Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

>
> As I mentioned below, if PHP is sluggish, shouldn't it be brought up
> to the PHP developers instead?  Why would you try include more
> complexity?

I'm sure it has, it's called benchmarks. And they can't top C or
Fortran, last I saw. But that is not the point. And did you not see my
point about how it's just an initial usage of C to put out php and
html/css/js, and that 'complexity' must be as simple as a printf
function in another language. Why don't you snatch your nose out of
php's asshole for a second to realize it's not the center of a
multilanguage project, and sometimes neither is C, or any other
language It's the consumers, or the designers, or yours.

>
>>>
>>> Just a case scenario.  If C is included to 'to spit out the above in
>>> html/php/js/css' and should you happen to be out town/country on
>>> vacation, the other developer(s) doesn't know C and the application
>>> requires some minor bug fix or minor addition.  The problem is now
>>> that modification required is in C.
>>
>> No, the problem lies in the error message, which lies in the
>> underlying language.

If you don't know step by step function programming, or debugging,
then why are you arguing with me?

And familiarity with work is in properly
>> commented and documented code. If the company isn't willing to
>> maintain that throughout the course of development, then your
>> misunderstanding is money out of their pocket.

Nah, just your clients, and that should have been accounted for in
your project bid.

>>
>>
>>   Do you want your vacation
>>> disturbed?
>>
>> For money, I comment and document, but disturbed isn't a problem, as
>> long as it's a guaranteed under the contract.
>>
>> Except in the case of an emergency, I don't. :)
>>
>> But does the contract end at consumer misuse, or your discretion, and
>> do they decide, or you? And then when does that end, when you're too
>> important to respond, or had a better offer?
>>
>>  Not to
>>> mention if where you're vacationing at have a fast internet
>>> connection, or even an internet connection at all.  While this
>>> approach may mean job stability in this situation, I could see it
>>> opposite as it causes more down time for the business as being unable
>>> to adapt quickly to the ever changing needs required by the economy
>>> and/or customers/clients.  In the end, if the business can't stay in
>>> business, you're out of a job.  In one of my recent job experience, I
>>> was in a 3 person IT team.  d
>>
>> You mean you and a few guys/gals got together, and threw together an app?
>>
>>
>> We have a DBA, developer (also the
>>> manager), and I'm the system/network/telecom admin.
>>
>> You probably got a thesaurus, and small business guide to success too.
>>
>
> No, the DBA is needed because the amount of the data that our site
> handles for the customers specific to local region.  The manager just
> happens to be a software developer.

Did he tell you that, or provide credentials? That;s what most project
heads do, I assume.


We only wrote codes because we
> needed some functionality to improve efficiency of the site.  Prior to
> writing the code, we had submitted a BRD to corporate for them to
> provide us that functionality.  They said it's not necessary without
> further explanation.  In the end, we all left the company because
> upper management didn't seem to be really business & economic aware.
> Even the site manager left the company too.  For me, when the CEO
> gives a presentation about outlook for the company, he said that
> 'we're still trying to figure out why the company didn't meet last
> year projections'.  This was 6 months in the new fiscal year.  I lost
> all respect for upper management.  In all my job experiences, except
> that company, all of the upper management are very concerned about how
> on track is the company with the projections on a month by month
> basis.  They all wanted daily, weekly, and monthly reports.  That
> company didn't ask for any.
>
>>
>>   We all have cross
>>> discipline experience and train ourselves in areas we lack for basic
>>> support.
>>
>> Not going to argue there, see my response from experience above.
>>
>>  Every one of us don't have a problem taking a month vacation
>>
>>
>> Vacation in IT is an oxymoron, and so is intellectual unavailability,
>> especially with the current interconnectivity.
>>
>
> Is it?  In one of my job experience, a director once asked me why he
> didn't see any problems from my area.  I simply told him that if he
> did, then I wasn't be doing my job.

Maybe by 'problems' he meant other than what you think are problems.
ANd maybe he thinks your job is to report maybe employee unhapiness,
instead of employee misbehavior, maybe the miscommunication is in
terminology of the word "problem"

  That being said.  Doing your job
> means that you should still have a peace of mind to take a vacation or
> sleep better at night.

But how does the client take peace of mind when you're unavailable?




>
>>> out

Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:22 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> This isn't a C/PHP question, or optimization, it's a matter of PHP
>> isn't always the center of attention, in terms of a development
>> process. In each language there are advocates, and it's admirable, but
>> ignorant in sight that what you're saying eliminates the rational, and
>> logical thought that there are other languages that can be utilized as
>> the center of development, and have higher level optimization in mind.
>>
>> If you use C, then as optimization, and software evolution occurs, you
>> can move toward elimination the higher level prototyping languages,
>> and move it toward the C (lower level)implementation. You start with
>> just the spit out portion of C, and use the higher levels to
>> prototype...then remove the higher level as you eliminate the
>> inefficient portions, and replace with lower level, C,
>> implementations of these higher level/platform dependent prototyped
>> functions.
>>
>
> Isn't this true for every other languages such Python, Perl, and Java?
>  They were written in C at the core.  If the language in use can't
> provide the functionality needed, then yes, I see the need for C.  If
> using C just for optimization, then aren't selling yourself short for
> longer development and maintenance time when too many languages
> involved?

Not C just for opto, but basic C for the later project utilization.
It's just a quick spit out of the other languages which are
interpolated to C string on the page.

A simple C string with everything else you want in the higher level
languages. But then you decide a few php results are slow, so you use
a C function. Then you decide a few python functions are slow when
returning a js mouseover, so you use a js or C function.

It's just a simple platform to use the higher level 'prototype' languages on.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

probably so, but it it's just another discussion we should have just
for evolutions sake. Each time it takes place, new info is added by
someone.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:06 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:39 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM, David Hutto  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, David Hutto  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Although, right now, if I were going to be using all of those
>>>>>>>> languages in unison(and I am), then I'd go with C, and spit them out
>>>>>>>> to the browser for lower level control, as well as, to remain familiar
>>>>>>>> with some of the main languages being used currently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But then how portable is your app?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have to refer to your reply:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "This would depend on the original application design & code."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the original app is meant for specific hardware, and a specific
>>>>>> company, then portability is null point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's the case why even bother with PHP?  Why not just do it in C
>>>>> for pure speed?
>>>>
>>>> Speed wasn't the point- Multiple technology usage was the point. And
>>>> if you're going to poise a browser for multiple intercepts(in terms of
>>>> languages), then C *seems* to be the best was to move toward the
>>>> displayment of it's descendants.
>>>>
>>>> If it's going to be a multi-language project, then it needs to be
>>>> addressed with a multilanguage source to stem from, and C would seem
>>>> like the optimum epicenter for propagation of this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought one of the major points of PHP is 'develop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> anywhere and deploy anywhere'.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> In the OP's case, where would C fit in when you have HTML, JS, and PHP
>>> - PHP would produce the resultant text in addtion to JS & HTML.  What
>>> would be the 'specific need' to do work in C where PHP, its many
>>> extensions and library (PECL & PEAR), and lots of the other PHP code
>>> based libraries/frameworks out there already to do the job?  The way I
>>> look at it, if too many languages are involved then most likely the
>>> application design is over complicated.
>>
>> Because you've been taught that C is over complicated in an
>> optimization standpoint. Just to spit out the above in html/php/js/css
>> in a C framework is simpler than you think. A little printf. And you
>> speak of optimization, but lack the prethought for implementation for
>> these optimizations.
>>
>> How can you move toward a lower level if you don't start on one. You
>> seem stuck on the PHP portion of this, rather than the whole outlook
>> of using multiple languages and technologies through a centralized
>> means to accomplish a specific end, which can be easily optimized.
>>
>
> I thought the whole objective of higher level language is to provide
> an easier application design and coding, in addition to shorter
> development & maintenance time.  Why go back to lower level, isn't
> that defeating the purpose?

That was the point of the term 'prototyping'. A language used to
prototype, but built on a framework of optimization, in which the
prototype language can be eliminated for the lower level performance
bottlenecks.

>
> Just a case scenario.  If C is included to 'to spit out the above in
> html/php/js/css' and should you happen to be out town/country on
> vacation, the other developer(s) doesn't know C and the application
> requires some minor bug fix or minor addition.  The problem is now
> that modification required is in C.

No, the problem lies in the error message, which lies in the
underlying language. And familiarity with work is in properly
commented and documented code. If the company isn't willing to
maintain that throughout the course of development, then your
misunderstanding is money out of their pocket.


  Do you want your vacation
> dist

Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

This isn't a C/PHP question, or optimization, it's a matter of PHP
isn't always the center of attention, in terms of a development
process. In each language there are advocates, and it's admirable, but
ignorant in sight that what you're saying eliminates the rational, and
logical thought that there are other languages that can be utilized as
the center of development, and have higher level optimization in mind.

If you use C, then as optimization, and software evolution occurs, you
can move toward elimination the higher level prototyping languages,
and move it toward the C (lower level)implementation. You start with
just the spit out portion of C, and use the higher levels to
prototype...then remove the higher level as you eliminate the
inefficient portions, and replace with lower level, C,
implementations of these higher level/platform dependent prototyped
functions.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:59 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> Optimization also becomes a more manipulative, due to the stem point
>> of your further language utilization. If you divide your languages,
>> and disperse them through a C framework, you can utilize the languages
>> in their refined form, and if any portion of an individual language
>> gives optimization problems, you move that particular segment toward a
>> more optimized C implementation.
>>
>
> Seems to me you're going in circle.  Portability is null.

Are you still stuck in developing for the masses? Because jobs are
limited there. Development for corps requires development for specific
hardware not a mass of consumers.


> Multi-language support and yet 'toward a more optimized C
> implementation'?

Did you forget the term "epicenter" of an app/site?

  Going back to my previous question then, 'what's the
> point of PHP' in all of this when you're trying to achieve an
> optimized C application?
>

PHP is just a portion of the ripple from C, which can got to php(e.g.
echo "html"), and then js in the html, and css in the html, but either
can be used in the html with interpolation of strings. Thhe C acts as
the pivot point, intertwining the languages above. You can use each
one individually. You could do this from a php
standpoint/python/html/etc. C becomes the root and the others just
branches and leaves woven together with %whatever.


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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:39 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, David Hutto  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Although, right now, if I were going to be using all of those
>>>>>> languages in unison(and I am), then I'd go with C, and spit them out
>>>>>> to the browser for lower level control, as well as, to remain familiar
>>>>>> with some of the main languages being used currently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But then how portable is your app?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd have to refer to your reply:
>>>>
>>>> "This would depend on the original application design & code."
>>>>
>>>> If the original app is meant for specific hardware, and a specific
>>>> company, then portability is null point.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If that's the case why even bother with PHP?  Why not just do it in C
>>> for pure speed?
>>
>> Speed wasn't the point- Multiple technology usage was the point. And
>> if you're going to poise a browser for multiple intercepts(in terms of
>> languages), then C *seems* to be the best was to move toward the
>> displayment of it's descendants.
>>
>> If it's going to be a multi-language project, then it needs to be
>> addressed with a multilanguage source to stem from, and C would seem
>> like the optimum epicenter for propagation of this.
>>
>>
>> I thought one of the major points of PHP is 'develop
>>
>>
>>> anywhere and deploy anywhere'.
>>>
>>
>
> In the OP's case, where would C fit in when you have HTML, JS, and PHP
> - PHP would produce the resultant text in addtion to JS & HTML.  What
> would be the 'specific need' to do work in C where PHP, its many
> extensions and library (PECL & PEAR), and lots of the other PHP code
> based libraries/frameworks out there already to do the job?  The way I
> look at it, if too many languages are involved then most likely the
> application design is over complicated.

