Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-04 Thread Steve Edberg
Well, you could do what the sunmanagers mailing list does...every so often (every month? every other month?) a 95KB FAQ is sent to all subscribers. However, the main problem is getting people to READ it. And those people likely to read it are probably the same people who'd do the requisite

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-04 Thread Jason Sheets
You aren't required to be subscribed to post to the list, so if you are not subscribed you will not see the FAQ or the discussion about how to post properly. You could make it be sent in the confirmation email when someone first posts to the email address but then you are making the mail

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-04 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 13:14:39 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [PHP] chill out what the universal translator turned into this: We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount of sarcasm and flaming that goes

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-04 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 02:20:01 -0500, Tim Thorburn wrote about Re: [PHP] chill out what the universal translator turned into this: In general, I've had great luck with this list - it just seems the majority of puter ppl don't have super ppl skills ;) That is more like an oximoron (sp?) ... comp

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-04 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
to get info on whatever common OT posts that eventually pop up ... So I'd agree to this ... Rene On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:21:24 +0500, Haseeb Iqbal wrote about Re: [PHP] chill out what the universal translator turned into this: hi all, just like to add something here, (which i recmended before

[PHP] Re:[PHP] Chill out

2003-04-03 Thread SLanger
First of all I comply with all my previouse poster. For all the readers of this list I'd suggest to read the following article: How to ask questions the smart way at http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html It's an instruction booklet on how to ask questions on lists like this.

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Mat Harris
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:20:01 +0800, Jason Wong wrote: On Thursday 03 April 2003 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount of sarcasm and flaming that goes on is huge.

RE: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Sysadmin
: [PHP] chill out Hi, I'd have to agree with the original poster on this topic - I've been on this list for about 3 years now, at times it is helpful - and then there's every other day. Granted, there are guru's out there that know all there is to know about PHP, and then there's the new kid

RE: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread bbonkosk
. :-) Cheers... Brian -Original Message- From: Tim Thorburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] chill out Hi, I'd have to agree with the original poster on this topic - I've been on this list for about 3 years

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Jason Wong
On Thursday 03 April 2003 08:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this list is a product of its own behavior. Some people do get mad because of dumb or simple questions. We breed those questions though because instead of people explaining to the OP how to FIND the answers, we just type out

RE: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Hunter, Jess
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] chill out On Thursday 03 April 2003 08:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this list is a product of its own behavior. Some people do get mad because of dumb or simple questions

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Miles Thompson
I mostly lurk -- my level of participation depends on what I'm working on. I do have these observations: 1. Far too many people don't try to help themselves first, i.e., by doing some creative searching /reading of (primarily) the manual. 2. A serious question usually gets prompt and helpful

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Miles Thompson
Jason ... A fellow proofreader!! Well done! Miles snip We all know your smarter than the rest of us ;-) I hope you don't think I'm making you stupid, but I think you mean you're. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz snip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Chris Hewitt
I lurk more than contribute. I'd contribute more (within the limitations of my knowledge) with more time. Being a fairly high volume list, I understand the frustration of considerably OT posts. I feel the list is not particularly suited to those both new to PHP and to programming. Other

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread David T-G
Miles -- ...and then Miles Thompson said... % % Jason ... % % A fellow proofreader!! Well done! Oh, there are lots of us out here, but I for one hesitated to jump into the discussion just for that :-) HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play)

[PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Alberto Brea
May I grab this opportunity to thank you for the load I've learnt on the list. A little row every now and then is colorful and makes work less boring. It also keeps you company if you are working alone. Keep up any rude behavior, it's fun to watch. The technical level is excellent and many

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Steve Keller
At 4/3/2003 01:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. Why do people assume that because they subscribe to a mailing list with their work address that the mailing list must hold to their company's standards? This list would have to be the

RE: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread daniel
lol , hey boyz and galz lets be professional now, we cant show the windoze ppl we are such a loose bunch now can we ? heh :D = Original Message From Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We subscribe to a few email lists on various

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread bob parker
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:39, daniel wrote: lol , hey boyz and galz lets be professional now, we cant show the windoze ppl we are such a loose bunch now can we ? heh :D Actually a lot of these folk are using wonders sadly. Bob -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread Haseeb Iqbal
hi all, just like to add something here, (which i recmended before) there should be a automated way to email all the new users about what php is, that explain them that php is server side and it can't do client side, just a plain email will do this will certinaly minimize the no of off topic

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-03 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
just like to add something here, (which i recmended before) there should be a automated way to email all the new users about what php is, that explain them that php is server side and it can't do client side, just a plain email will do this will certinaly minimize the no of off topic

[PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread steve
We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount of sarcasm and flaming that goes on is huge. Just try and remember - everyone has to learn, if you feel a question is off topic or stupid - ignore it, theres no need

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Sebastian
for a list that is not moderated i think it's doing quite well. this isn't a service so you get what you pay for ;) cheers, - Sebastian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. | | This list would have to be the worst for

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Leif K-Brooks
It's not people who don't know everything I have a problem. It's people who ask questions when the answer is right in front of their nose. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount of sarcasm and flaming that goes on is huge. fu2 -- __ (_ \

RE: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Matt Giddings
10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] chill out We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount of sarcasm and flaming that goes on is huge. Just try and remember - everyone has to learn, if you feel

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Jason Wong
On Thursday 03 April 2003 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We subscribe to a few email lists on various languages. This list would have to be the worst for anyone learning - the amount of sarcasm and flaming that goes on is huge. Try subscribing to the qmail list for a day or two. Just try

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Chris Blake
My two cents, I`ve been on the list a month now and I think it`s really cool that this type of thing exists. I`m new to PHP, read all the posts that come through, and 98% of the time don`t have a clue what is being spoken about, so the flaming and other comments provide a welcome relief from my

Re: [PHP] chill out

2003-04-02 Thread Tim Thorburn
Hi, I'd have to agree with the original poster on this topic - I've been on this list for about 3 years now, at times it is helpful - and then there's every other day. Granted, there are guru's out there that know all there is to know about PHP, and then there's the new kid that has no idea