ctx->r->handler[strlen("application/x-httpd-php")]
Is this actually the way it's supposed to work? (based on the length)?
Unless there's something I'm missing I'd prefer to see an strcmp() here. It
might be a bit slower but it's definitely more robust
I don't think this is a good idea because some code which runs before the
script runs depends on this.
It doesn't make sense to make such a hack just for the tests, just to get
some session code to run differently.
Andi
At 09:01 AM 10/3/2002 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote:
>
It doesn't really make sense to me to add an alias to MySQL if it's not needed.
The less aliases we have in PHP the better IMO.
Andi
At 11:04 AM 10/3/2002 +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
>Ok. I'll add alias to mysql and rename pgsql function.
>
>--
>Yasuo Ohgaki
>
>
You already have "public" which you can use instead of "var".
I think method would look very nice but I don't think it's worth creating
another reserved word.
Andi
At 01:34 PM 9/28/2002 -0600, Lamont R. Peterson wrote:
>All:
>
>I can't hardly wait f
Please use sizeof("sid") and not 4 in such code.
Also, why use hash_find() if just calling hash_del() would work?
Andi
At 12:05 AM 9/27/2002 +0200, Markus Fischer wrote:
> Guys,
>
> _Please_ include bug fixes in NEWS entries (or separately
> commit them)
ugly" (i.e. not as nice as before) in
>NS 4.x, a broswer that almost no one uses anymore.
>
> > Indeed, why did you have to change it? Just to get CSS in there?
>
>
>As I said, it was to reduce the size of the file considerably.
Just out of curiosity, what was the size be
ts this?
>(and do we want it switched on?)
No idea. It's never happened to me. Not that I think it can have anything
to do with it but is your umask OK?
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If the zend_hash_add() fails then you can do a zend_hash_find() to retreive
the class which is in the hash and print its information. If its
information is NULL (we have to make sure we init it) then you can print
out a message that it's an internal class. Does that make sense?
Andi
At
Can't you make sure that the filename of internal classes will be NULL and
then we can check for it and say it's an internal class?
Andi
At 03:59 PM 9/23/2002 +0100, Wez Furlong wrote:
>X-Managedo-partname: name="1.1"; mimetype="text/plain"
>Content-T
1 => 'bar',
>> )
>> The comma after 'bar' is superfluous.
>
>I agree, but it has been discussed recently.
>Derick added extra , since it should not harm
>any.
>
>(there are shell script languages accept
>extra , like this also)
C also
This sounds very strange. It sounds to me as if your scanner wasn't built
correctly for some odd reason.
Andi
At 10:45 AM 9/6/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
>Hi
>
>I tried the latest windows binaries of PHP with ZE2 built yesterday by Edin
>on http://snaps.php.net/win32/ZE2 and
ally you (as the end-user) shouldn't load a
GPL library with PHP (as that can be looked upon as linking). Only LGPL
works in such a case.
However, often one can get permission from the author of the GPL library.
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You might want to put this into Pear. In any case, if you want to post the
API just to get people's input (naming conventions of functions and so on)
feel free to post here.
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At 06:28 PM 9/7/2002 +0100, Tony Leake wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have started to write an audio api for
At 05:11 PM 9/1/2002 -0700, Michael Sisolak wrote:
>Andi,
>
>I download the alpha2 version of the php-4.3.0-dev-zend2 release.
>Unfortunatley out-of-the-box I got an "Invalid access to memory
>location." error returned when I try to view I page. I was able to
>track i
I think this is fine.
Andi
At 11:32 AM 8/27/2002 -0400, George Schlossnagle wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'd like to use the zend_stack stuff for stacked handlers in the new
>apache_hooks sapi stuff, but right now, it emalloc's everything, which is
>unacceptable for my usage. I
Any chance you can setup and Engine 2 build and see if this problem persists?
Andi
At 06:42 AM 8/27/2002 -0700, Michael Sisolak wrote:
>--- Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 09:53 27/08/2002, Michael Sisolak wrote:
> > > > >i've been doing
Hey,
I think you're right. Someone changed this code a while ago and might have
introduced this problem (or it was like this before).
I commited a fix and hope it doesn't break anything :)
If anyone uses llist's please make sure it's OK.
Andi
At 07:30 AM 8/27/2002 -04
lementation
>of C++ friends, I'm not to sure about the java alternative (is it package
>access?). Anyway is this consept likely to appear in PHP at any time?
I wouldn't want to get into what I consider "the ugly sides of C++'s OOP".
If you need friend then just go ahead a
erparams a void * because then you
can pass whatever you want (a structure with all the params and so on). Of
course you can do it with your current prototype too but this is how it's
usually done.