Because you've been taught that C is over complicated in an
optimization standpoint. Just to spit out the above in html/php/js/css
in a C framework is simpler than you think. A little printf. And you
speak of optimization, but lack the prethought for implementation for
these optimizations.

How can you move toward a lower level if you don't start on one. You
seem stuck on the PHP portion of this, rather than the whole outlook
of using multiple languages and technologies through a centralized
means to accomplish a specific end, which can be easily optimized.


>
> SQL = back end data storage
> PHP = processing input/output, including back end data
> HTML/XML = document layout for nice hierarchical format
> JS/Flash = client side effects and processing to offload some server load
>
> Each already designed and made to do the the specific function and are
> nicely coupled together.  From the above, I've yet to see the need to
> write C code for the PHP based application - with the exception of
> threads, and let's not get into it again... lol.
>

It's not a 'hard coded' C, it's just a print to the page with C as the
conveyor for each. You can then utilize C to partition each language
for refinement in the overall.


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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

Optimization also becomes a more manipulative, due to the stem point
of your further language utilization. If you divide your languages,
and disperse them through a C framework, you can utilize the languages
in their refined form, and if any portion of an individual language
gives optimization problems, you move that particular segment toward a
more optimized C implementation.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:26 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>>>> Although, right now, if I were going to be using all of those
>>>> languages in unison(and I am), then I'd go with C, and spit them out
>>>> to the browser for lower level control, as well as, to remain familiar
>>>> with some of the main languages being used currently.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But then how portable is your app?
>>>
>>
>> I'd have to refer to your reply:
>>
>> "This would depend on the original application design & code."
>>
>> If the original app is meant for specific hardware, and a specific
>> company, then portability is null point.
>>
>
> If that's the case why even bother with PHP?  Why not just do it in C
> for pure speed?

Speed wasn't the point- Multiple technology usage was the point. And
if you're going to poise a browser for multiple intercepts(in terms of
languages), then C *seems* to be the best was to move toward the
displayment of it's descendants.

If it's going to be a multi-language project, then it needs to be
addressed with a multilanguage source to stem from, and C would seem
like the optimum epicenter for propagation of this.


I thought one of the major points of PHP is 'develop


> anywhere and deploy anywhere'.
>

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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> Although, right now, if I were going to be using all of those
>> languages in unison(and I am), then I'd go with C, and spit them out
>> to the browser for lower level control, as well as, to remain familiar
>> with some of the main languages being used currently.
>>
>
> But then how portable is your app?
>

I'd have to refer to your reply:

"This would depend on the original application design & code."

If the original app is meant for specific hardware, and a specific
company, then portability is null point.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Tommy Pham  wrote:
> I think the OP is having both PHP & JS codes mixed and scattered all
> over the page.  If chunked-encoding used without any ob*
> implementation, then that's the problem he'll experience.
>
> Richard,
>
> I recommend to put the $(document).ready() and any JS scriptlets
> within  tags at the very bottom of the HTML document just
> right before .  This would allow the mixed PHP/HTML to finish
> without creating problems for your JS code(s).

Why not separate them all, i.e. js, php, html, and if it was in there,
css. If you can use them all, then separating them out should be
*easy*(I still would have to use references for that many languages).
Think of it as an expository writing, with the includes being the main
topics, the content being composed of these higher ideas, and the
conclusion, just closing it out.

Pick the focus, I'd say php, and echo the rest out. Or html, and
include the php, css and js.



 The other solution is
> implement output buffer using ob* functions.
>
> Regards,
> Tommy
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Re: [PHP] Re: Delaying $(document).ready() in jQuery until php script finish

[David Hutto]

Although, right now, if I were going to be using all of those
languages in unison(and I am), then I'd go with C, and spit them out
to the browser for lower level control, as well as, to remain familiar
with some of the main languages being used currently.

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Re: [PHP] $GLOBALS example script on php.net

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Ashim Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>> I'll remove it.
>>
>
>  How does one remove user notes from  php.net ?
>

I'd guest they had been granted access to the php.net page editor, but
I may be wrong. Not that that site hasn't been scraped by other sites
and added to their content, or been catalogued by google cache or
alexis, etc.


 Thank you,
> Ashim
>



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Re: [PHP] Re: Help! Made a boo-boo encrypting credit cards

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Maybe I missed something here, but aren't the cc's held by the
merchant account provider, and just an id by you to recharge(recurring
or once), which can be disputed. I ask because it's been a while since
I had to look at this. So let the OP's question take precedence, and
mine secondary if necessary, if not then I'l move it to another post.

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Re: [PHP] very quick Regex query

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On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:28 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Alexis  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know not strictly a PHP question, but was just wondering if someone can
>> tell me the regex format for something please.
>>
>> I need to replace
>> ..
>> with
>> 
>
> A good text editor should have find .. and replace with  

> under the search menu.

My bad, that was for editing,.
>
>> That is six periods replaced by eight hyphens.
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Alexis
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Re: [PHP] very quick Regex query

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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Alexis  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know not strictly a PHP question, but was just wondering if someone can
> tell me the regex format for something please.
>
> I need to replace
> ..
> with
> 

A good text editor should have find .. and replace with  
under the search menu.

> That is six periods replaced by eight hyphens.
>
> Many thanks
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Re: [PHP] New to list and to PHP

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On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, David Robley  wrote:
> Daniel Brown wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 14:03, Pete Woodhead 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi I'm Pete Woodhead.  I'm new to the list and to PHP.  To be honest I
>>> very new to code writing.
>>> Thought this would be a good way to learn good habits as well as good
>>> code writing.
>>> Looking forward to learning and participating.
>>
>>     Fantastic.  As the new guy, you're expected to sweep the floors
>> here each Tuesday and Saturday evening.  Lesson one: buy a broom.
>>
> A shovel might also be useful - Dan forgot to mention the stables...
>
>
>
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Re: [PHP] errors after upgrade vom 5.2.10 to 5.3.0 howto solve or hide?

[David Hutto]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:41 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
> Only those who live in glass houses, should hide their errors.
>


if that makes sense.
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Re: [PHP] errors after upgrade vom 5.2.10 to 5.3.0 howto solve or hide?

[David Hutto]

Only those who live in glass houses, should hide their errors.

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Re: [PHP] errors after upgrade vom 5.2.10 to 5.3.0 howto solve or hide?

[David Hutto]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Daniel P. Brown
 wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:15, Richard Quadling  wrote:
>> On 16 February 2011 11:25, Andre Polykanine  wrote:
>>> Hello Fotoo,
>>>
>>>           >> error_reporting(0);
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> You consider shoving your head in the sand a REALISTIC option?
>
>    Well, at the least, it would shut the errors up in the meantime,
> pending an actual resolution.  However, the use of short_open_tags may
> completely defeat the intended purpose.
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What was the intended purpose again?

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Re: [PHP] Rate my (really) simple template class

[David Hutto]

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Brian Waters  wrote:
> So I decided to write a template class in order to get myself going on
> learning PHP. Of course I wrote the simplest thing possible:
>
> class Template
> {
>        protected $template;
>        protected $vars;
>
>        public function __construct($template)
>        {
>                $this->template = $template;
>        }
>
>        public function __set($name, $value)
>        {
>                $this->vars[$name] = $value;
>        }
>
>        public function __get($name)
>        {
>                return $this->vars[$name];
>        }
>
>        public function __toString()
>        {
>                ob_start();
>                eval('?>' . $this->template);
>                return ob_get_clean();
>        }
> }
>
> Which you can use, quite simply like this:
>
> $tpl = new Template(file_get_contents('index.tpl.php'));
>
> $tpl->title = 'Here\'s the title';
> $tpl->text = 'Blah blah blah...';
>
> echo $tpl;
>
> I have a few questions though.
>
> - First, I'm storing the template as an actual string, instead of just
> a path to a template file, which means I'm using eval() instead of
> require() in my __toString(). My thinking was that this would avoid
> reading the template file twice in the case that __toString() gets
> called multiple times. But will PHP handle this automagically if I do
> in fact decide to store a path to a file, and call require() instead?
>
> - Secondly, I noticed that in the constructor, it's not necessary to
> initialize $vars to an empty array, and I haven't done so. I guess PHP
> automatically initializes it the first time I set one of its elements
> to a value. Is this okay, or is there a better way in the name of best
> practices?
>
> - Finally, I'd like to be able to limit what things can be accessed
> from the scope of the template file. As it stands, if you have a
> function named blowUpTheComputer() or a gobal variable called
> $dontTouchThis, a template author can easily cause trouble. They can
> also access any methods and properties of the Template class. How
> would you go about restricting this?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> - BW
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Usually template comes after you've mastered the language, and know
what to base the initial template on. So know what you're templating
first. It's like trying to design a debugger for a language you don't
know how to debug. Learn first, and debug,, template later, once you
know what you're templating.


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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Tolas Anon  wrote:
> The one thing that strikes me as odd, before i go, is that i saw no
> actual HTTP-KEEPALIVE traffic flowing... I might have missed it, but i
> don't think so..
>

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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Tolas Anon  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Steve Staples  wrote:
>> i've been sorta reading this (as I am sure most maybe stopped after the
>> 4th consecutive post)...
>
> yea, i feel i gotta be complete so as to not waste the time of people
> who do wanna help.

Personally, I feel that if you want to have a conversation that
pertains to the usefulness of the language, and therefore promote it's
'consumer' benefits, and branding, it's a necessity to relate it to
the language, and solve the OP's problem programatically utilizing the
language itself.

>
>> but what I am wondering is...
>>
>> why can't you just write the output of the what you're doing to a file,
>> or the db, and then query along the way or when you need/want some
>> information on it??   Maybe i just haven't quite figured out, or got the
>> gist of what you are trying to accomplish...
>
> That's exactly what i'm doing.
> I need curl_exec() to absorb the response to requests that take over
> 1hr to complete, because i want to be able to run different parts of
> the media import process on different servers.
>
>> it also seems to me, that this really isn't a PHP specific issue, so all
>> the posts that you're doing, really doesn't pertain to the PHP mailing
>> list, so (and sorry to say this) maybe stop posting all the incremental
>> updates you're doing, and when there is a major break through, or
>> someone has an idea on how to help solve your issue, update us.
>>
>> Steve.
>
> I wish to have a complete log of this bughunt somewhere online, one of
> the many websites with the php mailing list content will do nicely.
>
> I suppose i could've chosen to subscribe to the libcurl mailinglist,
> but this seemed a good place because i thought to find many people
> that use libcurl in different ways here.
> And at the start it could've been the php-cli, or the apache, or the
> lib-curl, i just didn't know.
>
> Even though lib-curl atm looks the more likely suspect, i'll continue
> this log here.
>
> If you don't like it, don't read it.
> With a decent mail reader it is shoved under 1 header anyways.
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Re: [PHP] Secure monetary transactions

