Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-20 Thread Zeev Suraski
I'll try to find some time to look at it. I need to re-familiarize myself with the output buffering code at some point anyway... At 07:57 20/09/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >Zeev Suraski wrote: >>At 12:27 19/09/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >> >>>Dan Hardiker wrote: >>> We are dealing with *idiot

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-20 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I *do* think that line numbers being linked like lxr.php.net is a good idea > and is a really easy thing to code. +1's? However, turning it on based on > linking to a numbered link isn't a great idea as links with # are much more > common than people using ?HIGHLIGHT_F

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 12:27 19/09/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > >> Dan Hardiker wrote: >> >>> We are dealing with *idiots* here. Their CODE doesnt work, they are >>> *learning* PHP, they want help on their *non-functional* code, easily, >>> simply and quickly. >>> We can already say "put this in

RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's what I thought also (as far as cvs access). I need to make a new > patch really quick because a bugfix was applied in the zend_highlight.c > file that wasn't apparent in the file that I was working with. This being > the first patch I've ma

RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Applied a little bit ago to help with translating documentation from to > Dutch, but I didn't have much luck (plus I'm not currently subscribed to > the Dutch m

RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Applied a little bit ago to help with translating documentation from to > Dutch, but I didn't have much luck (plus I'm not currently subscribed to > the Dutch manual mailing list, blah blah blah). Should I apply for an > account to commit this to t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, > And sensitive cleartext data like SQL passwords can always be passed > through environment variables. For instance, Apache has the 'Setenv' > directive to set this, and the httpd.conf file can be made only readable by > root. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the documentation to mod_auth_ext

RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
al Message: - From: James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:29:16 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading > At 20:10 19/09/2002, Adam Voigt wrote: > >Newbie's or

RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread James Cox
> At 20:10 19/09/2002, Adam Voigt wrote: > >Newbie's or people seeking help with bad security > >standards, could give away the password to there SQL server, etc. > >Maybe the phps parser or whatever it's called should automatically *** > >out the password fields of all the db, ftp, etc. calls. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:10 19/09/2002, Adam Voigt wrote: >Newbie's or people seeking help with bad security >standards, could give away the password to there SQL server, etc. >Maybe the phps parser or whatever it's called should automatically *** >out the password fields of all the db, ftp, etc. calls. I don't thi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
plain stupid. I hope everyone on php-dev@ agrees that this isn't a "vulnerability" Met vriendelijke groeten, Devon H. O'Dell sitetronics.com Original Message: - From: Jedi/Sector One [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:02:22 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Jedi/Sector One
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 01:56:03PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a security standard that is already inherent in the current phps > version. It is also not the job of PHP to save people from themselves. And sensitive cleartext data like SQL passwords can always be passed through en

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading Newbie's or people seeking help with bad security standards, could give away the password to there SQL server, etc. Maybe the phps parser or whatever it's called should

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Zeev Suraski
There's nothing inherent about .phps that is incompatible with output buffers. Fixing this should be simple enough. At 12:52 19/09/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >Markus Fischer wrote: >>On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:27:55PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : >>>Let's discourage usage of phps in the manual wh

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Adam Voigt
Newbie's or people seeking help with bad security standards, could give away the password to there SQL server, etc. Maybe the phps parser or whatever it's called should automatically *** out the password fields of all the db, ftp, etc. calls. Adam Voigt [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 13

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:27 19/09/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >Dan Hardiker wrote: >>We are dealing with *idiots* here. Their CODE doesnt work, they are >>*learning* PHP, they want help on their *non-functional* code, easily, >>simply and quickly. >>We can already say "put this in a .php file then give us the URL to i

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Dan Hardiker wrote: >>hm, what's the use of having a table here? > > > Because what if there is someone with a 10,000 line script? or just a 6 > line script? Then the indenting will look out of place or crooked. > > If we are outputing in HTML, why not *use* HTML ;) Tables allows the left > han

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Dan Hardiker
> hm, what's the use of having a table here? Because what if there is someone with a 10,000 line script? or just a 6 line script? Then the indenting will look out of place or crooked. If we are outputing in HTML, why not *use* HTML ;) Tables allows the left hand column to be flexable. Is there

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Devon O'Dell wrote: > Simple fix :) [...] http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.phps?HIGHLIGHT_FORMAT=lineno >>>This last url doesn't output anything. >>>Maybe because the HTML is broken? >>> >> >> missing hm, what's the use of having a table here? why not just one big environ

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Devon O'Dell
Simple fix :) Devon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Jani Taskinen wrote: > >>On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Dan Hardiker wrote: >> >>>For those of you who dont have time, or the capability to test it out for >>>yourself, please take the following exampes: >>> >>> http://www.dapond.net/code

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > > > > >>Let's discourage usage of phps in the manual while adding new feature. > > > > > > Let's not do that. There was no single bugreport about it. > > > > Could you reprod

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Jani Taskinen wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Dan Hardiker wrote: > > >For those of you who dont have time, or the capability to test it out for > >yourself, please take the following exampes: > > > > http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.php > > http://www.dapond.net/code/ba

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > >>Let's discourage usage of phps in the manual while adding new feature. > > > Let's not do that. There was no single bugreport about it. > Could you reproduce the problem now? -- Yasuo Ohgaki -- PHP Development Mai

