RE: [PHP] New to PHP question

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 23:42 +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > I hate div'itis as well. Some people seem to think it's a big faux pas > to use table tags now, when that couldn't be more wrong. Use tables for > tabular data, CSS for the rest (with as few exceptions - and there are > always some eh -

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:45:07PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: On that note, what would be a better book to learn from? I have always been a fan of the O'Reilly books, but I am open to differing flavors of kool-aid. One can never have too many resources. The boo

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:41:31PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:26:10PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: >> >> >> >>> I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to >>> design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I fin

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Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:26:10PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it quicker to use tables is when I design forms. I know I'm going to browser he

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On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 16:05 -0600, Boyd, Todd M. wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM > > To: Paul M Foster > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP]

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:26:10PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to > design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it quicker > to use tables is when I design forms. I know I'm going to browser hell, > but meh,

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:33:19PM -0500, Ernie Kemp wrote: > Is there any advantage to using CSS over table and would it be idea to go > to > past website and change them. If it works, don't fix it. If you want to take the time to figure out how to get those same layouts in CSS, have a blast. B

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:45:07PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: >> > On that note, what would be a better book to learn from? I have always > been a fan of the O'Reilly books, but I am open to differing flavors of > kool-aid. One can never have too many resources. The book that sits on my desk and

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> -Original Message- > From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:40 PM > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question > > Boyd, Todd M. wrote: > > > > Finally, just because IE8 is (su

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Boyd, Todd M. wrote: The horror. Do not use tables for layout. Use CSS. Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8 which seems to be fully CCS standards compliant. Your high horse--get off of it. Dude! Did you read what I wrote? I wrote do not use tables for l

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Boyd, Todd M. wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM >> To: Paul M Foster >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question >> >> P

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> -Original Message- > From: Stephen [mailto:stephe...@rogers.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM > To: Paul M Foster > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > If you want exact lay

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > I use CSS as much as possible, and it's second nature to me now to > design with CSS rather than tables, but the only area I find it quicker > to use tables is when I design forms. I know I'm going to browser hell, > but meh, I can deal wi

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"Paul M Foster" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:40 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question > > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > >> If you want exact layout (columns > >> lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables. >

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On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 15:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:40:55PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > >> If you want exact layout (columns > >> lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables. > >> > >> > >> > > The horror. > > > > Do not use

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On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 13:45 -0700, Don Collier wrote: > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > See? This is what I'm talking about. > > > > *I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is > > just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP > > (IMO). And you're th

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"Don Collier" wrote in message news:4980c3d3.8040...@collierclan.com... > > > Paul M Foster wrote: >> See? This is what I'm talking about. >> >> *I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is >> just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP >> (IM

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Paul M Foster wrote: See? This is what I'm talking about. *I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP (IMO). And you're throwing MVC at him. Let him master the subtleties of the language first, th

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:06:36PM -0500, Bastien Koert wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don Collier >wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> I am just le

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Is there any advantage to using CSS over table and would it be idea to go to past website and change them. /Ernie - Original Message - From: "Stephen" Newsgroups: php.general To: "Paul M Foster" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [PHP]

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:06:36PM -0500, Bastien Koert wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don Collier wrote: > > > > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I > >>> have a quest

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:40:55PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: >> If you want exact layout (columns >> lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables. >> >> >> > The horror. > > Do not use tables for layout. > > Use CSS. > > Especially now that Microsoft, just this w

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Don Collier wrote: > From what I am seeing in the responses if I plan on using php for > command line scripts things get written one way. If, on the other > hand, the php is written for a web page it gets written a slightly > different way inserting html where necessary for formatting. No, the s

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2009/1/28 Stephen : > Don Collier wrote: >> >> I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I have >> a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a couple of >> questions. >> >> First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it works >> grea

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Don Collier wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I >>> have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

Paul M Foster wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a couple of questions. First, when I use the \n and run the script from

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 14:40 -0500, Stephen wrote: > Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8 > which > seems to be fully CCS standards compliant. *snigger* I'll believe that when I see it, rather I give it to you oh web developers everywhere, that this is just a new M$

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

Paul M Foster wrote: If you want exact layout (columns lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables. The horror. Do not use tables for layout. Use CSS. Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8 which seems to be fully CCS standards compliant. S

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:05:34PM -0700, Don Collier wrote: > I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I > have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a > couple of questions. > > First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it

Re: [PHP] New to PHP question

Don Collier wrote: I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a couple of questions. First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it works great. When I run the same code in a bro

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Don Collier wrote: > First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it > works great. When I run the same code in a browser it does not put > the newline in and the text runs together. I know that I can use > to do the same thing, but why is it this way? That's how HTML wor

[PHP] New to PHP question

I am just learning PHP from the O'Reilly "Learning PHP 5" book and I have a question regarding the formatting of text. Actually it is a couple of questions. First, when I use the \n and run the script from the command line it works great. When I run the same code in a browser it does not put

RE: [PHP] new to php question

Luke Brindley on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:37 AM said: > Specifically, I want to create an online form that the > booking agent can fill out with information like Date, Time, Cover > Charge, Band Name, Description, etc and have this data populate the > calendar pa

[PHP] new to php question

I'm new to php but want to use it for a music club's website I'm working on. Specifically, I want to create an online form that the booking agent can fill out with information like Date, Time, Cover Charge, Band Name, Description, etc and have this data populate the calendar page in chronologi