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Bob McConnell  wrote:
> From: Paul M Foster
>
>> I'm certain people on this list have set up this type of system for
>> customers. So I have some questions:
>>
>> 1) Does the usual online store software (osCommerce or whatever)
> include
>> "secure" pages for acceptance of credit cards? I know they have the
>> capability to pass this info securely off to places like authorize.net
>> for processing.
>>
>> 2) Assuming a customer website, probably hosted in a shared hosting
>> environment, with appropriate ecommerce store software, how does one
>> deal with PCI compliance? I mean, the customer would have no control
>> over the data center where the site is hosted. Moreover, they would
>> probably have little control over the updating of insecure software,
> as
>> demanded by PCI. They likely don't have the facilities to do the type
> of
>> penetration testing PCI wants. So how could they (or how do you) deal
>> with the potentially hundreds of questions the PCI questionnaire asks
>> about all this stuff? How do you, as a programmer doing this for a
>> customer, handle this?
>
> 1) No.
>
> 2) PCI compliance is neither simple nor cheap. If you have not done it
> before, hire a consultant that has and have them train you. You will
> also need annual refresher courses and a good auditor to validate your
> site every month.
>
> You will need to change data centers, as you need one that is PCI
> compliant for the pages that will handle protected information. There
> are requirements for physical security of those servers as well as the
> software that runs on them. You also have a choice of maintaining your
> own servers or finding a managed hosting service that will maintain them
> for you.
>
> One of the requirements is that you must maintain separate servers for
> development and testing. You also need to establish a formal
> development, test and deployment process. The developers are not allowed
> to have any access to the production servers. We have four sets,
> development, QA test, User Acceptance Test and production. The latter
> two are exposed to the Internet, while the first two are internal only.
>
> We have several sites that are now PCI compliant. It took us eight
> months after the decision to get the first one online and certified.
> Most of that was training and waiting for the audits and certification,
> as we nearly passed the initial validation on the first try. But we had
> to change hosting providers twice to find one that we were comfortable
> with.
>
> After that is all said and done, keep in mind that the primary purpose
> of the PCI requirements is to mitigate the financial liability of the
> credit card issuers. If anything goes wrong at your end that exposes
> privileged data, you will be financially responsible for the damages. So
> make sure you go above and beyond those requirements to protect
> yourself.
>
> Bob McConnell

1. The client is responsible for the procurement of the hardware, and
software they want used.

2. Programmers are to live in a secure environment where reliable
technologies are introduced in order for them to develop with.


3. The client is always right, so they're always to blame as well,
according to their own procured wisdom.

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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Tolas Anon  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Ashley Sheridan 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 13:24 +0100, Tolas Anon wrote:
>>
>> > Hi..
>> >
>> > For a set of media import routines, i'm using a
>> > javascript->php_on_apache->windows.bat->php_cli->curl->php_script
>> invocation
>> > method.
>> > It seems longwinded, but it's designed to have different parts of the
>> import
>> > process run on different servers.
>> >
>> > I'm stuck at getting curl_exec() to return the data of the final
>> php_script
>> > that does the importing.
>> > The script itself runs fine, and i've recorded good details that
>> curl_exec()
>> > is supposed to catch with file_put_contents("/some/debug.txt",
>> > json_encode($returnArray)), and from those debug-printouts it's just a
>> few
>> > tiny steps towards a cascade of "return" statements, followed by a
>> > echo(json_encode($returnArray)) and a normal end to the php_script at the
>> > end of the call chain.
>> >
>> > However, curl_exec() seems to hang completely. I've added over a dozen
>> > "debuginfo -> file on server" statements, and the one that should fire
>> > straight after curl_exec() does not fire.
>> >
>> > It does this only with large (1.8gb) video files, a smaller (60mb) video
>> > file doesn't produce this problem and the entire import routines work
>> fine
>> > then.
>> >
>> > I'd very much appreciate any tips you might have for me.
>>
>>
>> Let me see if I've got this right.
>>
>> The windows.bat is processing the media file somehow, then calling a
>> php_cli script which makes a cURL call to another web-based PHP script?
>> Is this right? The final script I assume is getting sent some info from
>> the cURL call and is using it somehow (in a DB maybe?) before some sort
>> of message back to your curl call. What is the code then doing with it
>> after that?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ash
>> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
> oops, i missed a step (php_daemon_script) in the chain of calls;
>
> it's : javascript -> php_on_apache -> windows.bat -> php_cli ->
> php_daemon_script -> curl_exec -> php_script
>
> followed by calls-until-finished from javascript that read the status of
> php_script via json files written to the server and thus display the status
> to the end-user..

1: java event
2:java event calls a php function to apache.
3: which calls a window.bat
4: calls a php command line
5. calls a php daemon, which is a 'waiting server process', listening
on on a port.
6. you execute a command line statement
7. and it's for a php script to return something

>
> the windows.bat just starts up cli-php with admin privileges, which executes
> the php_daemon_script, which uses repetitive curl calls to the import-script
> ("php_script" at the end of my chain) that does all the work for a single
> item in the total upload/import queue;


 it does video conversion with
> exec(/path/to/ffmpeg), photo conversion with imagemagick, and updates the db
> with the php adodb library.
> php_script at the end of it's work returns a simple and short status array
> (json_encode()d) to the php_daemon_script via curl_exec, that dictates if
> the php_daemon_script should continue calling the (import) php_script more
> times.
>
> it's curl_exec that hangs/freezes, both with using CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER=1,
> or capturing output with ob_start() and ob_get_clean(). i've gathered that
> much from my custom debug logs.
>

What do you have at the beginning, and what do you want at the end of
this process. Break it down into simple steps. And then not only can
any php programmer help you, but any computer scientist can help you
utilize the control flow logic.


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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Ashley Sheridan 
wrote:

>  On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 07:59 -0500, David Hutto wrote:
>
> > it's : javascript -> php_on_apache -> windows.bat -> php_cli ->
> > php_daemon_script -> curl_exec -> php_script
> >
> > followed by calls-until-finished from javascript that read the status of
> > php_script via json files written to the server and thus display the
> status
> > to the end-user..
>
> 1: java event
> 2:java event calls a php function to apache.
>
>
> Java != Javascript
>
>
Honestly, I've never used java enough to know the difference from the
html/css/javascript/php mentality to notice there was a difference(Not that
I don't now the difference, just misuse the term).



>
>   Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>
>

Re: [PHP] Paging and permissions

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Arno Kuhl  wrote:
> I'm hoping some clever php gurus have been here before and are willing to
> share some ideas.
>
> I have a site where articles are assigned to categories in containers. An
> article can be assigned to only one category per container, but one or more
> containers. Access permissions can be set per article, per category and/or
> per container, for one or more users and/or user groups. If an article is
> assigned to 10 categories and only one of those has a permission denying
> access, then the article can't be accessed even if browsing through one of
> the other 9 categories. Currently everything works fine, with article titles
> showing when browsing through category or search result lists, and a message
> is displayed when the article is clicked if it cannot be viewed because of a
> permission.
>
> Now there's a requirement to not display the article title in category lists
> and search results if it cannot be viewed. I'm stuck with how to determine
> the number of results for paging at the start of the list or search. The
> site is quite large (20,000+ articles and growing) so reading the entire
> result set and sifting through it with permission rules for each request is
> not an option. But it might be an option if done once at the start of each
> search or list request, and then use that temporary modified result set for
> subsequent requests on the same set. I thought of saving the set to a
> temporary db table or file (not sure about overhead of
> serializing/unserializing large arrays). A sizing exercise based on the
> recordset returned for searches and lists shows a max of about 150MB for
> 20,000 articles and 380MB for 50,000 articles that needs to be saved
> temporarily per search or list request - in the vast majority of cases the
> set will be *much* smaller but it needs to cope with the worst case, and
> still do so a year down the line.
>
> All this extra work because I can't simply get an accurate number of results
> for paging, because of permissions!
>
> So my questions are:
> 1. Which is better (performance) for this situation: file or db?

have you timed it yourself?

> 2. How do I prepare a potentially very large data set for file or fast
> writing to a new table (ie I obviously don't want to write it record by
> record)

Even the db's cant insert as fast as the function is presented to it,
and it can respond, so again...timeit

> 3. Are there any other alternatives worth looking at?

This is a question for the experienced php developers. But the above
is applicable.

>
> TIA
>
> Cheers
> Arno
>



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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Ashley Sheridan
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 13:24 +0100, Tolas Anon wrote:
>
>> Hi..
>>
>> For a set of media import routines, i'm using a
>> javascript->php_on_apache->windows.bat->php_cli->curl->php_script invocation
>> method.
>> It seems longwinded, but it's designed to have different parts of the import
>> process run on different servers.
>>
>> I'm stuck at getting curl_exec() to return the data of the final php_script
>> that does the importing.
>> The script itself runs fine, and i've recorded good details that curl_exec()
>> is supposed to catch with file_put_contents("/some/debug.txt",
>> json_encode($returnArray)), and from those debug-printouts it's just a few
>> tiny steps towards a cascade of "return" statements, followed by a
>> echo(json_encode($returnArray)) and a normal end to the php_script at the
>> end of the call chain.
>>
>> However, curl_exec() seems to hang completely. I've added over a dozen
>> "debuginfo -> file on server" statements, and the one that should fire
>> straight after curl_exec() does not fire.
>>
>> It does this only with large (1.8gb) video files, a smaller (60mb) video
>> file doesn't produce this problem and the entire import routines work fine
>> then.
>>
>> I'd very much appreciate any tips you might have for me.
>
>
> Let me see if I've got this right.
>
> The windows.bat is processing the media file somehow, then calling a
> php_cli script which makes a cURL call to another web-based PHP script?
> Is this right? The final script I assume is getting sent some info from
> the cURL call and is using it somehow (in a DB maybe?) before some sort
> of message back to your curl call. What is the code then doing with it
> after that?

Other than placing it in the main php file(index.php), at the position
you called it at, and at which it sits in precedence at? Because at
the end, it is a part of the page being returned to the user.

>
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>
>



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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:32 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Tolas Anon  wrote:
>> Hi..
>>
>> For a set of media import routines, i'm using a
>> javascript->php_on_apache->windows.bat->php_cli->curl->php_script invocation
>> method.
>> It seems longwinded, but it's designed to have different parts of the import
>> process run on different servers.
>>
>> I'm stuck at getting curl_exec() to return the data of the final php_script
>> that does the importing.
>
>
> this is the part that hits my non professionals nerve.you want
> something to return data like a 'db' that does the 'final' importing'.
> Importing is more of python from my exp,

In php, t should be include, and again it should be initially.

and it is never done at the
> end, but at the beginning, so please explain why it's last that this
> is done.
>



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Re: [PHP] curl_exec won't return (any data)

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Tolas Anon  wrote:
> Hi..
>
> For a set of media import routines, i'm using a
> javascript->php_on_apache->windows.bat->php_cli->curl->php_script invocation
> method.
> It seems longwinded, but it's designed to have different parts of the import
> process run on different servers.
>
> I'm stuck at getting curl_exec() to return the data of the final php_script
> that does the importing.


this is the part that hits my non professionals nerve.you want
something to return data like a 'db' that does the 'final' importing'.
Importing is more of python from my exp, and it is never done at the
end, but at the beginning, so please explain why it's last that this
is done.

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Re: [PHP] Bilingual strtotime()

[David Hutto]

Just check for the initial difference you see in the formats of either.

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Re: [PHP] Bilingual strtotime()

[David Hutto]

Either form should be day/month/year/time, or somewhere in that order.
>From what i know, it shouldn't change much no matter the language.

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Re: [PHP] nl2br problem

[David Hutto]

If project names are indications of programmer's Freudian insights,
then what is the FCKEditor?

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Re: [PHP] Pulling from Multiple Databases

[David Hutto]

> Do you even NEED a footer with nothing but inane comments in it?
>

It's probably an overcompensation for a small penis.

