[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nichel) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
CR Just a thought, but would it be worth someone posting the list
CR once a week to catch new users as they sign up?
Isn't it posted once a month as it is?
[/snip]
It used to be, but it seems
[snip]
Now, perhaps, an INTERESTING project for some of us to work on would be
that system:
Spec:
Robot subscriber to PHP-General.
Reads all incoming messages.
Discards anything that looks like a 'Reply:' including:
Has 'Re: ' or 'Fwd: in subject
Has Message ID in-reply-to header thingies
[snip]
I'm not going to promise any of this. If someone else is willing to
donate the hardware to make this happen then contact me / the list. Of
course anyone else that wants to donate coding time is more than welcome
to join project ParrotHeadPoster. :)
I can already imagine it now...
[snip]
...lots of really good stuff...
[/snip]
So, basically I saw 3 possible action items from this discussion...
1. phParrot development
2. Weekly CRON of NEWBIE GUIDE (once I get the e-mail portion figured
out)
3. OT posts should contain a TIP or TRICK? If we did this we could
harvest them
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
Now, perhaps, an INTERESTING project for some of us to work on would be
that system:
Spec:
Robot subscriber to PHP-General.
Reads all incoming messages.
Discards anything that looks like a 'Reply:' including:
Has 'Re: ' or 'Fwd: in subject
Has Message ID
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
...lots of really good stuff...
[/snip]
So, basically I saw 3 possible action items from this discussion...
1. phParrot development
2. Weekly CRON of NEWBIE GUIDE (once I get the e-mail portion figured
out)
3. OT posts should contain a TIP or TRICK? If we did this we
[snip]
4. a website/subsite related DB to store data for phParrot, tips, etc.
phparrot.net is up for grabs - I'm happy to register it (can't grace the
list with
ace mathematical explainations :-) but I'm happy to shell out a few
bucks as a way
of giving back a little) - and I'd just as happily
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
4. a website/subsite related DB to store data for phParrot, tips, etc.
phparrot.net is up for grabs - I'm happy to register it (can't grace the
list with
ace mathematical explainations :-) but I'm happy to shell out a few
bucks as a way
of giving back a little) - and
Hello Chris,
Tuesday, January 25, 2005, 2:03:09 PM, you wrote:
CR Just a thought, but would it be worth someone posting the list
CR once a week to catch new users as they sign up?
Isn't it posted once a month as it is?
Best regards,
Richard Davey
--
http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP
[snip]
CR Just a thought, but would it be worth someone posting the list
CR once a week to catch new users as they sign up?
Isn't it posted once a month as it is?
[/snip]
It used to be, but it seems that it hasn't been posted in a while. So I
retrieved it and posted it. I was thinking about
Richard TheList...
Isn't it posted once a month as it is?
Hot damn! That'll be why I have never seen it then! :/
Apologies to all!!!
Chris Ramsay
-
Web Developer - The Danwood Group Ltd.
T: +44 (0) 1522 834482
F: +44 (0) 1522
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
JB It used to be, but it seems that it hasn't been posted in a while.
So I
JB retrieved it and posted it. I was thinking about setting up a cron
to
JB post it every other day or so.
I think once a week would be more than enough. You have to actually
hope the newbies
Great List...
although.. .just having a sense humor here... i think every topic has
been covered a number of times... which means no one should be posting
questions at the php list... cause they are all in the archive :0)
cheers!
Joe
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:48:53 -0500, Jason Barnett
[EMAIL
[snip]
although.. .just having a sense humor here... i think every topic has
been covered a number of times... which means no one should be posting
questions at the php list... cause they are all in the archive :0)
[/snip]
Maybe...except for PHP5 :) !
--
PHP General Mailing List
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
although.. .just having a sense humor here... i think every topic has
been covered a number of times... which means no one should be posting
questions at the php list... cause they are all in the archive :0)
[/snip]
Maybe...except for PHP5 :) !
That and XML / SOAP.