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Dan Hardiker wrote: >For those of you who dont have time, or the capability to test it out for >yourself, please take the following exampes: > > http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.php > http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.phps > http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.phps

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>>No, I'm not sleepdy. There aren't any line numbers or variables in your >>>backtrace. This usually does happen when there is no debug info. >> >>Ah. I see. >>I'm on the machine httpd w/o --e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > No, I'm not sleepdy. There aren't any line numbers or variables in your > > backtrace. This usually does happen when there is no debug info. > > Ah. I see. > I'm on the machine httpd w/o --enable-debug now, but > isn't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > >>I guess you are sleepy :) >>Or my mail is messed up ? > > > No, I'm not sleepdy. There aren't any line numbers or variables in your > backtrace. This usually does happen when there is no debug info. Ah. I see. I'm on t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > I guess you are sleepy :) > Or my mail is messed up ? No, I'm not sleepdy. There aren't any line numbers or variables in your backtrace. This usually does happen when there is no debug info. Derick

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > >>I don't recall bug ID, but here is the backtrace. >> >>The cause would be output buffer and zend_printf does not >>work well together. Enabling any buffer segfualt php when >>phps is used. > > > this bt is pretty useless

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Markus Fischer
Ic, so Yasou, please open a bug report with the appropriate information so we have it in the DB, thx. On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:52:49PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : > Markus Fischer wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:27:55PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : > > > >>Let's discourage usage o

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > I don't recall bug ID, but here is the backtrace. > > The cause would be output buffer and zend_printf does not > work well together. Enabling any buffer segfualt php when > phps is used. this bt is pretty useless without any debug info in apache or PH

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Markus Fischer wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:27:55PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : > >>Let's discourage usage of phps in the manual while adding new feature. > > > Wait, stop. First hand over the related bug IDs, couldn't > find it only be text searching which you were refering to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Let's discourage usage of phps in the manual while adding new feature. Let's not do that. There was no single bugreport about it. Derick --- Derick Rethans

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Markus Fischer
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 06:27:55PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : > Let's discourage usage of phps in the manual while adding new feature. Wait, stop. First hand over the related bug IDs, couldn't find it only be text searching which you were refering to in an earlier post, before we at

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Dan Hardiker wrote: > We are dealing with *idiots* here. Their CODE doesnt work, they are > *learning* PHP, they want help on their *non-functional* code, easily, > simply and quickly. > > We can already say "put this in a .php file then give us the URL to it" > and cut n paste them a short scrip

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Dan Hardiker
>> For those of you who dont have time, or the capability to test it out >> for yourself, please take the following exampes: >> >> http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.php >> http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.phps >> http://www.dapond.net/code/backtrace.phps?HIGHLIGHT_FORMAT=default >> ht

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Me too. -- Yasuo Ohgaki James Cox wrote: > I agree. Lets jsut get this in the tree.. > > -- james > > >>On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:28:35AM +0100, Dan Hardiker wrote : >> >>>This doesnt demonstrate the use of the show_source (or other aliased) >>>function, but I assure you - it works similar

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-19 Thread derick
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Dan Hardiker wrote: > I still await a good reason for this not to become part of the standard > distribution, and any list of adverse side affects this poses. Where is the patch? :) I think it's about time that it gets integrated/ looked upon. Derick -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread derick
Looks great! Derick On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Dan Hardiker wrote: > Hi all [specifically those monitoring the patches thread], > > Ive noticed that alot of you seem to be asking questions which were > actually answered in the original post of the thread. Can I request that > anyone who has an opin

RE: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread James Cox
I agree. Lets jsut get this in the tree.. -- james > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:28:35AM +0100, Dan Hardiker wrote : > > This doesnt demonstrate the use of the show_source (or other aliased) > > function, but I assure you - it works similarly with an optional > > parameter, defaulting to cur

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread Markus Fischer
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:28:35AM +0100, Dan Hardiker wrote : > This doesnt demonstrate the use of the show_source (or other aliased) > function, but I assure you - it works similarly with an optional > parameter, defaulting to current behaviour. I hope you don't forget that highlight_file(

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread Paul Nicholson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 September 2002 09:49 pm, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Dan Hardiker wrote: > > Hi all [specifically those monitoring the patches thread], > > > > Ive noticed that alot of you seem to be asking questions which were > > actually answered in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Dan Hardiker wrote: > Hi all [specifically those monitoring the patches thread], > > Ive noticed that alot of you seem to be asking questions which were > actually answered in the original post of the thread. Can I request that > anyone who has an opinion on this matter both read the thread, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread Sascha Cunz
I totally agree to you - and i still can't catch up the point what the current discussion is about. Sascha > The underlying effect is minimal, no noticable change. The effect of > having the option there is mind blowing for IRC based support staff who > are dealing with (for want of a better wo

[PHP-DEV] Thread Reading

2002-09-18 Thread Dan Hardiker
Hi all [specifically those monitoring the patches thread], Ive noticed that alot of you seem to be asking questions which were actually answered in the original post of the thread. Can I request that anyone who has an opinion on this matter both read the thread, and (where possible) try out the p