> Alexis
> On 01/02/11 11:54, David Hutto wrote:
>> I'd pass the db's to a threaded function that processes each db's info
>> in an algorithmic order.
>>
>> -- The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
>> me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
>> appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order. Furthermore, if you
>> could be a scientific celebrity, would you want einstein sitting around
>> with you on saturday morning, while you're sitting in your undies,
>> watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would Einstein want you to violate
>> his Underdog time? Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his
>> underware? Thinking about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and
>> his Fruit of the Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his
>> inner brilliant white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the
>> orangy, delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
>> fingertips? But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose
>> intertwined within the equation. However, I digress, momentarily. But
>> Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than personal
>> freedom. An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal
>> product. Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than
>> interplanetary static cling?
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me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
fingertips?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
personal freedom.

An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.

Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling?

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Re: [PHP] Pulling from Multiple Databases

[David Hutto]

I'd pass the db's to a threaded function that processes each db's info
in an algorithmic order.

-- 
The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
fingertips?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
personal freedom.

An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.

Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling?

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Re: [PHP] RE: Organisational question: surely someone has implemented many Boolean values (tags) and a solution exist

[David Hutto]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Jerry Schwartz  wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Dotan Cohen [mailto:dotanco...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:25 AM
>>To: Jerry Schwartz
>>Cc: mysql.; php-general.
>>Subject: Re: Organisational question: surely someone has implemented many
>>Boolean values (tags) and a solution exist
>>
>>
>>> As for setting up a hierarchy, that's trickier. One way to handle that is
>>> to
>>> work like libraries do: 10 is "fiction", 10.05 is "crime novels", 10.05.07
>>> is
>>> "British authors", and so forth. Your `tags` table then looks like
>>>
>>
>>Thanks. I prefer the "parent tag" field, though, I feel that it is
>>more flexible.
>>
>>
> [JS] I disagree. The method I proposed can be extended to any depth, and any
> leaf or branch can be retrieved with a single query.

No one argues with method of implementation(not that i explored the
individual ideas), but with that available, you can hierarchy the
concept of your db conceptualization.


>
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>
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>>http://gibberish.co.il
>>http://what-is-what.com
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The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
fingertips?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
personal freedom.

An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.

Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling?

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Re: [PHP] Organisational question: surely someone has implemented many Boolean values (tags) and a solution exist

[David Hutto]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 21:24, David Hutto  wrote:
>>> Is this a troll? Am I about to be baited?
>>
>> Baited to deploy what is designed to the consumer's specification?
>> Surely. From what is wanted to what is needed. Troll on that.
>
> Actually, I'm the customer! But assuming that a customer exists, that
> implies compensation, and therefore fair bait.
Then that's different altogether. you get to decide what information
is displayed, and what information is 'sensed', and on what platform.

What do you want to sense and what do you want to display(not to say
I'm an expert, but I like to think in CS)?

>
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-- 
The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
fingertips?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
personal freedom.

An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.

Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling?

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Re: [PHP] Organisational question: surely someone has implemented many Boolean values (tags) and a solution exist

[David Hutto]

> Is this a troll? Am I about to be baited?

Baited to deploy what is designed to the consumer's specification?
Surely. From what is wanted to what is needed. Troll on that.
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://gibberish.co.il
> http://what-is-what.com
>



-- 
The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
fingertips?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
personal freedom.

An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.

Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling?

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Re: [PHP] Organisational question: surely someone has implemented many Boolean values (tags) and a solution exist

[David Hutto]

Pseudo = Design Algorithm
Design Algorithm = Actual Code
Actual Code = Alterable db tables
Alterable db tables = manipulated data through the app interface with data

-- 
The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
fingertips?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
personal freedom.

An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.

Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static cling?

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Re: [PHP] email address syntax checker

[David Hutto]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Donovan Brooke  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm waddling my way through database interaction and thought someone on the
> list may already have a simple email checker that they'd like to share...
>
> you know, looking for the @ char and dots etc..
>
> I did a quick search of the archives and found a couple elaborate things..
> but
> I'm looking for something simple.

Simple is an irrelevant term, you'd have to elaborate on your current
experience.

 This job will have trusted users and
> the checker is more to help them catch mistakes when registering.
>
> Thanks!,
> Donovan
>
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The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.

Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?

Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
about the relativity between his cotton nardsac, and his Fruit of the
Looms?

But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
within the equation.

However, I digress, momentarily.

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Re: [PHP] switch case madness

[David Hutto]

.
>>
>>    I do see from where it is you're coming, though, Josh --- once
>> you've gotten the fundamentals, a lot of times it's easier - sometimes
>> even a better idea - to use an existing, mature solution.  What helps
>> you to determine its value from a code standpoint?  Your existing
>> experience.
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>
> You are correct, and it is a shame to see many developers fall into the copy 
> / paste realm, especially with a language like PHP where such snippets are 
> often found easily but of dubious quality. Rolling your own is a great way to 
> understand how things work (or should work) internally, as well as giving you 
> valuable practice. I don't mean to discredit is. As I mentioned, more often 
> then not I'm a fan of it.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Josh
> 
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> http://joshuakehn.com
>
>

I find that at first, in any language, playing with the snippets
through a form of stimuli and response(I move this, this happens, or
doesn;t), helps to reinforce what I'm learning.

But after understanding the snippet, I don't find that reapplying it
later subverts the concept of being a 'real coder', because in the end
you want to move to a more efficient means of coding, which is, if I'm
not mistaken, where these larger frameworks come from-snippets that
are reusable(all the way down to a login system snippet).



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Re: [PHP] which php file is sending emails?

[David Hutto]

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Mujtaba Arshad  wrote:
> Nilesh's note to self: don't sound condescending when suggesting untested


Now define 'self'. Is it a remembrance(i.e. a string of molecular
structures), or a google(google 'Rich formatting' says google isn't
actually a word, and gives the squiggly red underlining for it's own
name) search through the archives?

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Re: [PHP] Re: email list 101

[David Hutto]

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Peter Lind  wrote:
> On 16 January 2011 16:35, Michelle Konzack
>  wrote:
>> Hello Kirk Bailey,
>>
>> Am 2011-01-16 10:09:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>>> So, in php, I want a program to handle sending out a mail list. All
>>> this is going to do is be a filter to exclude non subscribers, and
>>> send a copy to every person in the subscriber file. This is pretty
>>> simple in python, but this is not my mother tounge we speak here, so
>>> let's talk in php instead.
>>>
>>> If the submission does not come from a member, the script simply
>>> aborts. So the script should read the subscriber file, and if the
>>> source From: does not appear there, DIE. If it is there, walk the
>>> array and send a copy there, then end.
>>>
>>> Now how to do this in php? Is there an off the shelf solution?
>>
>> Maybe using RTFW 
>
> Considering that you've used the PHP list for some very inane
> questions yourself, perhaps you should keep the tone lighter and avoid
> flaming people? Just a thought.

But  hypocrisy is so fun though.

>
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> Peter
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Re: [PHP] which php file is sending emails?

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan  wrote:
> On 01/16/2011 12:45 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 13:51, Nilesh Govindarajan
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> hahaha, that command wasn't broken. It works on Linux. But certain
>>> commands
>>> have to be changed to work on *BSD.
>>>
>>> For example, chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o= directory -R will work on linux, but
>>> will
>>> not on FreeBSD. It has to be changed to chmod -R u=rwx,g=rwx,o=
>>> directory.
>>
>>     Oh, I get it.  So you deliberately give bad commands to people to
>> teach them differences.  I mean, you know the difference, and the OP
>> did mention that he's using FreeBSD, so that must be the only
>> explanation, right?
>>
>>     And yes, I know it works on Linux.  I'm just messing with you.  ;-P
>>
>
> Okay now this is turning into a war :D We're deviating from the original
> topic.
> Anyways, I'm not a regular *BSD user :D
> So some commands may be broken :D :D
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Re: [PHP] Array Symbol Suggestion

[David Hutto]

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM, David Harkness
 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>
>> The Hungarian Notation [1] was what I was taught all those years ago
>> when I learnt standard C programming.
>
>
> I learned it early on as well, and I never really liked it. Instead of
> $iFish I would prefer a more descriptive name such as $fishCount.


What info did you get on hook for the client?



Sure, it's
> a little longer to type, but it tells you what that number measures. In
> today's world of objects and loosely-typed languages, a descriptive variable
> name can be more important than a symbol or notation to hint at the type.
>
> As for arrays, I always name the variable plural. And if it maps keys to
> values instead of holding a list of items, I will typically name it
> $foosByBar, e.g. $customersById. From that name I *know* it's array
> already--no need for a prefix or special symbol.
>
> $oPlayer, $sName, $iWidth...what's the point? The context in which the
> variable is used can provide more meaning. If you stick to short
> functions/methods that do one specific thing, you'll be able to tell that
> $player is an object, $name is a string, and $width is an integer.
>
> I highly recommend the book Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile
> Software Craftsmanship by Robert C. Martin. [1] It has a lot of great advice
> on keeping your code easy to understand, test, and maintain.
>
> David
>
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/Clean-Code-Handbook-Software-Craftsmanship/dp/0132350882
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Re: [PHP] curl & rtmp

[David Hutto]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Tontonq Tontonq  wrote:
> does cUrl supports rtmp protocol? if so is there any example?

These are obvious by searching for the terms, which seem to be quite
specific to have not found an answer in the search engines.

do we need
> enable different library? so if not can we save rtmp by curl? if not is
> there any other rtmp downloader that u know ?

You seem to know enough to have answered this by yourself, almost in
your own questions.

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Re: [PHP] Command line PHP

[David Hutto]

Like i said, my introduction to php is browser,and desktop app is
python, but I will try php in the command line out.

1) set a variable
2) call an external program with the variable as an argument

this is something I recognize very well:)

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Re: [PHP] Command line PHP

[David Hutto]

I could go yoda, but suffice it to say, "From The Language Speaks The
Soul Of The Man's Design".

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Re: [PHP] Command line PHP

[David Hutto]

There have been a lot of responses, but this might be the best place to start:

http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=command+line+PHP+application.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


Which yielded this as the first result:


http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.php

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Re: [PHP] Newbie Question

[David Hutto]

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:33 PM, tedd  wrote:
> At 2:16 AM -0500 1/7/11, Daniel Brown wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:09, Bill Guion  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Fogging must be a REAL OLD Fashioned term. Please clarify.
>>
>>    It was originally written before man invented the letter 'L', Bill.
>
> No, it was the predecessor to water-boarding.

Only in cultural america. In other countries, it's still used as a
public display of punishment and humiliation. And humiliation is
beneficial to no one. And spankings never did me any good anyways:)


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Re: [PHP] Command line PHP

[David Hutto]

I'm with some of the others above on using Python. Writing a command
line app is about as simple as:

import subprocess
word = 'hello'
self.espeak = subprocess.Popen(['espeak', word], stdout =
subprocess.PIPE).communicate()[0]

I think of PHP as more browser, than desktop app/webapp.

