[PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Lauri
Best groupmember, What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly to the FTP? I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future to connect to the FTP. - Best Of Times /Peter Lauri -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Jason Wong
On Thursday 18 November 2004 16:41, Peter Lauri wrote: What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly to the FTP? I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future to connect to the FTP. Any KDE-aware editor would be able to take advantage of

Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:41:53 +0100, Peter Lauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly to the FTP? Editplus has this ability. http://editplus.com/ -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://gdconsultants.com/

RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Gryffyn, Trevor
-Original Message- From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP? On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:41:53 +0100, Peter Lauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What editor do you

RE: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Chris W. Parker
Peter Lauri mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 AM said: What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly to the FTP? I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but it do not have the future to connect to the FTP. HTML-Kit

Re: [PHP] PHP-editor connected to FTP?

2004-11-18 Thread Chris
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:35:42 -0800, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Lauri mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:42 AM said: What editor do you use when working with websites (php) connected directly to the FTP? I like Eclipse 3.0 with the PHP plugin, but

[PHP] PHP editor that doesn't require installation

2004-07-23 Thread John W. Holmes
Does anyone know of a good windows PHP editor that I can run from a USB flash drive without installing it? A good stand-alone editor. I know how to use Vi, so I'll even take a copy of that (so long as it's got syntax hightlighting) so long as installation isn't required. For everyone else,

[PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
Hello! This might sound like a stupid question but could anyone recommand a good PHP editor... I have used some editors until now but each one has some problems... Right now I am using PHPed which is pretty good but oine of the major problems is that it does fills the tabs with spaces which

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Vicente Werner
El Thursday 15 April 2004 10:28, Arthur Radulescu escribi: Hello! This might sound like a stupid question but could anyone recommand a good PHP editor... I have used some editors until now but each one has some problems... Right now I am using PHPed which is pretty good but oine of the

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
Hi, Filling tabs with spaces is a directive for good programming - see http://pear.php.net If you want a good editor you can try EditPlus - almost as fast as notepad :) Regards, Jorge | cloreto.com Arthur Radulescu wrote: Hello! This might sound like a stupid question but could anyone

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
It might be a directive for good programming but as long as this might double the size of a resulted page this is not good for me. Thanks anyway. Arthur Filling tabs with spaces is a directive for good programming - see http://pear.php.net If you want a good editor you can try EditPlus -

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 07:14, Arthur Radulescu wrote: It might be a directive for good programming but as long as this might double the size of a resulted page this is not good for me. Thanks anyway. Sounds like you suffer from no-accelerator-itis. Using one of the PHP accelerators will make

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Robert, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 12:34:09 PM, you wrote: RC Sounds like you suffer from no-accelerator-itis. Using one of the PHP RC accelerators will make whitespace concerns pointless since they operate Not everyone can do this though Rob, I certainly cannot employ any kind of PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K because of those white spaces instead of tabs... For a dial up connection this means a lot

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread electroteque
:48 PM To: Robert Cummings Cc: PHP-General Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP editor Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K because

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Travis Low
XEmacs www.xemacs.org. T Arthur Radulescu wrote: Hello! This might sound like a stupid question but could anyone recommand a good PHP editor... I have used some editors until now but each one has some problems... Right now I am using PHPed which is pretty good but oine of the major problems is

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
What I am looking for is something to work pretty fast, have code autocompletion (even for functions defined in the included files like zend does) and also code ident in a similar manner with zend studio Check out Visual Slick Edit. After using many of the more oft suggested editors, I found

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Lowell Allen
What I am looking for is something to work pretty fast, have code autocompletion (even for functions defined in the included files like zend does) and also code ident in a similar manner with zend studio I just installed Zend Studio because I was able to buy it through Adobe at a discount when

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Arthur Radulescu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:48 AM said: Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
electroteque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:03 AM said: the htmlkit looks hot, although its licenced, work has a shitty copy of homesite 4 licences, i doubt i can convince them, i am using phpedit, although does it turn tabs into spaces ?? html-kit is great. and

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K because of those white spaces instead of tabs... For a dial up connection this means

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 11:58 am, Chris Boget wrote: Why does it sound totally wrong? A tab is a single character whereas 2 spaces are 2 characters. 1 x 50k = 50k 2 x 50k = 100k Try the following code: echo str_repeat( , 5 ); or echo str_repeat( \t, 5 ); Remove all