I haven't looked into the API itself so if it doesn't make much sense
ignore me :)
me momentum.
> > Backporting is definitely a momentum breaker *especially* as everyone
> > really really wants to backport it badly. That's exactly my point. If you
> > guys want it so badly then work for it! :)
>
>Andi, everybody reading this list can rather simply patch
that it's my code and that PHP will do much better. I think that PHP is
going to loose out big time if things don't start gaining some momentum.
Backporting is definitely a momentum breaker *especially* as everyone
really really wants to backport it badly. That's exactly my point. If you
guys want it so badly then work for it! :)
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ures people have been asking for.
>
> i (of course) agree with derick and rasmus. i'm all for
> applying the patch as is. if zeev and andi don't want to
> comment on it for their own reasons i cannot help them. if
> the patch has a problem it'll be foun
I also think we should make sure enough people have motivation to move to
ZE2. If not it'll be hard to push it out and we all know that it's a very
important step for PHP. As it is, there is still not enough momentum behind it.
Andi
At 05:38 PM 8/18/2002 +0300, Zeev Suraski wrot
message:
>"Fatal error: Class myfoo: Cannot inherit from undefined class foo in
>c:\webroot\ze2\myfoo.php on line 2"
>
>andi ? is it not supposed to work either with extended classes ?
Can you please send me a very short script which reproduces your problem?
Thanks,
Andi
thread's address space is a good idea. It's slow and prone to errors.
Andi
> -brad
>--- Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I still think that if you're going to implement such a thread extension it
> > shouldn't try and copy it's pare
that the thread is pretty much a completely new
request. It would also mean much leaner threads as you could create .php
files with only the logic the thread requires.
Andi
At 02:30 PM 8/3/2002 -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote:
>I've cleaned things up a bit, removed code from tsrm and added it
At 12:40 PM 8/3/2002 -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote:
>Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>By the way, if we do end up making this kind of thing mainstream we
>>should probably use APR (or another library) for thread abstraction. I
>>wouldn't want to do all of that work over.
>>And
Thanks. I've fixed this.
Andi
At 05:51 PM 7/18/2002 +0200, Sander Steffann wrote:
>I think zend2_example.phps has a little error in example 6:
>
>The display function is defined as:
> function display()
> {
> print $this->name;
> print &q
release
>4.3.0 with the wrong function names. It just doesn't look professional :)
I agree :)
It should probably be something like ftp_nb_get().
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clone_obj is the C handler for overloaded objects. In case of PHP objects
clone_obj calls __clone.
Andi
At 12:37 AM 7/18/2002 -0400, l0t3k wrote:
>A quick question about the above...
>what is the relationship between the clone_obj handler and the __clone
>method. For instance, if i d
I think this is a good question.
I'm not quite sure that casting dval to long is the same as multiplying the
two longs.
Anyone know the answer?
Andi
At 02:28 PM 7/31/2002 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Could someone tell me why the Zend Engine calculates every multiplic
Theoretically these should be used when the engine is not in a "stable
state" (i.e. would crash on shutdown).
As this can also include PHP's code and PHP extensions I'm not really sure
how much this really helps.
Andi
At 08:04 AM 8/2/2002 -0700, Brad LaFountain wrote:
&g
two threads shouldn't really share the same
engine instance. It would mean that everything would have to be mutexed.
The solution of creating a separate interpreter instance and having a
couple of methods to share data in between them (like shared memory) is the
way to go.
As creating
At 02:43 AM 7/30/2002 -0400, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > Can't you share the patch before you just go ahead and just commit it? I
> > still have the same issue I used to have.
>
>Hey, the patch h
By the way, if we do end up making this kind of thing mainstream we should
probably use APR (or another library) for thread abstraction. I wouldn't
want to do all of that work over.
Andi
At 04:29 PM 8/3/2002 +0800, Alan Knowles wrote:
>Ok, had a play with this
>updated co
ion..
>** FIX = not sure? - does this need fixing or should we just ignore
>php_request_shutdown..
I think threads should be treated exactly like a separate request so I
think most code could run as is.
>due to the nature of thread scheduling, you dont get anything like '1
&
created this branch for stuff he was doing. When I package
Engine 2 alpha's I don't use the branch but use HEAD.
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Hey,
I'm going on a four day computer-less vacation starting tomorrow morning so
I won't be reading my Email.
If you guys send patches for the Engine 2 or other queries please give me
some time to reply when I get back. I'll look them over ASAP.
Thanks,
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That's really strange. Any chance bison is broken on Mac's?
Andi
At 06:15 PM 7/6/2002 -0700, R Blake wrote:
>continuing to explore this problem, i added --disable-inline-optimization
>to configure.
