Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread Yeti
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Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread Børge Holen
On Thursday 07 August 2008 03:57:06 you wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 00:46 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 20:00:50 tedd wrote: At 9:11 AM -0400 8/5/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread tedd
At 11:50 AM +0200 8/7/08, Børge Holen wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 03:57:06 you wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 00:46 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 20:00:50 tedd wrote: Sure it takes a lot of time to backup, but less than the alternative. I'm just gonna

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread Børge Holen
On Thursday 07 August 2008 16:28:12 tedd wrote: At 11:50 AM +0200 8/7/08, Børge Holen wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 03:57:06 you wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 00:46 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 20:00:50 tedd wrote: Sure it takes a lot of time to backup,

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread tedd
At 4:35 PM +0200 8/7/08, Børge Holen wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 16:28:12 tedd wrote: At 11:50 AM +0200 8/7/08, Børge Holen wrote: I'm just gonna comment some here. Hell, it's a bitch to loose data, but I give you this... These pro's here, ain't getting things done, no

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread Børge Holen
On Thursday 07 August 2008 16:58:32 tedd wrote: At 4:35 PM +0200 8/7/08, Børge Holen wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 16:28:12 tedd wrote: At 11:50 AM +0200 8/7/08, Børge Holen wrote: I'm just gonna comment some here. Hell, it's a bitch to loose data, but I give you this...

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-07 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 11:50 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 03:57:06 you wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 00:46 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 20:00:50 tedd wrote: At 9:11 AM -0400 8/5/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM,

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread tedd
At 9:11 AM -0400 8/5/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't like to loose my stuff, but I can't afford much for the best solutions either. It's not that my job depends on it, but personal data is a big loss too.

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread Børge Holen
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 20:00:50 tedd wrote: At 9:11 AM -0400 8/5/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't like to loose my stuff, but I can't afford much for the best solutions either. It's not that my job depends

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 00:46 +0200, Børge Holen wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 20:00:50 tedd wrote: At 9:11 AM -0400 8/5/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't like to loose my stuff, but I can't afford much

[PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi, Seems my 1and1 server has finally gone kaput taking my website with it, and in the tradition of all good IT professionals, I have no backups. :( So this is an appeal to you to ask if you have downloaded anything from phpguru.org at all, could you please send it to me so I can try to rebuild

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Seems my 1and1 server has finally gone kaput taking my website with it, and in the tradition of all good IT professionals, I have no backups. :( So this is an appeal to you to ask if you have downloaded anything from phpguru.org at all, could you please send it to me so

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi, What does Google cache has? And the Wayback Machine (http://www.archive.org/)? Coral Cache? Currently going through them. For some reason I've found a page with all CSS and JS intact. Odd, but fortunate. I'm going to have a look at my browser cache. Maybe I find something. Thanks. --

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Richard Heyes wrote: I'm going to have a look at my browser cache. Maybe I find something. Thanks. I'm sorry Richard, seems that my browser doesn't hold the history long enough. Forgive me to ask, but how come that you don't have much copies of your work? Do you work straight on

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Forgive me to ask, but how come that you don't have much copies of your work? Do you work straight on your server? I do, via WinSCP (now). This normally would be fine, except I haven't made any backups. Doh. I've got my editor (UltraEdit Studio) setup, that it makes a backup of the file I'm

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't like to loose my stuff, but I can't afford much for the best solutions either. It's not that my job depends on it, but personal data is a big loss too. Tell me about it. One of the sickest feelings in

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Tell me about it. One of the sickest feelings in the world comes when you hear your hard drive start going click click choke click I think the only reason I'm not sitting in a corner comatose is because I can't... :-) -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Per Jessen
Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't like to loose my stuff, but I can't afford much for the best solutions either. It's not that my job depends on it, but personal data is a big loss too. Tell me about it. One of

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't like to loose my stuff, but I can't afford much for the best solutions either. It's not that my job depends on it, but personal data is a big loss too. Tell me about it. One

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use two in every system. They're so cheap that it's not worth saving the expense. Yeah, now, thank God but remember, it wasn't always that way ;-P

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well.. I don't know about you and your empathy. But most of my sickest feelings are caused by human behavior, not hardware.. Some acts come from darker corners of a sick human mind, than the situations where

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Well.. I don't know about you and your empathy. But most of my sickest feelings are caused by human behavior, Hah, you probably wouldn't want to know about my feelings for 1and1 now then... -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
When the DiamondMax drives first came out, they were a couple hundred dollars each. I wanted to be the first guy on the block with a terabyte RAID, but I bought a car instead. I think I probably would rather have the HDDs. :/ Does that make me a geek? -- Richard Heyes

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the DiamondMax drives first came out, they were a couple hundred dollars each. I wanted to be the first guy on the block with a terabyte RAID, but I bought a car instead. I think I probably would rather have the

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:07 +0200, Aschwin Wesselius wrote: Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Seems my 1and1 server has finally gone kaput taking my website with it, and in the tradition of all good IT professionals, I have no backups. :( So this is an appeal to you to ask if you have downloaded

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:53 +0200, Aschwin Wesselius wrote: Richard Heyes wrote: I'm going to have a look at my browser cache. Maybe I find something. Thanks. I'm sorry Richard, seems that my browser doesn't hold the history long enough. Forgive me to ask, but how come that

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:32 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use two in every system. They're so cheap that it's not worth saving the expense. Yeah, now, thank God but remember, it wasn't always that way ;-P

RE: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Chris Haensel
-Original Message- From: Robert Cummings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:40 PM To: Aschwin Wesselius Cc: Richard Heyes; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:07 +0200, Aschwin Wesselius wrote

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Cheers mate! Don't worry, things could be worse! There's time yet... :-/ -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Micah Gersten
Seems like 1and1 screwed up their Apache installs. My site shows a blank page when I go to the domain, but when I go to index.php, it works. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Seems my 1and1 server has finally gone

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Richard Heyes
Seems like 1and1 screwed up their Apache installs. My site shows a blank page when I go to the domain, but when I go to index.php, it works. Doubt it's that. When I first got the server I reinstalled practically everything. -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing

Re: [PHP] An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Micah Gersten
I'm on a shared host, I should have mentioned that. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Richard Heyes wrote: Seems like 1and1 screwed up their Apache installs. My site shows a blank page when I go to the domain, but when I go to index.php, it