[snip]
...stuff...
[/snip]
This is interesting, I set up the mail line for the CRON to read
mail(php-general@lists.php.net, [NEWBIE GUIDE] - For benefit of new
list members, $msg, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
And the test mail did not
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
CR Just a thought, but would it be worth someone posting the list
CR once a week to catch new users as they sign up?
Isn't it posted once a month as it is?
[/snip]
It used to be, but it seems that it hasn't been posted in a while. So I
retrieved it and posted it. I was
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
stuff...
[/snip]
This is interesting, I set up the mail line for the CRON to read
mail(php-general@lists.php.net, [NEWBIE GUIDE] - For benefit of new
list members, $msg, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
And the
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
...stuff...
[/snip]
This is interesting, I set up the mail line for the CRON to read
mail(php-general@lists.php.net, [NEWBIE GUIDE] - For benefit of new
list members, $msg, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
And the
John Nichel wrote:
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
CR Just a thought, but would it be worth someone posting the list
CR once a week to catch new users as they sign up?
Isn't it posted once a month as it is?
[/snip]
It used to be, but it seems that it hasn't been posted in a while. So I
retrieved it
[snip]
This is interesting, I set up the mail line for the CRON to read
mail(php-general@lists.php.net, [NEWBIE GUIDE] - For benefit of new
list members, $msg, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
And the test mail did not appear on the
[snip]
I think that Justin Patrin started up a wiki for PHP, but he hasn't been
on the list in a while and I can't remember what the url for his wiki
was. But he had a fair amount of useful code in there that would be a
great start for this project.
AND ...
Yeah the list is pretty high
I think sending it to the list every so often, via cron isn't the best
way to handle it. I've read it once, I don't see the point in getting
it again. Perhaps, is the list admins were willing, it could be set up
to be sent to all newbies, as part of the subscription process. To
ensure that it is
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:15:37 +, Rory Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think sending it to the list every so often, via cron isn't the best
way to handle it. I've read it once, I don't see the point in getting
it again. Perhaps, is the list admins were willing, it could be set up
to be
Greg Donald mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:36 AM said:
The Perl solution many years ago was to make a newbie list. My local
Linux user group solution last year was to make a newbie list.
This idea has been presented too.
All the smart people will go to the
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:36:17 -0600, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:15:37 +, Rory Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think sending it to the list every so often, via cron isn't the best
way to handle it. I've read it once, I don't see the point in getting
it
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:19:12 -0800, Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All the smart people will go to the advanced (or normal) list and
leave all the n00bs by themselves to answer questions like, I tried to
download the internets with PHP to my compy 386 but it didn't work. PLZ
HLP!
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
This is interesting, I set up the mail line for the CRON to read
mail(php-general@lists.php.net, [NEWBIE GUIDE] - For benefit of new
list members, $msg, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . X-Mailer: PHP/ . phpversion());
And the test mail
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
I think that Justin Patrin started up a wiki for PHP, but he hasn't been
on the list in a while and I can't remember what the url for his wiki
was. But he had a fair amount of useful code in there that would be a
great start for this project.
AND ...
Yeah the list
Rory Browne wrote:
I think sending it to the list every so often, via cron isn't the best
way to handle it. I've read it once, I don't see the point in getting
indeed not the best way but...
it again. Perhaps, is the list admins were willing, it could be set up
considering the ammount of
Greg Donald wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:19:12 -0800, Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I for one would subscribe and remain a member of a php-newbie list.
Never too smart to learn something new.
I think that that comment makes Greg a good candidate for 'Chief Archiver'.
straight up.
I for one would subscribe and remain a member of a php-newbie list.
Never too smart to learn something new.
In years past, when this topic has re-re-re-re-re-re-surfaced, the general
consensus always seems to be that most of us would just end up subscribed
to two lists, the newbies would
Greg Donald wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:15:37 +, Rory Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think sending it to the list every so often, via cron isn't the best
way to handle it. I've read it once, I don't see the point in getting
it again. Perhaps, is the list admins were willing, it could be
[snip]
Is it only me, or are the number of posts about posts now out-numbering
the number of 'real' posts?... :-^
[/snip]
I cannot be sure, so we must need a poll. And is a post about posts not
really real or does it have some sort of existential non-sameness?
