Re: [PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Marques
El Mié 24 Sep 2003 18:15, Ignatius Reilly escribió:
> Yeah, banking is too serious a business in Argentina, as everybody knows,
> to entrust to MySQL.

Uhmmm. Are you a bond holder? You should have stated it as an irony, if that 
was the case.
Else, it's very unclear what you are trying to express.

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Re: [PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread Ignatius Reilly
Yeah, banking is too serious a business in Argentina, as everybody knows, to
entrust to MySQL.

Ignatius
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El Mié 24 Sep 2003 07:24, nabil escribió:
> Dear all;
>
> I have been using Mysql for a long time, but I have a benchmark Q.
>
> Is pgsql , better ? faster ? more reliable than mysql ?

Maybe not faster in FTS, but surely MORE reliable!!!

> any comment ?
> Some people say that php is not for a very big enterprise, banking ,
> application !! they said that java or even .NET is better ... I m against
> that but what do you all think ?

I'm not that sure. But one thing I am sure of is that I woud never put a
bank
account aplication using MySQL!

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Re: [PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Marques
El Mié 24 Sep 2003 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> > El Mié 24 Sep 2003 07:24, nabil escribió:
> > > Dear all;
> > >
> > > I have been using Mysql for a long time, but I have a benchmark Q.
> > >
> > > Is pgsql , better ? faster ? more reliable than mysql ?
> >
> > Maybe not faster in FTS, but surely MORE reliable!!!
> >
> > > any comment ?
> > > Some people say that php is not for a very big enterprise, banking ,
> > > application !! they said that java or even .NET is better
> >
> > ... I m against
> >
> > > that but what do you all think ?
> >
> > I'm not that sure. But one thing I am sure of is that I woud
> > never put a bank
> > account aplication using MySQL!
>
> And why is that? MySQL is as secure as the application that accesses it. We
> use it extensively for sensitive data, and it crunches numbers just fine.
> It ranks up with Oracle in speed, lacking some features, which will be
> available soon, such as stored procedures and triggers, and sub-selects
> which are very soon to be available.

It's not only about securety. It's about the "C" in "ACID": Consistency!

Example:

mysql> create table test (i1 int, i2 numeric(6,2) not null);
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.01 sec)

mysql> insert into test values (12345678901234,123456.23);
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)

mysql> select * from test;
++--+
| i1 | i2   |
++--+
| 2147483647 | 9.99 |
++--+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

I think I would call this inconsistency!

You can't just put any data in the database if it doesn't comply to the 
structure of the table. But that's how MySQL works. If you try to insert a 
negative number in a int unsigned field it won't give you an error. Instead 
you get 0 (zero). This is totally unacceptable, at least from my point of 
view.

> Think .NET, think swiss cheese! Think Java, think long load times, think
> PHP,  think quick SSI and security as long as you pass it through ssl

I think just like you in this case.

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RE: [PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread Gary . Every

> 
> 
> El Mié 24 Sep 2003 07:24, nabil escribió:
> > Dear all;
> >
> > I have been using Mysql for a long time, but I have a benchmark Q.
> >
> > Is pgsql , better ? faster ? more reliable than mysql ?
> 
> Maybe not faster in FTS, but surely MORE reliable!!!
> 
> > any comment ?
> > Some people say that php is not for a very big enterprise, banking ,
> > application !! they said that java or even .NET is better 
> ... I m against
> > that but what do you all think ?
> 
> I'm not that sure. But one thing I am sure of is that I woud 
> never put a bank 
> account aplication using MySQL!

And why is that? MySQL is as secure as the application that accesses it. We
use it extensively for sensitive data, and it crunches numbers just fine. It
ranks up with Oracle in speed, lacking some features, which will be
available soon, such as stored procedures and triggers, and sub-selects
which are very soon to be available. 

Think .NET, think swiss cheese! Think Java, think long load times, think
PHP,  think quick SSI and security as long as you pass it through ssl



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Re: [PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Marques
El Mié 24 Sep 2003 07:24, nabil escribió:
> Dear all;
>
> I have been using Mysql for a long time, but I have a benchmark Q.
>
> Is pgsql , better ? faster ? more reliable than mysql ?

Maybe not faster in FTS, but surely MORE reliable!!!

> any comment ?
> Some people say that php is not for a very big enterprise, banking ,
> application !! they said that java or even .NET is better ... I m against
> that but what do you all think ?

I'm not that sure. But one thing I am sure of is that I woud never put a bank 
account aplication using MySQL!

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Re: [PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread Lester Caine
I have been using Mysql for a long time, but I have a benchmark Q.

Is pgsql , better ? faster ? more reliable than mysql ?

any comment ?
I've only ever used Interbase and now Firebird. Latest
release is due any day and is FAST.
Some people say that php is not for a very big enterprise, banking ,
application !! they said that java or even .NET is better ... I m against
that but what do you all think ?
Firebird + PHP work quite happily and will cope with
Gigabytes of data. I hate those banking sites that you can
not access because 'you don't have Microsoft VM' (
Aliance&Leicester Commercial ! ) while other sites work fine
without needing any downloads ( Aliance&Leicester Personal )
Why waste time re-inventing the wheel - use what you are
used to :)
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[PHP-DB] mySQL vs pgSQL | php vs others

2003-09-24 Thread nabil
Dear all;

I have been using Mysql for a long time, but I have a benchmark Q.

Is pgsql , better ? faster ? more reliable than mysql ?

any comment ?
Some people say that php is not for a very big enterprise, banking ,
application !! they said that java or even .NET is better ... I m against
that but what do you all think ?

nabil

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