Not sure my original email was received, but wanted to update all regarding the Lithuanian fraudulent seller. Paypal returned my money, and the Lithuanian con man came up empty with the radar from paypal and ebay on the lookout for him. One of the helpful contributing factors was the help I received from this phono email connection. I mentioned to paypal that I was in contact with other collectors on this email site & that they were aware of a Lithuanian conman with the same "MO" on eaby. Because I had alerted them on the day I purchased the item, they withheld the funds until verified. He has no money and we have his number! Thanks again to everyone, this connection has been of great service and a support for an emotional roller coaster ride. Randy Larson
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM, The Farmers <[email protected]> wrote: > USPS money orders are the ONLY type of money order I accept, and I take > them immediately to the post office where they will verify them and cash > them. Once I have the cash, I'll ship the item. > > Does anyone know if all Wells Fargo banks can immediately verify if a > Wells Fargo money order is good and then cash it for you free of charge? > > Greg Farmer > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <[email protected]> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller > > > > If you request a USPS money order you can go to the post office and >> actually check that the MO is valid and not a phony. Othe MOs may or may >> not be capable of being verified. >> >> On 05/01/2012 08:50 AM, john robles wrote: >> >>> Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money >>> order. There is a huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people >>> who claim to be interested in your item and who want to pay by cashier's >>> check or money order. These money orders and cashier's checks are stolen >>> from banks and are altered. Craigslist has a warning about this and about >>> accepting those types of payment. When yuo get them and you send the item >>> off, you find out that the money order or cashier's check is no good and >>> you are stuck. So the seller was probably afraid that this was one of those >>> scams. They are so widespread on Craigslist that I get several offers when >>> I am selling something there. They always begin with a note from the >>> would-be buyer asking if the item is still available. They never state what >>> the item is - like they don;t say "Is the phonograph still available?" When >>> you answer and say yes, you get another email, usually from a different >>> person, stating >>> "Thakn you for your swift reply. I am busy and so cannot come to pick >>> up the ite,m, but will pay you (soe additional sum of money) for your >>> trouble. I will send payment by certified bank check (or money order) and >>> upon receipt I will arrange for my shipper to pick up th item". That is >>> usually how it goes. >>> When anyone asks me it the item is still available, I say yes, but not >>> if you want to pay by certified check or money order. Then I usually don't >>> hear back, or more often I hear "Thank you for your response. I will send >>> payment blah blah blah. It's like they never read my response. >>> So this lady was probably afraid it was a counterfeit money order scam. >>> Paypal or cash on pickup is the best way to go to complete the deal. >>> Speaking of scams, though how do you know if you send cash that you will >>> ever get your item? >>> John Robles >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Vinyl Visions"<vinyl.visions@live.**com <[email protected]>> >>> Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm >>> Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller >>> To:<[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Another >>> scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of a >>> Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it >>> really wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction >>> because he/she said that he/she was "not comfortable" accepting a Wells >>> Fargo money order for payment... like he/she was taking a risk - on >>> $15.00? I was the one taking the risk attempting to send a cash >>> equivalent payment without first receiving the item... I don't get it, >>> except that was a way to get out of the sale. Fortunately, in all of the >>> transactions I have made in the US and Europe, I only got scammed once, >>> even though I have sent cash for payments... just lucky, I guess, >>> except most collectors are honest. >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
