most horrific one is Arthur Fields (Burned to death in
Conflagration). The sadest one is Ada Jones, died at age 40, and none of the
informants (relatives) knew the names of the parents of this wonderfully
talented and popular star of her time, to put on the Death Certificate.
-
Not only did they not have the information about Ada Jones parent's names,
but her age at time of death on the death certificate is incorrect as well.
Every source that I have seen gives her birth year as 1873, that would have
made her at least 48 at the time of her death in 1922, but the age
streets of the town.
In
that day, who'da thunk that it would ever matter?
[Original Message]
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: 4/12/2008 8:47:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information
Still trying to pin down
that the people in North Carolina of the
time could tell if you were dead of natural causes and needed to be buried
without several pieces of paper.
BruceY wrote:
Ok, this detailed information about the circumstances concerning her
death seems to confirm that the Death Certificate was hurriedly
several pieces of paper.
BruceY wrote:
Ok, this detailed information about the circumstances concerning her
death seems to confirm that the Death Certificate was hurriedly prepared
in order to expedite the shipping of the her body back to New York!! (you
must have a completed Death
But I don't see a photo of her gravestone there, Just the monument showing
the name of the Cemetery, is there a way to see the Gravestone and the
dates?
- Original Message -
From: Loran T. Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, April 13,
mattered. Does that sound right?
[Original Message]
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: 4/13/2008 9:30:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re: Ada Jones, Unmarked Grave
Wow here is a photo of Ada, I had never seen before, I know she had
Certainly a bizarre combination. The original owner must have wanted a way
to play his Pathe's and Edison Records on an Orthophonic Era Victor. I
wounder what that did to the magnificent sound generated by the orthophonic
credenza?
- Original Message -
From: est...@localnet.com
To:
Yes, and still a good deal if you can get it at the 99 cent minimum bid and
then drive down to Pa. and haul it back home.
- Original Message -
From: Ron L lhera...@bu.edu
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L]
AND
Monarch Talking Machines. In other words, this is a Monarch, not a
Victor Monarch.
Loran
On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:12 PM, BruceY wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310042039598ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Here is a unique item for someone who owns a Victor Monarch
, this is a Monarch, not a Victor
Monarch.
Loran
On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:12 PM, BruceY wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310042039598ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Here is a unique item for someone who owns a Victor Monarch Talking
Machine. It is a program from a Turn
?
Loran
On Apr 17, 2008, at 4:14 PM, BruceY wrote:
Sorry I must have gotten my history of these machines a little mixed up
or something. So the Monarch was a pre-victor era model but was still
offered by Eldridge Johnson with no referance to the Victor Talking
Machine Company, which
According to a history I just read concerning the Victor Talking Machine
Co., they very briefly used the word Monarch as their trademark, here is
the excerpt, this could also explain the reason that the exhibitor was using
these two different names for this talking machines. Did the name plates
the history says that the Monarch Trade Mark was used on instruments for
only one season. This seems to confirm my suspicions about the reason for
the two names on the Promotional Program by the Exhibitor, making it a very
unique and rare reference to the two different Trademarked Talking
: Re: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program
Hi Bruce, I've heard of the use of the Monarch name on Victor 10 records
but not machines. What history were you reading?
RMV
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program
Hi Bruce, I've heard of the use of the Monarch name on Victor 10 records
but not machines. What history were you reading?
RMV
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent
, I've heard of the use of the Monarch name on Victor 10 records
but not machines. What history were you reading?
RMV
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re
You should have sent a message to this list about Uncle Josh and Uncle Josh
records. We have some folks on this list who are resident experts on the
subject. Have you found alot of Cal Stewart Selections??
- Original Message -
From: ger ge...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List
http://members.aol.com/TAEdisonJR/edisonjr.htm
I had never read this before. What a mostly wasted and tragic life, a part of
the Edison History that most people are not aware, riddled with tragedy,
neglect, fraud, depression disappointment . Well worth the short read, it
gives insight into
Low Bridge Everybody Down was also done by Billy Murray on Victor FP
17250.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: edison edison edison4edi...@hotmail.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] edison clylinder
I wonder if any
Sorry I missed the replies on this one. Did anyone establish what this
really is and who mfg. it?
