Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Boian Bonev
why not => then. imo the parser will easily distinguish array definition from an expression b. - Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stig Sæther Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Chuck Hagenbuch
Quoting Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > :: is taken, but why not do it the C++ way? It also uses :: for both > classes and namespaces. +1 on that. -chuck -- "Because of your melodic nature, the moonlight never misses an appointment." - fortune cookie -- PHP Development Mailing List

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Dean Hall
- Original Message - From: "George Schlossnagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dean Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 09.44pm Subject: Re: [Zend Engin

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ./configure problem (4.0.8-dev)

2001-09-30 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do a cvsup of ext/msession, Jon Parise rewrote my config.m4, and it seems > pretty good. I should not legally be permitted to edit config.m4 scripts. > Of course, you will have to run buildconf again to get it into the > configure script. > > Also, if you are using F

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread George Schlossnagle
The point is that while those are both valid $test?FOO:BAR:BARBARA is ambiguous in that it could refer to either of those. On Sunday, September 30, 2001, at 10:25 PM, Dean Hall wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dean Hall" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Dean Hall
- Original Message - From: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dean Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 08.02pm Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity >

[PHP-DEV] Minor addition to http://php.net/anoncvs.php?

2001-09-30 Thread Zak Greant
Does anyone object to me modifying the anoncvs.php webpage to include the following note? Does anyone have anything to add - Jeroen? :) -- Certain combinations of autoconf, automake and libtool may cause the buildconf script to fail. Under SuSE 7.1 (Linux kernal 2.2.18 i686) autoconf ve

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ./configure problem (4.0.8-dev)

2001-09-30 Thread mlwmohawk
Do a cvsup of ext/msession, Jon Parise rewrote my config.m4, and it seems pretty good. I should not legally be permitted to edit config.m4 scripts. Of course, you will have to run buildconf again to get it into the configure script. Also, if you are using FreeBSD you will need to grab Phoenix-

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug in autoconf report

2001-09-30 Thread Zak Greant
On September 30, 2001 07:03 pm, you wrote: > I installed brand new autoconf, automake and libtool into my $HOME. > That solved the problem. > > However, I still don't know what the problem was, probably there were > some library files not well installed. Anyway, I'm not the > administrator of that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> Anyway, if I'm not seeing the real ambiguity here, let me know. The ternary in question is expr ? val1 : val2 If val1 or val2 contains a : you have an ambiguity -Rasmus -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug in autoconf report

2001-09-30 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> Hi Jeroen, > > Did you ever get the problem sorted out? Has anyone encountered the > same difficulty? I installed brand new autoconf, automake and libtool into my $HOME. That solved the problem. However, I still don't know what the problem was, probably there were some library files not well i

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Dean Hall
- Original Message - From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12.31pm Subject: [Zend Engine 2] namespaces ambiguity > Would this mean that the person meant $test?(FOO):(BAR:BARBARA) or > $test?(FOO:BAR):BARBARA

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug in autoconf report

2001-09-30 Thread Zak Greant
Hi Jeroen, Did you ever get the problem sorted out? Has anyone encountered the same difficulty? I just encountered the same issue in almost the same circumstances. In my case, automake and libtool both live in /usr/bin. % cd php4 % ./buildconf buildconf: checking installation... buildconf: a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Zak Greant
On September 30, 2001 06:15 pm, Wez Furlong wrote: > What about "." then (Java/Delphi)? > > --Wez. Wouldn't that conflict with the concatenation operator? Unless I am mistaken, it looks like only the following single symbols are available: % * | \ (outside of quotes at least) -- Zak Greant P

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Wez Furlong
What about "." then (Java/Delphi)? --Wez. On 09/30/01, "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well the difference is that C++ can figure out what to do at compile-time. > I don't think we can which means that it would put more logic into run-time > which is a bad thing IMO (especially for

[PHP-DEV] FreeBSD 4.3 + Apache 2 (CVS) + PHP4 (CVS)

2001-09-30 Thread Karl Austin
Hi, I'm just trying the latest snapshots of PHP4 + Apache 2, it all compiles fine, Apache 2 serves pages fine. The problem is that it won't load the PHP4 module, with this error: Cannot load /usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp4.so into server: /usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp4.so: Undefined s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Apache 2.0.18 API does not match sapi_apache2.c code

