Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, it's nice to see that everyone wants to develop extensions for PHP, but why do these extension go all into the main CVS tree? why not keep PHP more modular? Daniel Lorch -UrsprØngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrey Hristov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Datum : Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2001

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Martin Jansen
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:15:29 +0100, Daniel Lorch wrote: it's nice to see that everyone wants to develop extensions for PHP, but why do these extension go all into the main CVS tree? why not keep PHP more modular? New extension (ike the one, we are talking about) will go to PEAR and will not be

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Björn Schotte
* Idiot I am wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Erm, of course if that extension would be as powerful as PHPLIB's Template, IT[X] and Smarty together. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, Björn Schotte wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Sorry, but I am completely against it. -Andrei For society, it's probably a good thing that engineers value function over appearance. For example, you wouldn't want engineers to build nuclear power

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Björn Schotte
* Andrei Zmievski wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Sorry, but I am completely against it. Why? Björn. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, Björn Schotte wrote: * Andrei Zmievski wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Sorry, but I am completely against it. Why? See my previous message. -Andrei When I get a little money, I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes. --

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread derick
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, Björn Schotte wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Sorry, but I am completely against it. I agree with Andrei here. If an templating extension is bundled with PHP, it becomes the 'defacto supported' template

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread James Moore
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, Björn Schotte wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Sorry, but I am completely against it. +1, the only exception I might make would be Smarty as it is well designed and a lot of people use it but I dont think even smarty has a place in the PHP

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Andrei here. If an templating extension is bundled with PHP, it becomes the 'defacto supported' template engine. In other words, we will say that this is the best template engine, because it is bundled with PHP. Yes, and it will hurt

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, James Moore wrote: +1, the only exception I might make would be Smarty as it is well designed and a lot of people use it but I dont think even smarty has a place in the PHP Distribution. Perhaps in PEAR, but you are correct. -Andrei Complexity in the mind is not caused

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, besides, what makes templates slow are either string-replacements or regular expressions and these are anyway core parts of PHP, thus making a module won't speed up anyting. better contribute to PEAR and write this template class in PHP - more transparency for other users. Daniel,

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Martin Jansen
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:17:29 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, Björn Schotte wrote: I suggest ext/template being extemely important. Sorry, but I am completely against it. I agree with Andrei here. If an templating

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrey Hristov
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Björn Schotte [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, One thing I try to avoid is making assumptions, because most of the world's problems come from that. So perhaps you should make an RfC for inserting a (IMHO) after every word in every sentence of a posting to php-dev to satisfy your soul. actually we should declare some prototype. how

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, Web designers and pixel movers are yet too dumb to check how XSL(T) works. Ack. the average pixel mover doesn't even know how to code HTML, what doesn't keep them from creating webpages. sooner or later all major companies (macromedia, adobe ..) will include XSLT-export to their WYSIWYG

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrey Hristov
Proposal : libmyopinion.o (*heh*) Regards, Andrey - Original Message - From: Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates Hi, One thing I try to avoid is making assumptions

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, Daniel, no offending, but what you write makes completely no sense at all. A c-module is as fast as an extension in PHP. Why? It's the same. It just hangs out in PEAR in the CVS tree. And of course its faster then anything written in PHP. I was just thinking about the

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Andrey Hristov
Hristov - Original Message - From: Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Björn Schotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Martin Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] [NEW EXTENSTION]: templates

2001-12-05 Thread Boian Bonev
hi Daniel, when I look at /ext/ (PHP source) just to pick a random example: what's 'vpopmail' doing there (no personal offense to the author, really randomly picked)? I mean, vpopmail has it's own deamon and an interface written in PHP (ok, that one is ugly, it depends on global variables