>
>now configure fails with:
>
> Thank you for using PHP.
>
t a very simple search&replace on your project should do the trick.
Thanks anyway,
Andi
At 03:06 PM 7/6/2002 +0800, Alan Knowles wrote:
>Attached hopefully is a patch to allow method names called delete .- not
>functions though..
>
>Speedwise it should not affect performance as its a
I'll take Pack 40.
Andi
At 03:25 PM 7/1/2002 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello QA-ers,
>
>it's the time of the year again, time for the PHP Bug Hunt Event! Although
>this is the first time, I'm pretty sure it will be fine.
>
>
that it's not uncommon doesn't mean it's easy to use. Look at
semop(). It's very common but not a very nice function to start using.
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At 10:03 PM 6/30/2002 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
> > My only problem with this patch is that I don't like API's which pass
> > around structs. I always find it cumbersome to have to create and fill the
> > struct a
My only problem with this patch is that I don't like API's which pass
around structs. I always find it cumbersome to have to create and fill the
struct and then pass it.
Can you think of something similar without using structs?
Andi
At 01:44 PM 6/30/2002 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrot
delete is a keyword like isset and unset so it makes sense for it to be
without the __.
Andi
At 11:41 AM 6/27/2002 +0200, Tit \"Black\" Petric wrote:
>[quote ZEND_CHANGES.txt]
>
> * Forced deletion of objects.
>
>.. yadda ..
>
> Note that if you have
the request and
then you should use the regular memory allocation functions).
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ized print functions anyway.
Does anyone feel like doing this? I don't have too much time :'(
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At 11:21 AM 6/27/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: mercredi 26 juin 2002 21:02
> > To: Brad LaFountain; Ivan Ristic; phpsurf
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sub
ot the other? Also what is the "(not binary
>safe)" part of a variable with a . in its name?
I guess this is a left over from register globals as you can't access
variables with . such as $image.x won't work (yeah you could always use
indirect references but I'm jus
Hey,
What I meant was nested classes, my bad :)
I meant it won't work for Foo::Bar::Barbara but only for class Foo.
Andi
At 11:56 AM 6/26/2002 -0700, Brad LaFountain wrote:
> > - will never work for sub-classes so don't even ask!
>
>Andi,
>
> This doesn't
it doesn't manage to find
- the class.
Andi
At 11:27 PM 6/11/2002 +0100, Ivan Ristic wrote:
> > Okay, I guess I can live with it :)
> >
> > Andi
>
> Is there anyone else who would like to comment on the
> patch?
>
> http://www.webkreator.com/downl
I don't quite understand. Can you give us a few examples, how they are
handled by PHP today and how they would be handled by your code.
I'll start off:
0.9+0.1
0.9+0.001
8/10.0 + 0.2
I'm sure you know of juicier examples :)
Andi
At 02:33 PM 6/26/2002 +0100, George Whiff
Can you try the latest CVS version? It should be fixed there.
Let me know...
Thanks,
Andi
At 11:04 PM 6/24/2002 +0200, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>Since i use ZendEngine2 i cannot use global $argc,$argv.
>
>Example:
>
>function somefunction() {
> global $argc, $argv;
>}
At 02:49 PM 6/24/2002 +0100, SCL List Client wrote:
>Sorry Andi, I was wrong. I never managed to test the returned references using
>the CVS version of PHP/Zend2 because I had assumed when I download the php4
>tree from the CVS I got Zend 2, so I compiled Zend 1.x by mistake. I can&#x
Hi,
This is a bug and I think I fixed it in the CVS version of the Engine.
Any chance you can grab it and check?
In any case, I just want to remind you that you will not want to return
objects by reference anymore with Engine 2 only possibly some other datatypes.
Andi
At 11:43 AM 6/24/2002
I don't think adding a note is a bad idea.
Andi
At 04:44 PM 6/22/2002 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote:
>Why? If you're commiting code you should know how to use these basic
>functions...
>
>besides, sprintf is not really all that bad...
>
>-Sterling
>
>
is used by
extensions to define some constants such as the constant
PREG_PATTERN_ORDER. It is registered at module startup.
Of course it'll die if the Apache process dies.
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eature nor eval() recovery.
Andi
At 11:59 AM 6/21/2002 +0200, Markus Fischer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think you're idea is pretty good, however not the way you
> engaged the current behaviour imho.
>
> PHP also supports 'lint'ing of source code aka. che
Hey,
Please test the attached patch and let me know if it works for you.
I haven't really had the chance to test it too much.