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Re: [PHP] Printing PDF

[David Hutto]

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Steve Staples  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 17:36 +, Richard Quadling wrote:
>> On 29 December 2010 17:24, Steve Staples  wrote:
>> > I can create the PDF's no problem, it is just how to send the created
>> > pdf to the printer to print (it is a label printer, printing 3x5 labels)
>>
>> What type of printer? Some printers require their own language and
>> won't have any sort of PS, PCL, Esc/2 or GDI support.
>>
>> I've worked with industrial printers which take strings of plain text
>> to do page layout/description. You load template layouts into the
>> printer and can use them.
>>
>> Completely useless under normal circumstances.
>>
>> If the printer is something like an Epson TM-L90 (thermal label
>> printer with barcode support), then sending it a PDF isn't possible as
>> it doesn't have PS support. It is much easier to send it the string of
>> codes to have the barcode generated within the label.
>>
>> On Windows, the drivers deal with all of this stuff. I've no idea on Unix.
>>
>> The exact model of the printer would help.
>
> I am currently unaware of the printer model, I am mostly working at
> building a quote for them.

Welcome to being a software developer.

 I suppose I should get the make/models of
> what they are going to be using... and hope to hell that they are
> compatible.  I do know that the printer has a custom formatted label, so
> I hope that there is some drivers or wahtever availble to linux that i
> can send the PDF to it to print... looks like this will be some trial
> and error (err... research and development?).   The printing is the only
> real trivial part of the whole thing.
>.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Do you trim() usernames and passwords?

[David Hutto]

It would seem that with in the streaming of information that moves
across networks, that such things as virus detection within these
networks(meaning governmental oversite of info...post 9/11), which, if
I'm not mistaken is regexing for matching strings of definitions, are
checked for as they stream through systems, leaving mainly encrypted
versions for release.

That way, even if they don't stop it, and watch it propagate(to see
what it does), then they still know you weren't a part of it.

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Re: [PHP] Re: Do you trim() usernames and passwords?

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Paul M Foster  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:28:12PM -0500, Joshua Kehn wrote:
>
>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Paul M Foster wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 03:11:56PM -0500, Joshua Kehn wrote:
>> >
>> >> Specifically:
>> >>
>>  Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> > I seem to have an issue with users who copy-paste their usernames and
>> > passwords coping and pasting leading and trailing space characters.
>> >>
>> >> Users should not be copy-pasting passwords or usernames. Do not 
>> >> compromise a system to cater to bad [stupid, ignorant, you pick] users. 
>> >> If this is an issue then educate the users.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Wrong. I use a program called pwgen to generate passwords for me, which
>> > I cannot remember. I use another program I built to store them in an
>> > encrypted file. When I have to supply a password which I've forgotten
>> > (as usual), I fire up my password "vault", find the password, and paste
>> > it wherever it's needed. Users would be wise to follow a scheme like
>> > this, rather than using their dog's name or somesuch as their passwords.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
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>> > http://noferblatz.com
>> >
>>
>> What is "wrong?" That users should not be copy-pasting passwords or don't 
>> compromise the system?
>>
>> I agree that users should not use weak passwords, but not everyone goes 
>> everywhere with a vault. I am more then capable of memorizing 20 or so 16-32 
>> character full set passwords.
>>
>
> And so you assume everyone can do that? I can remember maybe 5 of the
> passwords I regularly need. (I rarely repeat passwords for different
> sites.) In addition, some passwords have been *assigned* to me and
> cannot readily be changed (and are usually difficult to remember). Many
> of the rest I so seldom use that it would be silly to try to remember
> them. Particularly when I do have a password-locked file I can use to
> record them for me.
>
> Under the circumstances I described, I have yet to hear in what way
> copying and pasting passwords compromises security of anything by
> itself. Please enlighten me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but If you initially type the username and
password into a file, and you have, in my paranoid scenario, a
keylogger you don't know about, it get's logged, but also, i assume it
would get logged if you typed it in as well, on the site, or that
someone could lift the password if given the authority on your system,
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Re: [PHP] Problem with Include

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Daniel P. Brown
>  wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 02:48, Ravi Gehlot  wrote:
>>> My point is that you tried to take code from one page and put it all
>>> "organized" in another page and the include that page of includes back into
>>> the pages that you want it to feed off from. If stuff works the way that it
>>> does then there a reason for it to have been done that way.
>>
>>    So you think no one should ever do that because it's only making
>> it look pretty?  Ever hear of maintainability?
>>
>>> That's why documenting code is so important. 99% doesn't do it (including 
>>> me).
>>
>>    Please cite your source.
>
>
> Personally, I'd even have to admit mine was(and is) less than 99% compatible
> with what I'd like it to be.
>
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Re: [PHP] Problem with Include

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Daniel P. Brown
 wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 02:48, Ravi Gehlot  wrote:
>> My point is that you tried to take code from one page and put it all
>> "organized" in another page and the include that page of includes back into
>> the pages that you want it to feed off from. If stuff works the way that it
>> does then there a reason for it to have been done that way.
>
>    So you think no one should ever do that because it's only making
> it look pretty?  Ever hear of maintainability?
>
>> That's why documenting code is so important. 99% doesn't do it (including 
>> me).
>
>    Please cite your source.


Personally, I'd even have to admit mine was less than 99% compatible
with what I'd like it to be.

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Re: [PHP] Problem with Include

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Ravi Gehlot  wrote:
> My point is that you tried to

Not me personally.

 take code from one page and put it all
> "organized" in another page and the include that page of includes back into
> the pages that you want it to feed off from. If stuff works the way that it
> does then there a reason for it to have been done that way.

By the original designer, but maybe not the OP.

That's why
> documenting code is so important. 99% doesn't do it (including me).
>

For you, others, and for self, it's more than important, it can be
essential, especially if you're trying to keep up with multiple
languages, OS's, and platforms.


> Ravi.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:35 AM, David Hutto  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Ravi Gehlot  wrote:
>> > Why mess with something that is already working? If you are trying to
>> > make
>> > it pretty then you are not solving a problem. You are creating one.
>>
>>
>> Define working. I've had programs 'work', but more experienced would
>> say it's flawed in some respect. Does it perform the immediate task?
>>
>> Now define pretty. Is it aesthetically pleasing to you, or to someone
>> else with less, or maybe more experience.
>>
>> By defining the two above, you then define whether it's a problem. To
>> you, or to them, or to the original designer?
>>
>> >
>> > Ravi.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Daniel P. Brown
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 02:49, Simcha Younger 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Since it is being included by PHP, and not served by Apache, the
>> >> extension is not important.
>> >>
>> >>     Correct, but keep in mind that it will likely be served as plain
>> >> text if accessed directly, if the web server is not properly
>> >> configured (which, by default, it isn't).
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Re: [PHP] Problem with Include

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Ravi Gehlot  wrote:
> Why mess with something that is already working? If you are trying to make
> it pretty then you are not solving a problem. You are creating one.


Define working. I've had programs 'work', but more experienced would
say it's flawed in some respect. Does it perform the immediate task?

Now define pretty. Is it aesthetically pleasing to you, or to someone
else with less, or maybe more experience.

By defining the two above, you then define whether it's a problem. To
you, or to them, or to the original designer?

>
> Ravi.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Daniel P. Brown
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 02:49, Simcha Younger  wrote:
>> >
>> > Since it is being included by PHP, and not served by Apache, the
>> extension is not important.
>>
>>     Correct, but keep in mind that it will likely be served as plain
>> text if accessed directly, if the web server is not properly
>> configured (which, by default, it isn't).
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Re: [PHP] Problems w/ goto

[David Hutto]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, David Harkness
 wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:05 AM, la...@garfieldtech.com <
> la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
>
>> What PHP has implemented is "named break statements", as I understand it.
>>
>
> Not exactly. You can jump to arbitrary (labeled) lines within the same
> context (method/function), but you cannot enter loop constructs--only exit
> them. While the last bit implies they are only "named break statements," you
> can use them outside of loops as a normal goto statement.
>
>    firingSequence:
>        if (!acquireTarget())
>            goto done;
>        fireMainCannon();
>        fireMissiles();
>        if (enemiesInView()):
>            goto firingSequence;
>    done:
>
> The above implements a convoluted do...while loop using goto. Recommended?

Is the problem with using the goto convolutedness(as I've seen other
senior programmers in other languages when explaining, or 'showing
off'), or is their an actual functional problem with it? Is it just
the 'sphagetti code' aspect that it can lead to, meaning confusing
another programmer? Not to hijack from the op, or dilute the
conversation any further than I did over the weekend.

> Certainly not!
>
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[PHP] Re: [PHP-DB] Re: [PHP] Problems w/ goto

[David Hutto]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Daniel Brown  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 17:02, David Hutto  wrote:
>> or maybe it's saturday morning and i'm drunk?
>
>    This seems to be the most likely, and considering how all messages
> are permanently and independently archived and propagate throughout
> the Internet, it might be a good reason not to go nuts in sending
> unrelated and unintelligible messages of this nature in the future.

Yeah, that hindsights 20/20 ain't it?

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Re: [PHP] Problems w/ goto

[David Hutto]

check out my new sig.

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Re: [PHP] Problems w/ goto

[David Hutto]

or maybe it's saturday morning and i'm drunk?

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Re: [PHP] Problems w/ goto

[David Hutto]

You approved all of us, no matter the  peer review, when you signed up
or the list. The accumulation of knowledge,
is insurmountable when delivered as a whole, but devourable if you
need satiation of appetite.

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Re: [PHP] Problems w/ goto

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Geoffrey Bernardo Van Wyk
 wrote:
> Ethan,
>
> I tried to test your code, but I get this error next to the labels and goto
> statements:

As a 'professional' programmer, working for an entity, we deal with
these problems as we go.  As novices, we deal with it on a daily
basis. As computer scientists, we think of it as a problem already
solved, but in need of translation. Understand, buddy pal.


>
> Language feature not compatible with PHP version indicated in project
> settings
>
> I have PHP 5.3.0.
>
> Geoffrey
>
>  _
>
> From: Ethan Rosenberg [mailto:eth...@earthlink.net]
> Sent: 17 December 2010 06:39 PM
> To: php-db-lists.php.net; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Problems w/ goto
>
>
>
> Dear List -
>
> I am sending this again since it does not seem to have posted.
>
> Ethan
> +++
> Dear List -
>
> Thank you with your excellent help in the past.  Here is another puzzler
>
>
> I am trying to write a program that can have two(2) independent forms
> in one PHP file.  When I run the code below [from PHP - A Beginner's
> Guide], to which I have added a second form, it freezes.  Without the
> goto statements, it runs.  When it does run, it displays both forms
> on one Web screen. What I desire is for the first form to be
> displayed, the data entered and then the second form displayed.  In
> an actual, not test program like this one, the data in the second
> form would be dependent on the first form.
>
> What did I do wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Here is the code:
>
> 
>     "DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" lang="en">
>   
>     Project 4-4: Age Calculator
>   
>   
>     Project 4-4: Age Calculator
>      // if form not yet submitted
>     // display form
>
> $ender = 0;
> begin:
>
>         if($ender == 1)
>                 exit();
>     if (!isset($_POST['dob']))
>     {
> start1:
>
> echo "  ";
> echo "  Enter your date of birth, in mm/dd/ format: ";
> echo "  ";
> echo "      ";
> echo "  ";
> echo "  ";
>
> goto begin;
>     // if form submitted
>     // process form input
>     }
> else
>     {
> starter:
> if (isset($_POST['cat']))
>         goto purr;
>       // split date value into components
>       $dateArr = explode('/', $_POST['dob']);
>
>       // calculate timestamp corresponding to date value
>       $dateTs = strtotime($_POST['dob']);
>
>       // calculate timestamp corresponding to 'today'
>       $now = strtotime('today');
>
>       // check that the value entered is in the correct format
>       if (sizeof($dateArr) != 3) {
>         die('ERROR: Please enter a valid date of birth');
>       }
>
>       // check that the value entered is a valid date
>       if (!checkdate($dateArr[0], $dateArr[1], $dateArr[2])) {
>         die('ERROR: Please enter a valid date of birth');
>       }
>
>       // check that the date entered is earlier than 'today'
>       if ($dateTs >= $now) {
>         die('ERROR: Please enter a date of birth earlier than today');
>       }
>
>       // calculate difference between date of birth and today in days
>       // convert to years
>       // convert remaining days to months
>       // print output
>       $ageDays = floor(($now - $dateTs) / 86400);
>       $ageYears = floor($ageDays / 365);
>       $ageMonths = floor(($ageDays - ($ageYears * 365)) / 30);
>       echo "You are approximately $ageYears years and $ageMonths months
> old.";
>       goto meow;
>  }
>
> meow:
>         if (!isset($_POST['dob']))
>                 goto begin;
>     if (!isset($_POST['cat']))
>     {
>
>
> echo "  ";
> echo "  Enter your kitten's name: ";
> echo "  ";
> echo "  ";
> echo "       Kitten\" />";
> echo "    ";
>
> }
> else
> {
> purr:
>         $name_cat = $_POST['cat'];
>
>         echo "Your Kitten is $name_cat";
>         $ender = 1;
> }
> if ($ender == 0)
>         goto begin;
> first_step:
> ?>
>
>   
> 
>
> 
>
> Ethan
>
> MySQL 5.1  PHP 5  Linux [Debian (sid)]
>
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Re: [PHP] PDO: good, popular?

