Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard
West Salem Wisconsin, thanks Randy On Apr 14, 2017 7:42 PM, "Ward Sandstrom via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: Where is the machine located Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Randy Larson via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: I sincerely apologize for my poor eyesight, I was convinced this was an E, but putting my flashlight on it, it was clearly an FYI, I'm so sorry for the controversy. Here are the serial numbers and Model number, the flash of my camera making it clearer. <20170414_102201.jpg> ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/rr5m0dGpk1WVdHTipTwsSQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0s9lP0EIACx3UJXdSYhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAOWb8VjgtJaMUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 <http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/KEdWDSLDsjR67tgWgWZQ4g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0s9lP0EIACx3UJXdSYhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAOWb8VjgtJaMUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQAROpodHRwOi8vcG9zdC5zcG1haWx0ZWNobi5jb20vZi9hL2ZzZDVEaUF3RFFmQ0RMLWI5d29kRXd-fi9BQUJGMndBfi9SZ1JhMHBfalAwRUlBQ3gzVUFqVHg2VlhBM053WTFnRUFBQUFBRmtHYzJoaGNtVmtZUWRvWld4c2IxODFZQTAxTWk0ek55NHhNVGt1TVRrMlFnb0FBR05zOFZpeFN6VS1VaFJzWVhKemIyNTBZV3hyUUdkdFlXbHNMbU52YlFsUkJBQUFBQUJFRW1oMGRIQTZMeTl3YUc5dWJ5MXNMbTl5WjBjQ2UzMH5HAnt9> Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/rr5m0dGpk1WVdHTipTwsSQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0s9lP0EIACx3UJXdSYhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAOWb8VjgtJaMUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQARBJodHRwOi8vcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdHAnt9 Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
Sorry for the mix up, but I took a picture of the serial plate, and what looked to me as an E is an F model. On Apr 13, 2017 11:59 PM, "Randy Larson" <larsont...@gmail.com> wrote: > It has an H with a small reproducer > > On Apr 13, 2017 10:01 PM, "harvey kravitz via Phono-L" < > phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > >> Does it have an N reproducer and a large carriage? >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Randy Larson via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *To:* Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *Cc:* Randy Larson <larsont...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:29 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E >> >> It states on the ID plate it's an E. >> >> On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: >> >> Where is it located? Thanks >> >> In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: >> >> It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was >> strictly a 4 min. machine. >> Harvey Kravitz >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Jamie Kelly via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *To:* 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *Cc:* Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E >> >> I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. >> Jamie >> >> >> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank.org >> <phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org>] *On Behalf Of *Randy Larson via Phono-L >> *Sent:* Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM >> *To:* Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *Cc:* Randy Larson <ra...@cityprayz.com> >> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Edison E >> >> I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with >> no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has >> the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new >> spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. >> This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for >> the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back >> on her feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays >> beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it >> would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks >> Randy Larson >> >> [image: >> http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/Y_J2DqCi_u9zeytRYJcTTA~~/AABF2wA~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] >> <http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/bR1zQYPjm8i3dumxJaYfMA~~/AABF2wA~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
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