Andi
At 06:21 PM 6/15/2002 -0400, Ilia A. wrote:
>Andi,
>
>I wrote another patch, this time a 'proper' way, which means the old
>functionali
POSIX' locale
Right. For example, decimal's in PHP use a . (e.g. 3.14).
This should always be the case even if the locale uses a different
separator like , in German.
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We're not going to add configuration options which change the language's
behavior!
We've said this a million times.
Andi
At 09:41 PM 6/15/2002 +0200, Magnus M wrote:
>What about a configuration option in php.ini
>use_case_sensitive = 0|1
>and let it be 0 as default ?
ensitivity was chosen for them.
It's something to think about and not create a quick 2 line patch for the
problem. I think one of the suggestions was using two hash tables. First
doing a case-sensitive lookup and only if the constant isn't found doing a
case-insensitive lookup.
Andi
At
Ilia,
Your patch basically makes PHP constants case sensitive.
Changing this is a very big backwards compatibility problem.
You're not supposed to register two define's with the same letters but
different case.
Andi
At 01:21 PM 6/15/2002 -0400, Ilia A. wrote:
>Hello,
>
&
Hi,
Thanks for the good bug report. I have fixed this problem in the CVS.
Andi
At 12:39 PM 6/14/2002 +0200, Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote:
>Hi,
>
>following script segfaults at
>
>in doubleloop 10/22
>Segmentation fault
>
>class benchmark
>{
> var $index;
CVS which I might remove
later on. The most permanent things are temporary ones.
In any case, I'll look it over again on the weekend. It might make sense to
commit it and people will have to know that it only is meant for globally
scoped classes (which kind of makes sense anyway).
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is possibly pass it the result of MyClass2 being looked up in MyClass1 and
"MyClass3". The question is if people will manage to handle this. I think
it might be complicated and it might be best not to go in this direction.
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I have two problems here.
First of all I'd prefer it to call a predefined callback called
__autoload() if a class is not found.
The second problem is that I don't see it working with nested classes.
Is it good enough to only have this work with classes in the global scope?
Andi
At
Can someone please help out Wez? ;)
Thanks,
Andi
>From: "Wez Furlong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 01:39:53 +0100
>To: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Wez Furlong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Su
At 11:27 PM 6/11/2002 +0100, Ivan Ristic wrote:
> > Okay, I guess I can live with it :)
> >
> > Andi
>
> Is there anyone else who would like to comment on the
> patch?
>
> http://www.webkreator.com/download/class_autoload.patch
>
> Or can we have it
This should be fixed now.
Note, that it will only work if you are returning your return value by
reference. In engine 1 doing anything else was buggy.
Andi
At 07:16 PM 6/11/2002 +0300, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>It's supposed to work under the same circumstances as in Engine 1 (if you
27;ll look into it.
Andi
At 06:12 PM 6/11/2002 +0800, John Lim wrote:
>Hello,
>
>With the ZE 2, PHP 4.3.0-alpha
>
> :
> : # some init code
> :
>$aclass =& afunction($params);
>?>
>
>I get an error that looks like this:
>
>Fatal error: Can't use
At 07:55 AM 6/11/2002 -0400, l0t3k wrote:
>ive been looking over the ZE2 alpha release code for clues on porting my OO
>extension over to the new engine, but a few things are not clicking yet
>how do i raise an exception from C. last time i asked, Andi said that it
>would be suff
Okay, I guess I can live with it :)
Andi
At 02:40 PM 6/11/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
>I think handlers are the best solution to make this process configuratble
>without introducing a new ini option.
>we already have such handlers for errors ...
>and then one can define his ow
Or have a user-definable classpath. But I think it's better not to call
into PHP code.
Andi
At 11:32 PM 6/10/2002 +0300, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>I'd prefer not having a handler for autoloader. I'd prefer having the
>Engine look for ClassName.php in the default include_pat
I'd prefer not having a handler for autoloader. I'd prefer having the
Engine look for ClassName.php in the default include_path and if it doesn't
exist die... (i.e. not call any user-definable PHP function).
Andi
At 11:33 AM 6/10/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
>this patch wou
x27;t have a node for a certain size it uses
malloc(). So in the end it seems as if you might reach a situation where
you do lots of malloc()'s instead of allocating another few pages and
dividing them up yourself without mutexes.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't had time to study this code in
great depth.
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we can take an 8KB block from that allocator's free list
>rather than interacting with the system heap.
It sounds to me as if we're going to have to write a new allocator with the
same semantics as the Win32 API one.
I don't think any of these two allocators would suit us very well.
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At 10:47 AM 6/8/2002 -0700, Brian Pane wrote:
>Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
>>I just checked and it seems like Apache APR memory pools use mutex locking.