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In other words, in ten years from now, even the advisors you get today
will rethink their answers with 20/20/hindsight, and not think about
your ignorance of technology, but their own.

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Re: [PHP] PDO: good, popular?

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Sam Smith  wrote:
> Searching for "PHP CRUD" in hopes of learning the best way to access
> databases and to use PEAR or what I came across PDO.
>
> I want to know the communities opinion of PDO: everyone uses it or no one
> uses it or it's great or what?

In previous experience with questions such as these, you will get
several types of individual responses to usages of the software. Some
good, some bad, depending on the experience level of the commenter
with both the language and the code in question.

It's a combination of your current understanding of php and the
associated usages of other languages, and what you want to know.

Don't trust what people say, trust what feels right at the current
time of your usage of the php library available/your experience level,
and what you currently know how to use.

>From my experience with several languages, once you know the basics,
even if you do re-invent the 'wheel', so did firestone,michelin, and
goodyear, and they're not complaining. And you'll feel better for
reinventing, than using someone elses.


>
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Re: [PHP] Re: Copying an Object

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On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Gary  wrote:
> Daniel Kolbo wrote:
>
>> Say you have two classes: human and male.  Further, say male extends
>> human.  Let's say you have a human object.  Then later you want to make
>> that human object a male object.  This seems to be a pretty reasonable
>> thing to request of our objects.
>
> I don't think any human can change gender without major surgery, but I
> don't know if you just chose your example badly or whether you really
> think objects should be able to mutate into other types of object
> without some kind of special treatment.

But it would work in something like makehuman, where you start with a neuter
form and scale one way or the other for physical features. If I
remember correctly,
we're' all xx until you become xy(genetically speaking).

>
>> This type of thing would especially be
>> easy if objects of parent classes could be cast as an object of its
>> extended class.
>
> Where would the extra data come from to fill in any fields the base
> class does not have? Just think of a simple example with a Shape class,
> extended by a ColouredShape class which contains some data about the
> object's colour - if you have a Shape object it can't become a
> ColouredShape without some surgery because bits of the ColouredShape's
> anatomy are not present.
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Re: [PHP] workflow system design

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jay Blanchard  wrote:
> [snip]
> Hi, i know it is not the right place, but, does anybody know a workflow
> system development process? or methodology?
> thanks!
> [/snip]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workflow

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Re: [PHP] mysqldump

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Robert Cummings  wrote:
> On 10-08-17 03:00 PM, David Hutto wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Robert Cummings
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10-08-17 02:45 PM, Mari Masuda wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:40 AM, tedd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At 2:17 PM -0400 8/17/10, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10-08-17 02:08 PM, tedd wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi gang:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 6:11 PM -0400 8/13/10, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>>     Easiest method, from the command line on the server from which
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> want to dump the database:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         mysqldump -u user -p database_name>     outfile.sql
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Command is wrong... should be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    mysqldump -u user -p password database_name>    outfile.sql
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did catch that, but did not correct it in my post (considering it was
>>>>> a
>>>>> direct quote).
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Actually,
>>>>
>>>>        mysqldump -u user -p password database_name>    outfile.sql
>>>>
>>>> is also the incorrect command.  When providing the password in the
>>>> command, there should not be a space between the "-p" and the actual
>>>> password.  Try
>>>>
>>>>        mysqldump -u user -ppassword database_name>    outfile.sql
>>>>
>>>> and see if that gets you anywhere.
>>>
>>> That's actually funny... I never put spaces in for the user or password
>>> when
>>> using the short parameter method and had quickly tried with the space
>>> before
>>> posting
>>
>> 'Playful with passwords the hacker does not expect', says yoda
>
> I can't wait for 2050 when they release the new Star Wars super duper master
> awesome director's milk-it edition with 3 seconds of Yoda smoking a
> cigarette!

But they'll put it in a pretty 'Happy meal', with lighter included.

>
>>:)
>
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Re: [PHP] mysqldump

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:00 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Robert Cummings  wrote:
>> On 10-08-17 02:45 PM, Mari Masuda wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:40 AM, tedd wrote:
>>>
>>>> At 2:17 PM -0400 8/17/10, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10-08-17 02:08 PM, tedd wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi gang:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 6:11 PM -0400 8/13/10, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>     Easiest method, from the command line on the server from which you
>>>>>>> want to dump the database:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         mysqldump -u user -p database_name>   outfile.sql
>>>>>
>>>>> Command is wrong... should be:
>>>>>
>>>>>    mysqldump -u user -p password database_name>  outfile.sql
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did catch that, but did not correct it in my post (considering it was a
>>>> direct quote).
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>
>>> Actually,
>>>
>>>        mysqldump -u user -p password database_name>  outfile.sql
>>>
>>> is also the incorrect command.  When providing the password in the
>>> command, there should not be a space between the "-p" and the actual
>>> password.  Try
>>>
>>>        mysqldump -u user -ppassword database_name>  outfile.sql
>>>
>>> and see if that gets you anywhere.
>>
>> That's actually funny... I never put spaces in for the user or password when
>> using the short parameter method and had quickly tried with the space before
>> posting
>
> 'Playful with passwords the hacker does not expect', says yoda
>
> ... I had tried with the user though and it work so I had assumed it
>> worked for password also.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rob.
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Re: [PHP] mysqldump

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Robert Cummings  wrote:
> On 10-08-17 02:45 PM, Mari Masuda wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:40 AM, tedd wrote:
>>
>>> At 2:17 PM -0400 8/17/10, Robert Cummings wrote:

 On 10-08-17 02:08 PM, tedd wrote:
>
> Hi gang:
>
>> At 6:11 PM -0400 8/13/10, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
>>     Easiest method, from the command line on the server from which you
>> want to dump the database:
>>
>>         mysqldump -u user -p database_name>   outfile.sql

 Command is wrong... should be:

    mysqldump -u user -p password database_name>  outfile.sql
>>>
>>>
>>> I did catch that, but did not correct it in my post (considering it was a
>>> direct quote).
>>>
>>> ---
>>
>> Actually,
>>
>>        mysqldump -u user -p password database_name>  outfile.sql
>>
>> is also the incorrect command.  When providing the password in the
>> command, there should not be a space between the "-p" and the actual
>> password.  Try
>>
>>        mysqldump -u user -ppassword database_name>  outfile.sql
>>
>> and see if that gets you anywhere.
>
> That's actually funny... I never put spaces in for the user or password when
> using the short parameter method and had quickly tried with the space before
> posting

'Playful with passwords the hacker does not expect', says yoda

... I had tried with the user though and it work so I had assumed it
> worked for password also.
>
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Re: [PHP] PHP The Anthem

[David Hutto]

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:46 PM, tedd  wrote:
> At 12:33 PM -0400 8/7/10, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 09:47, tedd  wrote:
>>>
>>>  No, writing it provided me with the experience of developing a
>>> rule-based AI
>>>  solution to a real-world problem and I received a little money for my
>>
>>  > efforts. Experience and money are never a waste of time.
>>
>>    The opinions of what is gainful life experience and what is a
>> waste of time will vary greatly from one to another.
>
>
> Experience and money are never a waste of time *to me*.

but did they make money off of the video, was it branded?

If not, then it was a great promo, even without seeing it, I've 'seen' the buzz.
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Re: [PHP] [site is acting strange] - blank pages, download index.php, or works fine

[David Hutto]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:49 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Ashley Sheridan
>>  wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 13:38 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Bill Guion  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > At 6:45 PM -0600 7/29/10, Tristan wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >  Yeah like i said site works 95% of the time when navigating. PHP5.2, 
>>>> > Mysql
>>>> >> 5. The site is completely dynamic so it wouldn't work at all if that was
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> case of it not being installed right.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> so the other 5% of the time is blank pages and download index.php files.
>>>> >> In
>>>> >> Firefox when you get a blank page, if you click view source it will show
>>>> >> all
>>>> >> the code that should be there but, I can't tell if it's requesting the
>>>> >> page
>>>> >> again when you do that. It never fails 2 times in a row. A refresh will
>>>> >> always fix it. When you look in firebug there is no html so it leads me 
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> believe FF may be doing just that...going for a second request instead 
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> viewing currently opened source? In IE8 I would get something like
>>>> >>
>>>> >> diagnose problem button
>>>> >>
>>>> >> more information drop down with
>>>> >>
>>>> >> this problem can be caused by a variety of issues..this is a completely
>>>> >> typical M$ error with no valid help
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> chrome same thing with
>>>> >>
>>>> >> web page cannot be displayed
>>>> >>
>>>> >> more information etc...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:36 PM, David McGlone 
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 18:11 -0600, Tristan wrote:
>>>> >>>  > I have the strangest issue with my host. They can't figure it out 
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> I'm
>>>> >>>  > completely perplexed. We have other sites running on the server just
>>>> >>>  fine.
>>>> >>>  > However, this new site is acting very weird. Sometimes we get blank
>>>> >>>  pages,
>>>> >>>  > sometimes we get a blank page and then a dialog pops up asking if we
>>>> >>> want
>>>> >>>  to
>>>> >>>  > download index.php, and then sometimes the site is working fine. Any
>>>> >>>  ideas
>>>> >>>  > on this?
>>>> >>>  >
>>>> >>>  > I'm at ends. Appreciate any advice. For authentication we are using
>>>> >>> mysql
>>>> >>>  > auth module in apache/linux and proxy pass. We removed proxy pass to
>>>> >>> see
>>>> >>>  if
>>>> >>>  > that was it but, it wasn't. its a members.domain.com subdomain if
>>>> >>> that
>>>> >>>  > helps.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>  Do you have php-mysql installed?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>  --
>>>> >>>  Blessings,
>>>> >>>  David M.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> > Does the page validate at http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/?
>>>> >
>>>> >     -= Bill =-
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Don't find fault. Find a remedy. - Henry Ford
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> Tristan,
>>>>
>>>> The good news is that you're not crazy.  I've had this exact issue (at 
>>>> least
>>>> in terms of symptoms) when working with one of my client's websites.
>>>>
>>>> The bad news is that this was long ago, I was using a shared host, and I'm
>>>> not the one who cause or, more importantly, fixed the problem.  That said,
>>>> I've strained my memory to try and recall what might have been said in the
>>>> follow-up from the host, and it seems like there was a mime-type handling
>>>> issue (again, I could be completely wrong, this is just a faint memory.)
>>>>
>>>> Another faint memory: are you able to see a difference in behavior when you
>>>> view an index file with the file included in the url (
>>>> http://yoursite.com/index.php) as opposed to when you view the page without
>>>> it in the url (http://yoursite.com)?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I wish I still had my email exchange with the company to see what
>>>> information they provided after the fix :(
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, you just saying that made me think of a similar problem I had
>>> once with IIS serving up files. It was XML files rather than PHP, but
>>> the Mime issue does ring a bell!
>>>
>>> Is the server you're using IIS Tristan?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ash
>>> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>>Forgot to hit reply all:
I'm not sure if this helps, or even relates, but the one time I had a
hosting account for a microsoft app named NopCommerce, when I would
try to visit the page, it seemed to only allow one connection at a
time, because of some MS DB user limitation or something, and I didn't
attempt anymore with it.