It has an H with a small reproducer On Apr 13, 2017 10:01 PM, "harvey kravitz via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > Does it have an N reproducer and a large carriage? > > > ------ > *From:* Randy Larson via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *To:* Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *Cc:* Randy Larson <larsont...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:29 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E > > It states on the ID plate it's an E. > > On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > > Where is it located? Thanks > > In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: > > It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was > strictly a 4 min. machine. > Harvey Kravitz > > > -- > *From:* Jamie Kelly via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *To:* 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *Cc:* Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E > > I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. > Jamie > > > *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank.org > <phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org>] *On Behalf Of *Randy Larson via Phono-L > *Sent:* Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM > *To:* Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *Cc:* Randy Larson <ra...@cityprayz.com> > *Subject:* [Phono-L] Edison E > > I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no > insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the > 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring > installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This > comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the > upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on > her feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays > beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it > would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks > Randy Larson > > [image: > http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/DlLYE8tjGVw0VNojqPdqxw~~/AABF2wA~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] > <http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/f1h1x_NlT27WLHRBO9XlKw~~/AABF2wA~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
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
I can send a pic of the ID plate,if necessary On Apr 13, 2017 9:28 PM, "Randy Larson" <larsont...@gmail.com> wrote: > It states on the ID plate it's an E. > > On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > >> Where is it located? Thanks >> >> In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: >> >> It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was >> strictly a 4 min. machine. >> Harvey Kravitz >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Jamie Kelly via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *To:* 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *Cc:* Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E >> >> I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. >> Jamie >> >> >> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *Randy >> Larson via Phono-L >> *Sent:* Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM >> *To:* Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> *Cc:* Randy Larson <ra...@cityprayz.com> >> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Edison E >> >> I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with >> no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has >> the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new >> spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. >> This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for >> the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back >> on her feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays >> beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it >> would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks >> Randy Larson >> >> [image: >> http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/vSYht4mMo0Hf0PC0I-EoXA~~/AABF2wA~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] >> <http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/pxJg7ddhVELB9b2RBWH-RQ~~/AABF2wA~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
Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
It states on the ID plate it's an E. On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > Where is it located? Thanks > > In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: > > It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was > strictly a 4 min. machine. > Harvey Kravitz > > > -- > *From:* Jamie Kelly via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *To:* 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *Cc:* Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E > > I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. > Jamie > > > *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *Randy > Larson via Phono-L > *Sent:* Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM > *To:* Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > *Cc:* Randy Larson <ra...