>>It'd be better to use functions like the Win32 ones which don't use mutex
>>locking (as we made sure that only
ne call "send bytes
> 375-10136 to the client as-is, it's inline html".
I don't believe that this is what's slowing PHP down on Apache 2. Don't
forget that after the first piece of PHP code we can't optimize inline
HTML any more because they can be conditional.
I think that the non-mutexed per-thread memory pool would improve
performance much more significantly.
Andi
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get Wez to write complete documentation for the API docs? :)
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At 10:41 AM 6/8/2002 +0300, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>At 09:12 PM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian Pane wrote:
>>In case it's helpful to the PHP developers, here are
>>some more performance problems that I found by running
>>a quick system call profile of PHP-4.2.1
l is to provide easy quick development for 'dynamic
>pages' , then why is there no built-in template engine?
>
>Having this would solve many of the niggling problems that are associated
>with current PHP-written (OO) template engines. Is it that there is no
>desir
27;t take too much
CPU time. You shouldn't test an empty html page but rather a real-life PHP
script. I've profiled PHP a lot and be aware that the profiling results
change a lot according to what script you're running. As it's gone through
various optimizations already th
At 01:14 PM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian France wrote:
>Yes, zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy() fixes the problem as well. Is
>this a better solution for the fix?
It's the same but doesn't require a new function.
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_destroy and zend_hash_destroy?
Yeah the destructor should be called. The graceful_destroy() is just a bit
more careful and used when destroying the resource list.
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Any idea why I got this when posting to php-dev?
Andi
>Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reject)
>Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:50:05 -0700
>X-Autogenerated: Reply
>To: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:
Can you check and see if using zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy() fixes
your problem?
Andi
At 11:44 AM 6/7/2002 -0700, Brian France wrote:
>Zend Engine unloading extension in the wrong order! (Re-post due to no
>response)
>
>I have been tracking down a core dump with my php ex
find it in the archives.
Andi
At 06:59 PM 6/6/2002 +0100, Dan Hardiker wrote:
> > I believe the OO level we have in ZE2 is the upper limit
> > of what a scripting language should have. There's no doubt in my mind
> > that going beyond that is going to complicate the l
At 09:25 PM 6/5/2002 +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
> >At 11:35 PM 6/4/2002 +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote:
> >
> >> The source snapshots don't have the bison/flex generated
> >> files anymore..why is that?
>
At 11:35 PM 6/4/2002 +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote:
> The source snapshots don't have the bison/flex generated
> files anymore..why is that?
genfiles was broken but I fixed it in HEAD. Is this still not the case?
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Was one of the questions about AG(allocated_memory)? Are you sure it's not
initialized in zend_alloc.c? I see an initialization there.
Andi
At 11:45 AM 6/4/2002 +0200, Hans Rakers wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>No offence, but whatever happened to the technical level on this list?
>
eing the evangelism guys come up with some nice ways of marketing PHP.
I'm including this because I think it's of great importance although it's
not a technical issue.
I'm sure you guys can think of a million things but if I'd have to pick big
main topics I think these would be them.
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At 03:27 PM 6/3/2002 +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
> >> >the web but more for Enterprise transaction based applications such as
> >> >billing systems.
> >>
> >> Twisting your words a bit: You don&#x
At 03:36 AM 6/3/2002 +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
> >At 04:21 PM 6/2/2002 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
> >>Jani Taskinen wrote:
> >> > I'm not that familiar with Java..so it would be nice to hear
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terprise Beans.
Are you aware how complex and expensive it is to create a Java application
server solution?
I know it's a great buzz word but in my opinion it is not very suitable for
the web but more for Enterprise transaction based applications such as
billing systems.
Andi
> And
gt; cons:
>Forces people to install themselves.
I just want to mention one of the more important reasons why I think it's a
good idea to include it in the tree. It means that PHP itself and its
extensions can rely on having the C API present and can add XML
functionality in various
Try now.
Andi
At 16:55 31/05/2002 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>Andi Gutmans wrote:
> > andiFri May 31 10:32:19 2002 EDT
> >
> > Modified files:
> > /ZendEngine2zend_objects.c
> > Log:
> > - Fix build
>
> I
ySQL libraries in our tree. One fix I had to apply myself
because they just didn't get to it.
I don't really mind because there wasn't anything critical but that's what
happened.
I
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more integrated in PHP.
So if you can cut it down to something small I'm +1.
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At 08:46 30/05/2002 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Thu, 30 May 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
> > I think that XML is a core technology and giving plug&play access to our
> > users is important. Having bundled the MySQL library made it easier for
> > people to get s
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