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Tom Rogers
Hi, Friday, April 16, 2004, 2:48:03 AM, you wrote: CWP Arthur Radulescu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CWP on Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:48 AM said: Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
Remove all whitespace from the final HTML, then all this doesn't matter. function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Have already thought about this but would this not be too

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a single line function: function cleanFinalOutput($html){ return

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Chris Boget mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:59 AM said: Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Arthur Radulescu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:02 AM said: Remove all whitespace from the final HTML, then all this doesn't matter. [snip function] Have already thought about this but would this not be too time consuming to process this replacement on evey

Re[3]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Tom Rogers
Hi, Friday, April 16, 2004, 3:06:09 AM, you wrote: TR Hi, TR Friday, April 16, 2004, 2:48:03 AM, you wrote: CWP Arthur Radulescu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CWP on Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:48 AM said: Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Lowell, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 4:00:03 PM, you wrote: LA I just installed Zend Studio because I was able to buy it through Adobe LA at a discount when upgrading GoLive. I've been comfortable working in LA the source editor of GoLive, and the new version has improved support LA for PHP,

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
i guess you didn't read the second part of my email that started after the ON THE OTHER HAND line. Ok, yes, I am a retard. :) Chris -never mind me. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
1 - If we are talking about php code, it's irrelevant, in terms of size, using spaces or tabs, because they are not part of output. 2 - If, on other and, we are talking about html created by the php code, the case is completely different because output is parsed to the browser, so size will

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Chris, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 6:15:55 PM, you wrote: CB Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above CB to a single line function: Not to be even more pedantic, but isn't this entirely pointless anyway? Modems have long compressed ASCII streams - that 50KB of blank

Re: Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
I fully agree with you but as I have mentioned the first time Zend seems to be to slow for fast editing... And sometimes it really takes too much from the computer resources... I spend around 8 to 10 hours a day inside of Zend Studio (it's open behind this email window as I type) and I couldn't

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Chris Boget ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a single line

[Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
I think I am also sleeping :) My conclusion is that: - for html is better using tabs because by using spaces, it will increase output to the browser; - when coding php it's irrelevant because output is not parsed to browser. Jorge | cloreto.com -- PHP General Mailing List

Re[4]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Arthur, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 6:23:56 PM, you wrote: AR I fully agree with you but as I have mentioned the first time Zend seems to AR be to slow for fast editing... And sometimes it really takes too much from AR the computer resources... You need a fast PC with a lot of memory

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:32 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: um.. preg_replace('/\s+/m', ' ', $html); pre btw, blindly removing space (even from html) isn't a wise thing todo. /pre The function I posted only removes tabs, newlines, and carriage returns. It does not remove space

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:02 pm, Arthur Radulescu wrote: Have already thought about this but would this not be too time consuming to process this replacement on evey hit? I am using a version of fast template much improved on a site which is already very overloaded so this would mean

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:15 pm, Chris Boget wrote: function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Greg Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:32 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: um.. preg_replace('/\s+/m', ' ', $html); pre btw, blindly removing space (even from html) isn't a wise thing todo. /pre The function I posted only removes tabs, newlines,

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:21 pm, Jorge Oliveira wrote: I use spaces for php code and tabs for html. And the point of doing that is? -- Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
1 - By using spaces on php code, I assure that I (or others) can edit the script in any editor easily 2 - I use tabs(or no tabs at all) for html because size of output sent to browser is smaller this way. Greg Donald wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:21 pm, Jorge Oliveira wrote: I use

RE: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] 1 - By using spaces on php code, I assure that I (or others) can edit the script in any editor easily 2 - I use tabs(or no tabs at all) for html because size of output sent to browser is smaller this way. [/snip] That is not correct. Since PHP and HTML engines all ignore white space and

RE: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jorge Oliveira mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:32 AM said: - for html is better using tabs because by using spaces, it will increase output to the browser; only if you use more than one space per indent. chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce the size of the page... --- That is not correct. Since PHP and HTML engines all ignore white space and comments it does not

RE: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce the size of the page... [snip] Your assumption about Google would be incorrect, it has nothing to do with page size as most of their pages

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:57 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: ok, then: s/[\r\n\t]//m; either way, you're blindly removing white space, which *does* matter in certain cases. What case would that be? The function I posted is completely safe. I've been using it for a long time without any issues.