Might relate, might not.
>>
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Re: [PHP] [site is acting strange] - blank pages, download index.php, or works fine

[David Hutto]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:49 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Ashley Sheridan
>  wrote:
>> On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 13:38 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Bill Guion  wrote:
>>>
>>> > At 6:45 PM -0600 7/29/10, Tristan wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  Yeah like i said site works 95% of the time when navigating. PHP5.2, 
>>> > Mysql
>>> >> 5. The site is completely dynamic so it wouldn't work at all if that was
>>> >> the
>>> >> case of it not being installed right.
>>> >>
>>> >> so the other 5% of the time is blank pages and download index.php files.
>>> >> In
>>> >> Firefox when you get a blank page, if you click view source it will show
>>> >> all
>>> >> the code that should be there but, I can't tell if it's requesting the
>>> >> page
>>> >> again when you do that. It never fails 2 times in a row. A refresh will
>>> >> always fix it. When you look in firebug there is no html so it leads me 
>>> >> to
>>> >> believe FF may be doing just that...going for a second request instead of
>>> >> viewing currently opened source? In IE8 I would get something like
>>> >>
>>> >> diagnose problem button
>>> >>
>>> >> more information drop down with
>>> >>
>>> >> this problem can be caused by a variety of issues..this is a completely
>>> >> typical M$ error with no valid help
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> chrome same thing with
>>> >>
>>> >> web page cannot be displayed
>>> >>
>>> >> more information etc...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:36 PM, David McGlone 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>   On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 18:11 -0600, Tristan wrote:
>>> >>>  > I have the strangest issue with my host. They can't figure it out and
>>> >>> I'm
>>> >>>  > completely perplexed. We have other sites running on the server just
>>> >>>  fine.
>>> >>>  > However, this new site is acting very weird. Sometimes we get blank
>>> >>>  pages,
>>> >>>  > sometimes we get a blank page and then a dialog pops up asking if we
>>> >>> want
>>> >>>  to
>>> >>>  > download index.php, and then sometimes the site is working fine. Any
>>> >>>  ideas
>>> >>>  > on this?
>>> >>>  >
>>> >>>  > I'm at ends. Appreciate any advice. For authentication we are using
>>> >>> mysql
>>> >>>  > auth module in apache/linux and proxy pass. We removed proxy pass to
>>> >>> see
>>> >>>  if
>>> >>>  > that was it but, it wasn't. its a members.domain.com subdomain if
>>> >>> that
>>> >>>  > helps.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  Do you have php-mysql installed?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  --
>>> >>>  Blessings,
>>> >>>  David M.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> > Does the page validate at http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/?
>>> >
>>> >     -= Bill =-
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Don't find fault. Find a remedy. - Henry Ford
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> Tristan,
>>>
>>> The good news is that you're not crazy.  I've had this exact issue (at least
>>> in terms of symptoms) when working with one of my client's websites.
>>>
>>> The bad news is that this was long ago, I was using a shared host, and I'm
>>> not the one who cause or, more importantly, fixed the problem.  That said,
>>> I've strained my memory to try and recall what might have been said in the
>>> follow-up from the host, and it seems like there was a mime-type handling
>>> issue (again, I could be completely wrong, this is just a faint memory.)
>>>
>>> Another faint memory: are you able to see a difference in behavior when you
>>> view an index file with the file included in the url (
>>> http://yoursite.com/index.php) as opposed to when you view the page without
>>> it in the url (http://yoursite.com)?
>>>
>>> Sorry, I wish I still had my email exchange with the company to see what
>>> information they provided after the fix :(
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>
>> Actually, you just saying that made me think of a similar problem I had
>> once with IIS serving up files. It was XML files rather than PHP, but
>> the Mime issue does ring a bell!
>>
>> Is the server you're using IIS Tristan?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ash
>> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>>
>>
>>

>Forgot to hit reply all:
> I'm not sure if this helps, or even relates, but the one time I had a
> hosting account for a microsoft app named NopCommerce, when I would
> try to visit the page, it seemed to only allow one connection at a
> time, because of some MS DB user limitation or something, and I didn't
> attempt anymore with it.
>
> Might relate, might not.
>

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Re: [PHP] Video lessons

[David Hutto]

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:13 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Dan Joseph  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jordan Jovanov 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Im thing that I'm little layse, Do you somebody know PHP VIDEO LESSONS?
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not sure exactly what you're meaning there, but check out www.lynda.com
>>
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>>
>> http://www.canishosting.com - Unlimited Hosting Plans start @ $3.95/month.
>> Promo Code "NEWTHINGS" for 10% off initial order -- Reseller Plans also
>> available!
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/canishosting
>> http://www.facebook.com/originalpoetry
>> http://www.facebook.com/teaserleague<http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=135491833139465>
>>
> Have you tried searching at youtube, or google. I'd suggest 'php video
> tutorials lessons' as the search term without out even trying it first
> myself.
>
I you want, you can copy and paste my suggestion into the search box,
that way it eliminates any excess activity on your part.

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Re: [PHP] Video lessons

[David Hutto]

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Dan Joseph  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jordan Jovanov wrote:
>
>> Im thing that I'm little layse, Do you somebody know PHP VIDEO LESSONS?
>>
>>
> I'm not sure exactly what you're meaning there, but check out www.lynda.com
>
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>
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> Promo Code "NEWTHINGS" for 10% off initial order -- Reseller Plans also
> available!
>
> http://www.facebook.com/canishosting
> http://www.facebook.com/originalpoetry
> http://www.facebook.com/teaserleague
>
Have you tried searching at youtube, or google. I'd suggest 'php video
tutorials lessons' as the search term without out even trying it first
myself.

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Re: [PHP] calendar libs

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:14 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Ricardo Martinez  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> i'm looking for a good calendar libs, want ask, if anyone knows a good
>>> library.
>>>
>>>
>>> thx!
>>>
>>> Ricardo
>>>
>>
>> This may hel, it's just a simple search for 'php calendar' :
>>
>> http://www.php-calendar.com/
>>
> This might help better as a reference:
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_ref_calendar.asp
> Not to say there isn't a builtin function, or.
>
minus the : Not to say there isn't a builtin function, or.
>

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Re: [PHP] calendar libs

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM, David Hutto  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Ricardo Martinez  
> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> i'm looking for a good calendar libs, want ask, if anyone knows a good
>> library.
>>
>>
>> thx!
>>
>> Ricardo
>>
>
> This may hel, it's just a simple search for 'php calendar' :
>
> http://www.php-calendar.com/
>
This might help better as a reference:

http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_ref_calendar.asp
Not to say there isn't a builtin function, or.

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Re: [PHP] calendar libs

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Ricardo Martinez  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> i'm looking for a good calendar libs, want ask, if anyone knows a good
> library.
>
>
> thx!
>
> Ricardo
>

This may hel, it's just a simple search for 'php calendar' :

http://www.php-calendar.com/

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Re: [PHP] "php -l" - does it find *anything*?

[David Hutto]

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Gary .  wrote:
> Ashley Sheridan writes:
>> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 10:54 +0200, Gary . wrote:
>
>>     If foo3 never happens to be called when I am doing my testing (for
>>     example if the call is in some "if" branch that is never exercised) then
>>     it only gets found in production, so I would like to find this kind of
>>     thing using a static analyser. The kind of problem in foo2 I could live
>>     with, but would like to find as well, if possible. (Obviously I am using
>>     these two example problems as indicative of the type of things I want to
>>     find, it isn't an exhaustive list!)
>>
>>     BTW, what problems *does* "php -l" pick up? I can't find a description
>>     anywhere.
>>
>> According to the man page for php, the -l flag only checks the syntax, so a
>> warning wouldn't be displayed, as technically it's not a show-stopper.
>
> Well, I think foo3 is, but yeah, I know what you mean.
>
>> Maybe
>> some sort of unit testing would help pick out these sorts of issues?
>
> I do. Actually I posted this by mistake to the phpunit mailing list
> first :)
>
>> As PHP
>> isn't a compiled language, I guess it's harder for it to pick up on things
>> like this.
>
> Yeah. There are static checkers out there, even some FOSS ones. I guess
> I'm just a bit frustrated that (as you say) the man page says that "-l"
> checks syntax but doesn't really detail what kind of things that
> covers. Actually, I can't even find a decent description of what
> E_STRICT covers :( just that "Enabling E_STRICT during development has
> some benefits.

Just to interject a little newbie talk... have you ever written a
program alone(something developers do for specific situations a lot I
find), and not properly written out the documentation because YOU
understood what you were doing, but were more into the code than
docking it?. This does seem to be a predominant theme amongst some
open source projects.

STRICT messages will help you to use the latest and
> greatest suggested method of coding, for example warn you about using
> deprecated functions."
>
> "Some benefits"? "For example"? Telling people exactly what is covered
> seems more useful, to me. Meh. Anyway, that's my whine over for the day
> :)
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Re: [PHP] Event Handling

[David Hutto]

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Jochem Maas  wrote:

> Op 3/15/10 8:24 AM, Midhun Girish schreef:
> > Hi ,
> > Just as David Hutto has said,What you need is the cronjob... Make a
> script
> > say "check.php" which checks the db to see if any new entries are made...
> > and if yes send the mail ...
> >
> > now using the cronjob feature in linux os(which will be provided as a
> > service in your linux hosting cpanel), set a cronjob which calls the "
> > http://www.yoursite.com/check.php"; URL every minute now a trigger
> will
> > be there every minute to the script and the emails will be send
> irrespective
> > of whether anyone is browsing the site or not hope it is clear...
> >
>
> use cron - yes
> have cron call a web URL - no, instead just call the script via the php CLI
> sapi,
> e.g. a cmdline as follows in cron:
>
> /usr/env php /path/to/your/check.php &> /dev/null
>


I do believe removing the /dev/null will send error messages during the
building of the script, correct?

Re: [PHP] Event Handling

[David Hutto]

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Lester Caine  wrote:

> Alex Major wrote:
>
>> I'm currently looking at building a web application, however I've run into
>> an area of development I've not come across before. The web site in its
>> basic form allows users to send cars from a point and then the car will
>> arrive at another point. When the car is set on its way, the start time,
>> travel duration and end time are all known and stored in a MySQL database,
>>
>
> The question HAS to be asked ... how do you know the actual travel time ;)
> I think I would be expecting to have to enter something on arrival 
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You could judge the ETA if the shipping was tracked through GPS.