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: aph4...@aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:50 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Wierd cylinder
OK group. Does anyone have any idea
The Edison Art model, errr the Fletcher Phonograph closed at $7,000.00, not
including the 20% buyers penalty, or Tax, or rip-off or whatever else you might
want to call it.
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150258568430sspagename=ADME:X:AAQ:US:11
Bruce
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220253963458
This Victor VI is currently on ebay. This does not appear to be an original
machine. The horn looks good, check out the rest. The ID plate says VTLA, the
turntable appears to be spray painted over rust. There is an automatic brake
.
Instead, the crank is to the rear. It makes one wonder if someone took an
early case, and a bunch a of parts from other machines and attempted to make
a VI that looks like non-existent Type B!!! any other opinions?
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: BruceY bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Phono
, and a bunch a of parts from other machines and attempted to
make
a VI that looks like non-existent Type B!!! any other opinions?
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org
Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8
The bidding on this Frankenphone VI is now up to $.00, and of course you
cannot see who the bidders are to warn them about this. In fact, I don't
even know if you are allowed to do that, as ebay would probably remove you
from membership for interfering with the sale. Hopefully they are just
Yes that seller deserves a pat on the back. The Franken VI listing, on the
other hand is particularly shameful, since the seller was told by collectors
in detail, verbally and in writing, well in advance of the ebay listing, as
to what she really had !! But went right ahead and listed it as a
http://www.oldcrank.org/chat/
Join us this evening for the Phono-L chat forum anytime after 9:00PM, hope to
see some new folks there tonight.
a reproduction mandrel. We have an excellent
machinist
in
the mocaps group and I bet he could turn one for you.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org
Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:39 PM
Subject: [Phono
on this list to see if a mandrel is available and what it costs. I don't
think anyone makes a reproduction mandrel. We have an excellent machinist
in
the mocaps group and I bet he could turn one for you.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: Phono-l
. Was the motor that clean when you bought
it? Now you will have to find some 5 cylinders. You might try Wyatt's
on
the horn. Their catalogue shows a 14 aluminum horn but no price. It
says
inquire.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: Antique
I never imagined that my ill-begotten terminology would generate such a
remarkably detailed response. Thanks for the advanced education seminar on
the proper lubrication standards of the Talking Machine. I hope to receive
at least 3 continuing education credits for attending this course.
Bruce
Does anyone know the sources of good reproduction 5Concert Cylinder records in
the USA. Is Shawn B. making any?? I know Paul Morris in GB still has them.
Bruce
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180266138721ssPageName=ADME:B:DBS:US:1123
Can someone explain why this common Victor IX Table model is now up to over
$500, with 11 hours to go? Am I missing something here?
Bruce
I just purchased a beautiful all original Victor IX (with legs), clean as a
whistle inside and out complete with several extras including a like new
Dustoff record cleaner and some new/old stock unopened needle packs(medium
tone Gilt edge by Bagshaw,Victrola tungstone,and Brilliantone.) This
-bounces at
oldcrank.org]
On
Behalf Of BruceY
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:49 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor IX
I just purchased a beautiful all original Victor IX (with legs), clean as
a
whistle inside and out complete with several extras including a like
Yes, I believe I have.
Weren't there two versions? one a little more elaborate then the other, and
designed to cleverly fit in around the legs and front and back to give the
illusion that the Machine and Stand are all part of one unit??
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Steven Medved
If your crank is front of center, the control switch is on the top, and the
motor is horizontally mounted, then it is the earliest AH style.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@wowway.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 30,
Have you contacted George Voleema?
- Original Message -
From: kugl...@wmconnect.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VI Horn Machine Metal Tag Needed
I know that this is a crazy, and off the wall question, but would any of
you
http://cgi.ebay.com/Trumpetone-Phonograph_W0QQitemZ330257508082QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0807301175r16728
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=330257508082ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:ITih=014
What kind of material were the horns on these unique little machines made from?
Looks like it could be aluminum?
Bruce
I have first crack at obtaining an electric Victor Credenza VE 830x at a very
reasonable price, but it is missing part of the front grill (one of the
decorative grill sections), and was wondering if there is someone who makes
part of,or the entire grill for an 830, and how much it would be to
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=330257508082ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:ITih=014
I would not have believed it, but then again, these little guys must be quite a
rare item. Here is the final auction price.
Bruce
to them.
You will see pictures of Credenzas, with three lower vertical bars in the
speaker grille, and some with the center bar missing. I believe that the
ones with the three bars were the very early ones. My 8-30X has two bars.