2001-09-30 Thread Stig Venaas
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:03:02PM +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Stig Venaas wrote: > > Or is it possible for mortals to download more recent Apache somehow > > (CVS access?)? > > Sure, the latest is Apache 2.0.26-dev. Thanks, maybe it was a stupid question, haven't followed Apache devel

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request

2001-09-30 Thread CVS Account Request
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[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request

2001-09-30 Thread CVS Account Request
Full name: Ferdinand Svehla Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ID:FSvehla Purpose: German documentation. phpdoc -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrato

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Andi Gutmans
Well the difference is that C++ can figure out what to do at compile-time. I don't think we can which means that it would put more logic into run-time which is a bad thing IMO (especially for something new like this). Or can you think of a way to differ between these at compile-time? Andi At 09

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: > :: is taken, but why not do it the C++ way? It also uses :: for both > classes and namespaces. I was about to propose that. +1 - Sascha Experience IRCG http://schumann.cx/http://schuman

Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 09:35 PM 9/30/2001 +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: >[Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Hey, > > > > I just started playing around with the parser to support the > > namespaces syntax Stig laid out in his RFC. I think I've thought of an > > ambiguity (with constants) which makes me wonder h

[PHP-DEV] Re: [Zend Engine 2] Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Zeev Suraski
:: is taken, but why not do it the C++ way? It also uses :: for both classes and namespaces. Zeev At 21:35 30-09-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: >[Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Hey, > > > > I just started playing around with the parser to support the > > namespaces syntax Stig laid out i

Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Parise
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:35:15PM +0200, Stig Sther Bakken wrote: > > I just started playing around with the parser to support the > > namespaces syntax Stig laid out in his RFC. I think I've thought of an > > ambiguity (with constants) which makes me wonder how feasible the > > proposed syntax

Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Hey, > > I just started playing around with the parser to support the > namespaces syntax Stig laid out in his RFC. I think I've thought of an > ambiguity (with constants) which makes me wonder how feasible the > proposed syntax is. > Consider the following ex

RE: [PHP-DEV] Benedicte Bakken born

2001-09-30 Thread Chris Newbill
Until they audit you and make you pay all the money back because you did not look for work. :( -Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE

RE: [PHP-DEV] Benedicte Bakken born

2001-09-30 Thread mlwmohawk
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RE: [PHP-DEV] Benedicte Bakken born

2001-09-30 Thread Chris Newbill
>>["Thies C. Arntzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 06:00:24AM +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken >> wrote: >> > Hi guys, >> > >> > I'm proud to announce that our second daughter, Benedicte, was born >> > tonight 2001-09-29 at 0300 MEST. Technical data: 3380 grams, 50 >> > centimeters, 4

Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Markus Fischer
All I can say about this ... I don't want to language being intelligent and try to assume any behaviour. In C (gosch, again. No, I don't want to turn PHP into C) under certain cicumstances you get ambiguousity warnings. But this wouldn't be a useful idea for PHP because in C its only during compil

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[PHP-DEV] namespaces ambiguity

2001-09-30 Thread Andi Gutmans
Hey, I just started playing around with the parser to support the namespaces syntax Stig laid out in his RFC. I think I've thought of an ambiguity (with constants) which makes me wonder how feasible the proposed syntax is. Consider the following expression: $test?FOO:BAR:BARBARA Would this mea

[PHP-DEV] number.c

2001-09-30 Thread Andi Gutmans
From ./configure: creating number.c creating number.h Any reason we are still creating these two dummy files now that we are bundling the BC math library? Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [E

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ./configure problem (4.0.8-dev)

2001-09-30 Thread mlwmohawk
Oops, this is not my bug, I thought this was a continuation of something else. (I should read the message before responding.) > This is my bug and I am working on it now. I need to add a test in > config.m4 to test whether or not phoenix is installed and built. the > msession extension will n

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ./configure problem (4.0.8-dev)

2001-09-30 Thread mlwmohawk
This is my bug and I am working on it now. I need to add a test in config.m4 to test whether or not phoenix is installed and built. the msession extension will not build if phoenix is not installed in /usr/local/phoenix. > Nobody has problem with configure script generated by buildconf? > >