@cityprayz.com> > *Subject:* [Phono-L] Edison E > > I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no > insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the > 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring > installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This > comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the > upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on > her feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays > beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it > would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks > Randy Larson > > [image: > http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/STOPooAeFf87taPrM1iaDQ~~/AABF2wA~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] > <http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/6Yi8Qq--ftcoAKLZSVkc5g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0WeIP0EIACx3UWEKkMZXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YA01Mi4zNy4xMTkuMTk2QgoAAAg08Fh5qNXKUhhhcmNoaXZlQG1haWwtYXJjaGl2ZS5jb20JUQQAhGYEaHR0cDovL3Bvc3Quc3BtYWlsdGVjaG4uY29tL2YvYS9SZExNYTNvYkd1RU9UdHBhb2tQa1lnfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSYTBWeXhQMEVJQUN4M1VBaUx2Q2RYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFkb1pXeHNiMTgxWUF3MU1pNHpPUzQxTVM0eE9EUkNDZ0FBTVNud1dMRkx4ZmxTRkd4aGNuTnZiblJoYkd0QVoyMWhhV3d1WTI5dENWRUVBQUFBQUlTdUFtaDBkSEE2THk5d2IzTjBMbk53YldGcGJIUmxZMmh1TG1OdmJTOW1MMkV2VGpkWVpWZFlOMk14TWs5cWRXNXdkbEJrUVRKdmQzNS1MMEZCUWtZeWQwRi1MMUpuVW1Fd1ZuTlBVREJGU1VGRGVETlZRV2xNYUhkb1dFRXpUbmRaTVdkRlFVRkJRVUZHYTBkak1taG9ZMjFXYTFsUlpHOWFWM2h6WWpFNE1WbEJNREZOYVRSNlRuazBlRTFVYTNWTlZHc3lVV2R2UVVGSk5HNDRSbWw0VXpsNU5GVm5NV3BPVjFwb1ltdENhR0l5ZDNWWk1qbDBRMVpGUlVGQlFVRkJTVkp4UVZkb01HUklRVFpNZVRsM1lqTk9NRXh1VG5kaVYwWndZa2hTYkZreWFIVk1iVTUyWWxNNWJVd3lSWFpTTUUxNVZqQlpNV1ZzUVRCaGF6VllZMVphUWs5WE1UWmlibXN5V2pNMUxVd3dSa0pSYTFsNVpEQkdMVXd4U201VmJVVjNWbTFqTVZWRVFrWlRWVVpFWlVST1ZsRlhiRTFUV0ZKVFYwVkZlbFJ1WkZwTlYyUkdVVlZHUWxGVlJrZGhNR1JxVFcxb2Ixa3lNVmRoTVd4U1drYzVZVll6YUhwWmFrVTBUVlpzUW1SNlJrNWhWRkkyVkRGTk1FMVZNVlJPU0doUVVrWktSRkV5WkVKUldGWlVWa2hrV0ZSRldrMVpWMjgxVlRCWmVXRkhhR3BpYkhCeldsWmtNR1ZXYkZsWGJrSnJVMGhDUWxwV1pFZGlNa2w1VDBoV1drMXFiREJSTVZwR1VsVkdRbEZWUmtKU1Zrb3lXVlZvVTAxSFRrbFVWRnBOWlZScmVscEVUbXBrVm14WlYyMW9hazB4UmpGWFZFazFaRVYzZWxSdVFtRmxWRVp6V1d4a1IyTkhTa1ZQVkVaclVucEdiVmxzWkZkaE1rWlpWbTVTVVZZeFdqQlhWbVJ6WXpCd2RWWnFRbWxXYW13MldXcE9WMlZXYTNsV1ZHeHBVako0TVZsWWJHRk5WMUpJVFZkYVdrMXJXakJaTUdSSFkwWnZlVTVFYkdwTmJYaDFWRVprVjJSR2JGaGlTRTVMWW14WmQxbHNXVFZoYlVsNVRsUkNZVlo2VlhkVlJtUlhaRVpzV0dKSVRscE5ibWgzVjJ4ak1VMUdTak5UYW1SdFZWZzFMVkozU2pkbVVYNS1Sd0o3ZlF-fkcCe30~> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/6Yi8Qq--ftcoAKLZSVkc5g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRa0WeIP0EIACx3UWEKkMZXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181Y
[Phono-L] Edison Bearing
I want to thank everyone who expressed interest in the Edison bearing. I've received enough request that will keep me busy for several weeks. So I'm sorry I can't make the offer free anymore. One question is why make one in the first place? A collector once said to me years ago; one of the problems with an Edison motor is that there is steel on steel friction with only the oil you can externally place on it. That in itself initiated the wheels spinning. I wondered if I could improve it. This bearing provides a continuous feed of oil to the bearing and reduce the constant need to oil it externally. Maybe it's crazy and won't make a difference. But I'm sending it out to several individuals to test it and see if it is an improvement. Or maybe it's because I'm too lazy to oil the motor as required! In 1963, I received my fathers Brunswick he played as a child. I was thrilled with it and began my enthusiasm for collecting, He would take me all over the city as I scoured for any old unit. In 1964, he paid $60 for my first Edison Standard (of which he only made $75 a week). I was stunned that he would make such a sacrifice for me. What is interesting is that he worked for Alcoa Aluminum. He was an avid inventor and came up with several improvements for the machines he operated. He was even recognized for several awards (unfortunately nothing financially). He passed away in 2011 at the age of 91 He was my best friend, hero and my inspiration. And we both admired Edison! Maybe a long explanation of why, but there it is. Best Regards Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Bearing
Ronald Thanks so much for your input, I really appreciate it. The only reason I used stainless steel is that it would last longer. The oil in the bearing would sustain it.Bronze is such a soft metal but did not know about it's absorbency. That may possibly reduce any wear on the metal. I will try the bronze. Thanks! Also, any suggestions on what oil has worked best for you? I am going to try some teflon based oil, but they are harder to come by where I live. I do have an order for some and hope it will be here in a couple of weeks. Thanks again Randy On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: So why didn't you use something like sintered bronze for the bearing? It absorbs and holds oil. Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:48 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Bearing I want to thank everyone who expressed interest in the Edison bearing. I've received enough request that will keep me busy for several weeks. So I'm sorry I can't make the offer free anymore. One question is why make one in the first place? A collector once said to me years ago; one of the problems with an Edison motor is that there is steel on steel friction with only the oil you can externally place on it. That in itself initiated the wheels spinning. I wondered if I could improve it. This bearing provides a continuous feed of oil to the bearing and reduce the constant need to oil it externally. Maybe it's crazy and won't make a difference. But I'm sending it out to several individuals to test it and see if it is an improvement. Or maybe it's because I'm too lazy to oil the motor as required! In 1963, I received my fathers Brunswick he played as a child. I was thrilled with it and began my enthusiasm for collecting, He would take me all over the city as I scoured for any old unit. In 1964, he paid $60 for my first Edison Standard (of which he only made $75 a week). I was stunned that he would make such a sacrifice for me. What is interesting is that he worked for Alcoa Aluminum. He was an avid inventor and came up with several improvements for the machines he operated. He was even recognized for several awards (unfortunately nothing financially). He passed away in 2011 at the age of 91 He was my best friend, hero and my inspiration. And we both admired Edison! Maybe a long explanation of why, but there it is. Best Regards Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison and anti-semitism
That was awesome Ken! Loved it! On Jan 27, 2013 12:29 PM, Ken and Brenda Brekke kb...@charter.net wrote: Every once in a while, a little bit of historical trivia comes to light. Did you know The Goldberg Brothers - The Inventors of the Automobile Air Conditioner. Here's a little factoid for automotive buffs or just to dazzle your friends. The four Goldberg brothers, Lowell, Norman, Hiram, and Maxwell, invented and developed the first automobile air-conditioner. On July 17, 1946, the temperature in Detroit was 97 degrees. The four brothers walked into old man Henry Ford's office and sweet-talked his secretary into telling him that four gentlemen were there with the most exciting innovation in the auto industry since the electric starter. Henry was curious and invited them into his office. They refused and instead asked that he come out to the parking lot to their car. They persuaded him to get into the car, which was about 130 degrees, turned on the air conditioner, and cooled the car off immediately. The old man got very excited and invited them back to the office, where he offered them $3 million for the patent. The brothers refused, saying they would settle for $2 million, but they wanted the recognition by having a label, 'The Goldberg Air-Conditioner,' on the dashboard of each car in which it was installed. Now old man Ford was more than just a little anti - Semitic, and there was no way he was going to put the Goldberg's name on two million Fords. They haggled back and forth for about two hours and finally agreed on $4 million and that just their first names would be shown. And so to this day, all Ford air conditioners show -- Lo, Norm, Hi, and Max -- on the controls. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison bearings
Not sure if many would like this, but I've been trying to come up with an idea of how to improve the Edison Standard bearings. Specifically being the bearings for the governor. I wanted to develop something that would still look original yet performed better. Last week I finally thought of something (if it hasn't been already) and put one together (after many trial and error attempts). It's a female bearing with a stainless steel sleeve in a hollow brass case. I tried a steel case but couldn't drill through it. The case has an oil feed at the top right or left end (depending which side it's made for). The bearing provides a longer oil feed and better lubrication. After testing it on my Standard motor, it is working great. It has the original look (except for the oil feed hole and the brass)and works better and you don't have to oil the motor as often. If your interested in one, let me know. I'll send a few out for free for testing /feedback. Thanks Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Dalion
I recently gave a Dalion shell to a friend last year. He did an amazing restoration of the cabinet and now is wanting me to complete the restoration and place the innards (sorry, couldn't find a better term) in it. I have it nearly completed including my locating a Dalion reproducer arm at a Goodwill store in LosAngelos CA. The only thing missing is the base of the arm. I was wondering if anyone had such a part. Would appreciate your help. Thanks Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Dalion
The reproducer says Dalion on it, it doesn't look like a generic arm. On Oct 25, 2012 3:17 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Is it a generic arm? Any chance for pictures of the needed part? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:46 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Dalion I recently gave a Dalion shell to a friend last year. He did an amazing restoration of the cabinet and now is wanting me to complete the restoration and place the innards (sorry, couldn't find a better term) in it. I have it nearly completed including my locating a Dalion reproducer arm at a Goodwill store in LosAngelos CA. The only thing missing is the base of the arm. I was wondering if anyone had such a part. Would appreciate your help. Thanks Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Dalion