Re: [PHP] Event Handling

[David Hutto]

--- On *Mon, 3/15/10, David Hutto * wrote:

From: David Hutto 
Subject: Re: [PHP] Event Handling
To: php-general@lists.php.net, "Alex Major" 
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 3:34 AM



--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Alex Major
http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@allydm.co.uk>>
wrote:

> From: Alex Major 
> http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@allydm.co.uk>
>
> Subject: [PHP] Event Handling
> To: 
> php-general@lists.php.net<http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=php-gene...@lists.php.net>
> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 2:59 AM
> Greetings all,
>
> I'm currently looking at building a web application,
> however I've run into
> an area of development I've not come across before. The web
> site in its
> basic form allows users to send cars from a point and then
> the car will
> arrive at another point. When the car is set on its way,
> the start time,
> travel duration and end time are all known and stored in a
> MySQL database,
> what I would like to happen is that an event is triggered
> on the server at
> the end time and then an e-mail is sent to the user. This
> should happen
> regardless of whether someone is browsing the website or
> not.
>
> I don't believe that I'll be able to solely use PHP, I have
> spent the
> afternoon trying to look at potential solutions but I have
> to admit I've
> drawn a blank. Google hasn't been helpful (64 pages so
> far), as any searches
> related to "event handling" bring up a load of JavaScript
> tutorials/help for
> 'onclick' events etc. I have searched through the PHP
> documentation and
> found "libevent" (http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.libevent.php ), I
> don't
> believe that is what I require (although in all honesty the
> lack of
> documentation on it means I'm quite in the dark as to its
> purpose). Another
> potential candidate I came across was a PHP/Java bridge
> (http://php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/pjb/ ), whereby
> I could use the java
> virtual machine, register events with it and then callback
> PHP scripts,
> although this seems extremely long winded.
>
> I was hoping that someone might have some experience with
> this kind of issue
> and could point me in the right direction. I'm sure I've
> missed something
> right in front of me.
>
> Alex.
>
>

I'm a noob at php myself, but what you might want to look at is cron jobs
and autoresponders. Here's an address to one I've messed with before:
infinite.ibasics.biz/ I believe it uses cron jobs, I've messed with a lot so
it's hard to recall.

You might want to have the web app insert the new info in the tables, and
have the cron job and script do the rest.

David

Re: [PHP] Login Script: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource

[David Hutto]

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Ashley Sheridan  wrote:

From: Ashley Sheridan 
Subject: Re: [PHP] Login Script: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a 
valid MySQL result resource
To: "David Hutto" 
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 5:34 AM




  
  
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 00:30 -0800, David Hutto wrote:

The following script is supposed to validate a username and password in a mysql 
db.  When entering the username and password of a preregistered user, I get the 
following errors:

Warning:  mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result 
resource in /var/www/login.php on line 24



Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output 
started at /var/www/login.php:24) in /var/www/login.php on line 26

On line 24 is:

>>>if(!mysql_num_rows($login)) //if the username and pass are wrong

--The supplied argument is $login, which is previously defined as:

>>>$login = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM 'userinfo' WHERE `user` = '$user' AND 
>>>`pass` = '$pass`");

--which is further defined above it as these values:

  $user = $_POST['user']; //pulls the username from the form
  $pw = $_POST['pass']; //pulls the pass from the form
  $pass = md5($pw); //makes our password an md

So why is the sum of those previous definitions an invalid argument for the 
mysql_query() to test for whether the username and md5 password values are 
true/equivalent to each other?

Thanks for any help you may be able to provide, below is the full login.php 
page.

David


This is the full login.php script, I'm pretty sure no other portions are needed 
to show at this point for the current problem:


  Username
  
  
  Password
  
  
  
  
  
  ');
}
elseif($act == "auth") //if our page action = auth
{
  $user = $_POST['user']; //pulls the username from the form
  $pw = $_POST['pass']; //pulls the pass from the form
  $pass = md5($pw); //makes our password an md5
  include("connect.php"); //connects to our mysql database
  $login = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM `userinfo` WHERE `user` = '$user' AND 
`pass` = '$pass`"); //selects info from our table if the row has the same user 
and pass that our form does
  if(!mysql_num_rows($login)) //if the username and pass are wrong
  {
    header("Location: login.php");  //redirects to our login page
    die(); //stops the page from going any further
  }
  else
  {
    setcookie("user", $user, time()+3600);//sets our user cookie
    setcookie("pass", $pass, time()+3600);//sets our pass cookie
    header("Location: memprar.php");//instead of yourpage.php it 
would be your protected page
  } 
}
?>



  




First, please create a new email when sending to the list and don't just reply 
to the last one, as those of us with email clients that group by threads get 
confused when the subject line appears to change mid-thread!



On to your question, you've got an error with your query, so it will never work:



"SELECT * FROM `userinfo` WHERE `user` = '$user' AND `pass` = '$pass`"    // 
change that last back tick after $pass!



Lastly; protect your queries! That $user variable is open to injection. 
Replacing it with something like $user = 
mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['user']); Your $pass is protected (I believe) 
because of what you're doing with the hash, but I'm not an expert in these 
things, so it could be that this may not be enough.






Thanks,

Ash

http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk





Apologies for hijacking the thread, I hit reply all in a randomly picked email 
and deleted the info/subject line, guess that doesn't work.

Thanks for the advice, it's almost working right, all things considered.

David




 



  

[PHP] Re: Login Script: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource

[David Hutto]

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, David Hutto  wrote:

From: David Hutto 
Subject: Login Script: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL 
result resource
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 3:30 AM

The following script is supposed to validate a username and password in a mysql 
db.  When entering the username and password of a preregistered user, I get the 
following errors:

Warning:  mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result 
resource in /var/www/login.php on line 24



Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output 
started at /var/www/login.php:24) in /var/www/login.php on line 26

On line 24 is:

>>>if(!mysql_num_rows($login)) //if the username and pass are wrong

--The supplied argument is $login, which is previously defined as:

>>>$login = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM 'userinfo' WHERE `user` = '$user' AND 
>>>`pass` = '$pass`");

--which is further defined above it as these values:

  $user = $_POST['user']; //pulls the username from the form
  $pw = $_POST['pass']; //pulls the pass from the form
  $pass = md5($pw); //makes our password an md

So why is the sum of those previous definitions an invalid argument for the 
mysql_query() to test for whether the username and md5 password values are 
true/equivalent to each other?

Because basically !mysql_num_rows($login) is just if'ing the lack of a 
user/pass match, else it continues to set cookie and session variables.

If I'm looking at this wrong let me know.

Thanks for any help you may be able to provide, below is the
 full login.php page.

David


This is the full login.php script, I'm pretty sure no other portions are needed 
to show at this point for the current problem:


  Username
  
  
  Password
  
  
  
  
  
  ');
}
elseif($act == "auth") //if our page action = auth
{
  $user = $_POST['user']; //pulls the username from the form
  $pw = $_POST['pass']; //pulls the pass from
 the form
  $pass = md5($pw); //makes our password an md5
  include("connect.php"); //connects to our mysql database
  $login = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM `userinfo` WHERE `user` = '$user' AND 
`pass` = '$pass`"); //selects info from our table if the row has the same user 
and pass that our form does
  if(!mysql_num_rows($login)) //if the username and pass are wrong
  {
    header("Location: login.php");  //redirects to our login page
    die(); //stops the page from going any further
  }
  else
  {
    setcookie("user", $user, time()+3600);//sets our user cookie
    setcookie("pass", $pass, time()+3600);//sets our pass
 cookie
    header("Location: memprar.php");//instead of yourpage.php it 
would be your protected page
  } 
}
?>





  


  

[PHP] Login Script: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource

[David Hutto]

The following script is supposed to validate a username and password in a mysql 
db.  When entering the username and password of a preregistered user, I get the 
following errors:

Warning:  mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result 
resource in /var/www/login.php on line 24



Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output 
started at /var/www/login.php:24) in /var/www/login.php on line 26

On line 24 is:

>>>if(!mysql_num_rows($login)) //if the username and pass are wrong

--The supplied argument is $login, which is previously defined as:

>>>$login = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM 'userinfo' WHERE `user` = '$user' AND 
>>>`pass` = '$pass`");

--which is further defined above it as these values:

  $user = $_POST['user']; //pulls the username from the form
  $pw = $_POST['pass']; //pulls the pass from the form
  $pass = md5($pw); //makes our password an md

So why is the sum of those previous definitions an invalid argument for the 
mysql_query() to test for whether the username and md5 password values are 
true/equivalent to each other?

Thanks for any help you may be able to provide, below is the full login.php 
page.

David


This is the full login.php script, I'm pretty sure no other portions are needed 
to show at this point for the current problem:


  Username
  
  
  Password
  
  
  
  
  
  ');
}
elseif($act == "auth") //if our page action = auth
{
  $user = $_POST['user']; //pulls the username from the form
  $pw = $_POST['pass']; //pulls the pass from the form
  $pass = md5($pw); //makes our password an md5
  include("connect.php"); //connects to our mysql database
  $login = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM `userinfo` WHERE `user` = '$user' AND 
`pass` = '$pass`"); //selects info from our table if the row has the same user 
and pass that our form does
  if(!mysql_num_rows($login)) //if the username and pass are wrong
  {
    header("Location: login.php");  //redirects to our login page
    die(); //stops the page from going any further
  }
  else
  {
    setcookie("user", $user, time()+3600);//sets our user cookie
    setcookie("pass", $pass, time()+3600);//sets our pass cookie
    header("Location: memprar.php");//instead of yourpage.php it 
would be your protected page
  } 
}
?>



  

[PHP] Reading Encrypted Password From MySQLDB

[David Hutto]

Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu)
MySQL client version: 5.1.37
PHP extension: mysqli
PHP Version 5.2.10-2ubuntu6.4

I'm doing the tutorial from this site:
http://www.trap17.com/index.php/Php-Simple-Login-Tutorial_t7887.html

This is register.php

Thanks for registering!";
 }
 
//The web form for input ability
else
 {
 echo "\n";
 echo "Username: \n";
 echo "Password: \n";
 echo "Email Address: \n";
 echo "\n";
 echo "\n";
 }
// EOF
?>





This is login.php



id;
  $_SESSION["valid_user"] = $_POST["username"];
  $_SESSION["valid_time"] = time();

  // Redirect to member page
  Header("Location: members.php");
  }
 else
  {
  // Login not successful
  die("Sorry, could not log you in. Wrong login information.");
  }
 }
else
 {
//If all went right the Web form appears and users can log in
 echo "";
 echo "Username: ";
 echo "Password: ";
 echo "";
 echo "";
 }
?>

Problem:

All users registered through registration page, can't login/get error message.

When the password is first written to the db from the registration.php it's 
assigned a unique number. The problem seems to be in aligning how it's 
validated by the login.php script.

If I manually enter a new user field with the password written directly into 
the phpMyAdmin, then the login accepts the manually entered user and password 
at login.php and transfers to the members page.

All others get the Error: "Sorry, could not log you in. Wrong login 
information."

Can someone please enlighten me as to why registration.php seems to write to 
the db and the login.php can read/validate from the manual input field but not 
know what the key to understanding the password's uniquely generated id 
assigned by the actual registration.php to the password field?

Thanks,
David