[Original Message]
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: Phono
will be able to
steer you to them.
You will see pictures of Credenzas, with three lower vertical bars in the
speaker grille, and some with the center bar missing. I believe that the
ones with the three bars were the very early ones. My 8-30X has two bars.
[Original Message]
From: BruceY
Congratulations Glen, that appears to be a really early find of Edison DD's
with boxes and binders. I picked up some DD's years ago that were in binders
also 10 records per, but they say Edison Recreations on the front and also
have gold letters on the top of the back binder, along with a metal
Yes, ditto on that. George is trying to track down an item for me right now,
and most of the time he comes through. Very thorough, and you are correct,
always a pleasure to deal with.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Loran Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l
George must be slipping, He has Billy Galvin singing Turkey in the Straw, and
George Johnson singing The Laughing Sailor?? Just a heads up, you may want to
go in and change the description.
http://www.skinnerinc.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2419+740+refno=++759690saletype=
Bruce
http://cgi.ebay.com/Columbia-Concert-Grand-Phonograph-Cylinder-Graphophone_W0QQitemZ360080128451QQihZ023QQcategoryZ38028QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Can someone explain to me why there are 11 bids on this Columbia Concert
Cylinder? It must be the box, because the cylinder sure as heck
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=330257508082
Oh my goodness, it's a Trumpetone!! one of those ultra-simple little
phonographs that made a brief appearance with all those other unsuccessful
Companies, when the patent rights on Disc machines ran out in the late 19teens.
I
I have just been contacted by a lady in Massachusetts who has what appears to
be a very large and elaborate Period Style Cabinet Victrola. It has Victor
Victrola Style parts, and #2 Reproducer, but inside the elaborate cabinet are
the words Gramophone Co. This is an internal horn style
as it seems to be from the descriptions, the owner could have had a
dealer do a conversion.
[Original Message]
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org
Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com
Date: 9/1/2008 4:50:38 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Gramophone Company Period style victrola
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/clt/843879502.html
My goodness, what a beauty and at such a bargain price!!
That is priceless, someone should send it to the generous seller who is
listing it, so he or she can incorporate it into the description.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Douglas Curran batwings78...@msn.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:43 PM
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/clt/847932047.html
Now that's better. The seller has come to his senses and dropped the price on
this rare beauty imported from India, circa 1930. Now how can you pass it up??
Wow, what a gorgeous phonograph. These Herzog built and patented Sonora
bulge style cabinet phonographs very seldom come up. Someone will get a
really good deal on this one, best of luck and thank for posting this so we
could all see it.
Brce
- Original Message -
From: gregory caringi
in the
Movies Now' and 'Since Mother Goes to Movie Shows'.
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote:
From: BruceY Bruce78rpm at comcast.net
Subject: [Phono-L] McGinty at the Living Pictures
To: phonolist at yahoogroups.com
Cc: Phono-l at oldcrank.org
Date: Thursday, October
, 2008, at 6:22 PM, BruceY wrote:
Two very nice additions to the list. What was the Difference between a
Living Picture Show, as opposed to a Moving Picture show. I have
tried to
find an explanation on line but can't find one. I am just guessing,
but
maybe an early form of late 19th century
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320309111547ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123
This price looks a somewhat high for this machine. Is there something I am not
seeing here. I notice it has a blue Amberol cylinder on it, could it have been
converted to play 4 minute cylinders??
Bruce
Thanks, as I thought. I had never heard of a 4 minute BF Peerless, and I
have one exactly like it. yes indeed, must have some funky bidders out
there, funking up the prices.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Loran Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at
Wow, I never thought of that !! A two minute Blue Amberol Cylinder?? Could
that be what drove the price up?? The Strange thing is that I actually sent
the owner an email asking him if he played the blue amberol on the BF, he
answered that he did and it sounded fine.
Bruce
- Original
Yes, that was the Peerless with the Blue Amberol Cylinder on it. I was
wondering myself about that. Especially since the seller told me that he
played it and it sounded fine. The machine was in super nice condition as I
remember.
Bruce
- Original Message -
From: Steven Medved
Congratulations, that is an excellent buy. My only question would be: How
did you find it? What did you search under?
- Original Message -
From: Chris Kocsis chris...@cox.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: [Phono-L]
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