I'll work on it tomorrow, thanks for your interest. On Oct 25, 2012 6:06 PM, George victr...@triton.net wrote: Can you email me some pictures? Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph 5092 Muskego Dr. Newaygo MI 49337-8556 231-652-5753 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com - Original Message - From: Randy Larson To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dalion The reproducer says Dalion on it, it doesn't look like a generic arm. On Oct 25, 2012 3:17 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Is it a generic arm? Any chance for pictures of the needed part? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:46 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Dalion I recently gave a Dalion shell to a friend last year. He did an amazing restoration of the cabinet and now is wanting me to complete the restoration and place the innards (sorry, couldn't find a better term) in it. I have it nearly completed including my locating a Dalion reproducer arm at a Goodwill store in LosAngelos CA. The only thing missing is the base of the arm. I was wondering if anyone had such a part. Would appreciate your help. Thanks Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L ad
Bill I checked and its not the right dimensions, sorry. Mine looks to be from a X Sorry, hope you find one Randy On Oct 19, 2012 8:14 AM, Mark markely...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello Randy, When I bought my 18 it was also missing the top back, I found one eventually. For many years I used a XIV back of the same vintage and it fit fine although without the fancy veneer and moldings. I returned the back to the 14 before it went to the new owner otherwise I would have been glad to send it to you. Mark . Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Bill Feiner bfei...@charter.net wrote: Hi Randy; The opening in the rear of the cabinet is 18 wide and 11 5/8 high. The correct board has the trim on it that matches the rest of the cabinet, but I would be interested in a plain back board until I can find the correct back. Thanks, Bill -Original Message- From: Randy Larson Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:05 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L ad I have one but not sure what model it's from, it's also mahogany, if you send the dimensions, I'll check it. On Oct 18, 2012 10:41 AM, Bill Feiner bfei...@charter.net wrote: Hi; I wanted to post this on Phono-L, this is the first time that I have ever posted. I hope that this is the correct procedure. Victrola XVIII Rear Motor Access Door Needed- I have acquired a Victrola XVIII that is missing the rear door behind the motor. I also need the needle holder. This part can also come from a Victrola XVII, as they are both the same. The rear door however is unique to the XVIII because of the moulding on the door. The dimensions of the opening is 18” wide and 11 5/8'” high. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Feiner ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L ad
I have one but not sure what model it's from, it's also mahogany, if you send the dimensions, I'll check it. On Oct 18, 2012 10:41 AM, Bill Feiner bfei...@charter.net wrote: Hi; I wanted to post this on Phono-L, this is the first time that I have ever posted. I hope that this is the correct procedure. Victrola XVIII Rear Motor Access Door Needed- I have acquired a Victrola XVIII that is missing the rear door behind the motor. I also need the needle holder. This part can also come from a Victrola XVII, as they are both the same. The rear door however is unique to the XVIII because of the moulding on the door. The dimensions of the opening is 18” wide and 11 5/8'” high. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Feiner ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Union call for patients
I purchased 6 oxford cylinders on ebay, all were split down the middle, I thought it was just at the ends, are these repairable? On May 28, 2012 1:44 AM, Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com wrote: Dear fellow hobbyists and colleagues, This is your yearly reminder not to forget to bring your wax recordings you desire to receive surgical intervention. Pits, cracks, multiple broken pieces and other conditions restored during Union at our normal location. As before, happy to rebuild, restore and re-wax a great number of different reproducers at our table for you as well. Just bring all the parts with you as I won't have all the various parts in stock with me. Many will be available from other dealers at the show. See you next weekend for another outstanding Union! Dr. Michael Khanchalian Cylinder Doctor ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rude