[PHP-DEV] Re: ./configure problem (4.0.8-dev)

2001-09-30 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Nobody has problem with configure script generated by buildconf? [yohgaki@dev php4]$ ./buildconf buildconf: checking installation... buildconf: autoconf version 2.13 (ok) buildconf: automake version 1.4-p5 (ok) buildconf: libtool version 1.4 (ok) *snip* Do I need upgrades? Thanks -- Yasuo Ohgaki

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] RC3

2001-09-30 Thread Karl Austin
No objections here, I'm ready and waiting with a new dev box to test it on: FreeBSD 4.3 with Apache 2.0.16 and the usual RH7.1 box ready to tackle it. Thanks, Karl > Any objections to releasing RC3? > > > -- > PHP Quality Assurance Mailing List > To unsubscribe, e-ma

[PHP-DEV] Re: Apache 2.0.18 API does not match sapi_apache2.c code

2001-09-30 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Stig Venaas wrote: > Or is it possible for mortals to download more recent Apache somehow > (CVS access?)? Sure, the latest is Apache 2.0.26-dev. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishl

Re: [PHP-DEV] ./configure problem (4.0.8-dev)

2001-09-30 Thread mlwmohawk
If you enable msession, you have to have the phoenix library installed. Right now it is expected to be in /usr/local/phoneix. If you have it somewhere else, just make a symlink. > I would like to try msession so, I deleted and created new > configure script with ./buildconf. configure script c

[PHP-DEV] Apache 2.0.18 API does not match sapi_apache2.c code

2001-09-30 Thread Stig Venaas
In Apache 2.0.18 alpha released on June 13, I find apache2/include/util_filter.h with ap_save_brigade() defined with only 3 parameters while we increased it from 3 to 4 on June 23. ap_get_brigade() was changed from 3 to 4 parameters in Apache earlier on, so I guess our change might be for Apache 2

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #13478 Updated: array_merge changes keys

2001-09-30 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 02:34:35PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Markus Fischer wrote: > > > What a nasty 'feature'. Can't we get rid of it ASAP? > > Not really, it's how the Zend hash tables work. Every numeric key gets > converted to a number, even if it's used as a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #13478 Updated: array_merge changes keys

2001-09-30 Thread derick
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Markus Fischer wrote: > What a nasty 'feature'. Can't we get rid of it ASAP? Not really, it's how the Zend hash tables work. Every numeric key gets converted to a number, even if it's used as a string value. Derick > > It would allow comfty hash non-alpha key/value > inser

Re: [PHP-DEV] why does exit() print its argument?

2001-09-30 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > How about if we overload it a bit. I think anybody who does exit(1) is > expecting 1 to be set as the return status whereas someone who does > exit('something bad happened') is expecting the string to be shown a-la > die(). So let's just check the ar

Re: [PHP-DEV] why does exit() print its argument?

2001-09-30 Thread derick
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Jim Winstead wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 11:14:04PM +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > At 22:17 28-09-01, Jason Greene wrote: > > >Why does exit still set the exit status then? > > > > Ok, apparently it does (didn't recall that it does). I'm not sure what the > > logic behi

Re: [PHP-DEV] exit() and discussion

2001-09-30 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 07:24 30-09-01, Markus Fischer wrote: >Zeev, > >You are right that there is no immidiate reason for changing >exit() right now to behave as expected. > >However, I think most have to admit that its a bad story[tm] that >exit() evolved to it what it is right now. As you see many people >expect e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Benedicte Bakken born

2001-09-30 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
["Thies C. Arntzen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 06:00:24AM +0200, Stig Sæther Bakken > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I'm proud to announce that our second daughter, Benedicte, was born > > tonight 2001-09-29 at 0300 MEST. Technical data: 3380 grams, 50 > > centimeters, 4 days ah

Re: [PHP-DEV] why does exit() print its argument?

2001-09-30 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > The WTF factor is generally higher with magical stuff like that. It's > not too far fetched to realize a situation where a 'WTF?' will be > flown into the air, just because the error message happened to be "1", > or "20"... > > shell_exit() is not a very good