We could always demand that posts
Jochem Maas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:23 AM said:
Greg Donald wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:19:12 -0800, Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Ok so maybe it wasn't as funny in the email as it was in my head but
gosh where did everyone's sense
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 11:15, Rory Browne wrote:
P.S. An addition to the above, a reminder that you have to CC to
php-general@lists.php.net, for responses to be sent to the list might
be a good idea. I've lost count of how many times I've forgotten to do
this, including this time(sorry Jay),
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
Is it only me, or are the number of posts about posts now out-numbering
the number of 'real' posts?... :-^
[/snip]
I cannot be sure, so we must need a poll. And is a post about posts not
really real or does it have some sort of existential non-sameness?
We could always
Oh and by the way, whenever I'm creating the skeleton of a new class I
will usually insert the following code snippet into the functions to let
me know I have to come back and actually implement it later.
if ($class = __CLASS__) {
trigger_error(__CLASS__ . '::' . __FUNCTION__ . ' is not
Richard Lynch wrote:
Oh and by the way, whenever I'm creating the skeleton of a new class I
will usually insert the following code snippet into the functions to let
me know I have to come back and actually implement it later.
if ($class = __CLASS__) {
trigger_error(__CLASS__ . '::' .
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 02:41, Greg Donald wrote:
If one of us newbies gets no answer after a few days, we would realize
no one knows the answer and would probably repost the question to
another list.
The clever newbie will cover all bases and cross-post to as many lists as
possible.
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 06:54:32 +0800, Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway who decides what is a newbie question? I don't think a newbie would be
in a position to ascertain whether their question is considered newbie.
My definition of a PHP newbie would be a person who is just starting
to
or will all you advanced guys/girls spend countless hours repeatedly
asking people to post code, use print_r()/var_dump() etc... without so
much as
halfbaked challenge in sight?
Yes. :-)
Perhaps I should explain why.
Once upon a time, a long time ago, I was new to PHP.
And I was a good
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 07:27, Greg Donald wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 06:54:32 +0800, Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Anyway who decides what is a newbie question? I don't think a newbie
would be in a position to ascertain whether their question is considered
newbie.
My
Richard Lynch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:35 PM said:
or will all you advanced guys/girls spend countless hours repeatedly
asking people to post code, use print_r()/var_dump() etc... without
so much as halfbaked challenge in sight?
Yes. :-)
Perhaps I
Richard Lynch wrote:
...
Now, perhaps, an INTERESTING project for some of us to work on would be
that system:
Spec:
Robot subscriber to PHP-General.
Reads all incoming messages.
Discards anything that looks like a 'Reply:' including:
Has 'Re: ' or 'Fwd: in subject
Has Message ID in-reply-to
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:46:20 +0800, Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMO there are no difference between 'newbie' questions and 'non-newbie'
questions.
Sure there is. For example a newbie might be needing some help
debugging an array and may not have ran into the print_r() manual page
yet..
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:46, Greg Donald wrote:
For example a newbie might be needing some help
debugging an array and may not have ran into the print_r() manual page
yet.. Meanwhile the same newbie probably wouldn't be asking why their
shiny new constructor doesn't automatically
Jochem Maas wrote:
Jay Blanchard wrote:
...
Jay, great list BTW - I was thinking maybe we could drop it on a site/wiki
or something which could also contain stuff that comes up again and again,
or stuff that even the 6month y/o newbie finds trivial or just good stuff
thats been condensed from the
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:41:49 -0400, John Taylor-Johnston
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. As a newbie, something I like to try also is making a second file with phps
as the extension.
Sometimes reading my code in colour helps me see things better. Sometimes I forget a
semi-colon ; and will
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