Steve Great email! I'm a pastor and for a minute, thought I was reading my devotional app. Speak when your angry and you'll make the best speech you'll ever regret. I've been a collector since 1963, and one thing I've so appreciated are the quality and character of the majority of phono collectors. Thanks again Randy Larson On May 25, 2012 9:03 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: There is never any excuse to be rude, period. Some people seem to think they are the self appointed politeness police which is fine if they do it in a polite way that is not offensive. Advice is a gift, and you can do whatever you like with a gift. You do not club someone over the head to get them to accept your gift, offer advice to a wise man and he will appreciate it. If you want to type out a mean e-mail do it and wait the next day before sending it out. Peter was most correct, anything you send as e-mail will be there forever so make certain the record you leave is one that reflects what you want to about yourself. You can tell how an eBay seller is by the negative feedback he left, those that are descriptive and those that castigate attest to the character of the seller. I suggest when mailing to people OFF list that you add OFF LIST to the subject and remember smart phones may not allow you to mail off list, mine sent a private message to the list even though I removed the Phono-L and put the person's e-mail in. When someone fires you up remember we all have our days, the time when I criticize others the most I find myself doing the same thing. Steve Medved I have had my share of being a moron. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
Not sure my original email was received, but wanted to update all regarding the Lithuanian fraudulent seller. Paypal returned my money, and the Lithuanian con man came up empty with the radar from paypal and ebay on the lookout for him. One of the helpful contributing factors was the help I received from this phono email connection. I mentioned to paypal that I was in contact with other collectors on this email site that they were aware of a Lithuanian conman with the same MO on eaby. Because I had alerted them on the day I purchased the item, they withheld the funds until verified. He has no money and we have his number! Thanks again to everyone, this connection has been of great service and a support for an emotional roller coaster ride. Randy Larson On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM, The Farmers g...@usfamily.net wrote: USPS money orders are the ONLY type of money order I accept, and I take them immediately to the post office where they will verify them and cash them. Once I have the cash, I'll ship the item. Does anyone know if all Wells Fargo banks can immediately verify if a Wells Fargo money order is good and then cash it for you free of charge? Greg Farmer - Original Message - From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller If you request a USPS money order you can go to the post office and actually check that the MO is valid and not a phony. Othe MOs may or may not be capable of being verified. On 05/01/2012 08:50 AM, john robles wrote: Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money order. There is a huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people who claim to be interested in your item and who want to pay by cashier's check or money order. These money orders and cashier's checks are stolen from banks and are altered. Craigslist has a warning about this and about accepting those types of payment. When yuo get them and you send the item off, you find out that the money order or cashier's check is no good and you are stuck. So the seller was probably afraid that this was one of those scams. They are so widespread on Craigslist that I get several offers when I am selling something there. They always begin with a note from the would-be buyer asking if the item is still available. They never state what the item is - like they don;t say Is the phonograph still available? When you answer and say yes, you get another email, usually from a different person, stating Thakn you for your swift reply. I am busy and so cannot come to pick up the ite,m, but will pay you (soe additional sum of money) for your trouble. I will send payment by certified bank check (or money order) and upon receipt I will arrange for my shipper to pick up th item. That is usually how it goes. When anyone asks me it the item is still available, I say yes, but not if you want to pay by certified check or money order. Then I usually don't hear back, or more often I hear Thank you for your response. I will send payment blah blah blah. It's like they never read my response. So this lady was probably afraid it was a counterfeit money order scam. Paypal or cash on pickup is the best way to go to complete the deal. Speaking of scams, though how do you know if you send cash that you will ever get your item? John Robles From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visions@live.**com vinyl.visi...@live.com Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller To:phono-l@oldcrank.org Another scam related incident - I just won a music box that was a replica of a Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it really wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction because he/she said that he/she was not comfortable accepting a Wells Fargo money order for payment... like he/she was taking a risk - on $15.00? I was the one taking the risk attempting to send a cash equivalent payment without first receiving the item... I don't get it, except that was a way to get out of the sale. Fortunately, in all of the transactions I have made in the US and Europe, I only got scammed once, even though I have sent cash for payments... just lucky, I guess, except most collectors are honest. __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Fraudulent Sale on Ebay
Good news regarding the fraudulent sale on eBay. Because I notified paypal the day of the purchase (I came to my senses and checked the guy out) and because I shared what I discovered from others on this email link with other collectors around the country their knowledge of a Lithuanian crook using the same pic's of a Victor unit, they placed a block on his reimbursement. They also will be on the alert of this person and notified eBay of the scam artist. Thanks again for this connection to other collectors the help you all provided. I now have my money back and hopefully will spare any further pain for future buyers. Thanks Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
Have you ever heard those stories of a guy responding to a Chevrolet for sale in a barn somewhere for $100. Turned out to be a 67 corvette, I think there was even a song about it. I always wondered if that would happen on ebay. A week ago Sunday, A Victor I was posted on ebay for $330.00 but it now. As my heart began to pound, I couldn't believe I was the first, and those who snooze loose motto popped in my head. I checked out the photo's and the unit was in mint condition. I immediately purchased it which began a roller coaster of emotions. The other motto of if its too good to be true, it usually it also reared it truth of reality. I checked his ebay and history and there was none. A tracking number was given and DPD (out of Germany) had no record of this number. The person was also from Lithuania! The phone number given was also bogus. I sent four emails asking for verification and to no avail, no response! The good news was that I alerted paypal. They said that they agreed that this most likely was a fraudulent sale, and I would be guaranteed that I would receive a full refund. We have to wait, there's a 1% chance he might still send it, but paypal has to wait 30 days (time limit for the seller to send the package). I made a huge mistake and let my emotions get the best of common sense. I hope my mistake will be of help to my phono friends. Best Regards Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison Bedplates
When discussing pinstriping a bedplate, somebody mentioned how to strip a bedplates paint. I noticed from previous experience that paint stripper was innefictive. The solution previously mentioned was soaking it in some kind of stripping liquid. Anyone know what that might be? Thanks Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] stripping Edison bed-plates question
I'm also asking for help on stripe-ing, not stripping, I've tried pin strips from cars (too wide), tried hand painting with masking tape (paint bleeds under masking tape, looks bad) and free hand (worse yet, too many cups of coffee). Ron Sitco mentioned a roller device, checked that out, it starts at $100.00 (too much for the budget at the moment.. but will check it out if anyone else has tried it and it worked. Thanks. Randy Larson On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: No, it is relatively thin and you bake it to set it. May take several dips to get it all thick enough to fill the craters in the casting not filled by the initial filling with plaster. Was sanded between coats if required. Final coat of asphaltum is then coated with shellac and then stripes applied followed by final coat. Seed lac was the specific type of shellac used. On 04/20/2012 09:04 AM, Steven Medved wrote: Asphaltum is thick and self leveling and takes a long time to dry? From: appywan...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:12:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] stripping Edison bed-plates question You can strip a bedplate by soaking in a solution of Red Devil lye. Be advised that the black bedplates are coated with asphaltum -- not paint. Colored bedplates are coated with tinted shellac -- not paint. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:25:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] stripping Edison bed-plates question In my opinion do not strip unless you have to, use the old paint as a primer. You will be amazed at the casting defects in the bedplates. Steve From: a...@popyrus.com Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:07:57 -0600 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] stripping Edison bed-plates question I'd like a refresher on that too. Just got in a lowly model B Standard, that's a good machine with a nice cabinet, nickel parts and combination attachment, but some blankety-blank polished all the stripes and umbrella signature off of it. Andy On Apr 19, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Bob Maffit wrote: Phono list: Previously I read a discussion on stripping the Edison bed-plates. the posting described what chemical and how to use it as well as the safety considerations. I can't find my saved copy, could someone resend or provide the information again? later Bob __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