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
What I meant was that it is obiously that eliminating the spaces but not by a blind replacement, the new lines characters and even the tabs will reduce the size of the page which will result in a faster loading and less bandwidth consumed... And the example was google... Am I wrong with anything

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Travis Low
You are correct, but I believe the bandwidth savings is small. What I usually do for my apps is allow the admin to configure whitespace trimming. If configured, I only remove whitespace from the beginning of the line to the first non-whitespace character. This reduces the code size somewhat,

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread John W. Holmes
From: Chris Boget [EMAIL PROTECTED] function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a single line function:

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Greg, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 7:35:20 PM, you wrote: GD All the styles and javascript work fine. HTML parsers don't give a rats ass GD about newlines, tabs, and carriage returns so why have them.. Makes the GD output easier to compress as well. Got to agree here, I remember back in the

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
You are correct, but I believe the bandwidth savings is small. What I usually do for my apps is allow the admin to configure whitespace trimming. If configured, I only remove whitespace from the beginning of the line to the first non-whitespace character. This reduces the code size

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:49 pm, Richard Davey wrote: The browser doesn't give a monkeys about whitespace et all. Having said that, stripping it vs. leaving it is virtually irrelevant too and I'm shocked why so many skilled people on this list actually care-less about it :) There is no

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:38 pm, John W. Holmes wrote: Certainly don't need to fire up the regex engine. return str_replace(array(\r,\n,\t),'',$html); Sweet, didn't know you pass it an array. Thx! -- Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Greg Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:57 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: ok, then: s/[\r\n\t]//m; either way, you're blindly removing white space, which *does* matter in certain cases. What case would that be? The function I posted is completely safe. I've

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Arthur Radulescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce the size of the page... I very much doubt that, if they were so concerned about WS then they

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote John W. Holmes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): From: Chris Boget [EMAIL PROTECTED] function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Greg, Thursday, April 15, 2004, 7:57:12 PM, you wrote: GD Well at my shop more efficient = right and less efficient = wrong. Passing a potentially huge string through a replacement function for every single page doesn't really = efficient in my shop. YMMV. -- Best regards, Richard

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
Richard Davey wrote: Passing a potentially huge string through a replacement function for every single page doesn't really = efficient in my shop. YMMV. We use Turke MMCache so it's not every single page. Besides that CPUs are way cheaper than bandwidth. -- Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Greg, Friday, April 16, 2004, 1:44:57 AM, you wrote: Passing a potentially huge string through a replacement function for every single page doesn't really = efficient in my shop. YMMV. GD We use Turke MMCache so it's not every single page. GD Besides that CPUs are way cheaper than

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-03 Thread Nico Berg
] PHP Editor [snip] I am pretty new in PHP coding. So for starters i want to know what is a good php-editor? I like them freeware for windows. [/snip] EDIT for windows is great, it's free, it's already installed and it requires that you do no additional searching of manuals, archives

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-03 Thread Chris W. Parker
Nico Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, October 03, 2003 12:38 AM said: Hi, I have found the solution to my problem, I share it http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/ OOH! OOH! OOH! This should be added to the weekly PHP Newbie post!!! chris. -- PHP General Mailing List

[PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Nico Berg
Hi there, I am pretty new in PHP coding. So for starters i want to know what is a good php-editor? I like them freeware for windows. Greeting and thanks in advance, Nico -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I am pretty new in PHP coding. So for starters i want to know what is a good php-editor? I like them freeware for windows. [/snip] EDIT for windows is great, it's free, it's already installed and it requires that you do no additional searching of manuals, archives, or the web to use.

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I have the Dutch translation of the php-bible and they write: Use the right tool, don't let anybody tell you you need notepad or tools like that, use a proper tool. Are they dumm? Is it better to use a tool like emacs, notepad, edit or someting like that? The advice Visual Slickedit but

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Chris W. Parker
Nico Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:09 AM said: I am pretty new in PHP coding. So for starters i want to know what is a good php-editor? I like them freeware for windows. HTML-Kit www.chami.com c. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread pete M
I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor ! John Nichel wrote: I know we've discussed this numerous times, but I'll chime in again (mainly because I'm bored). By far, I have been totally satisfied with UltraEdit. Lightweight, just about any language you

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
I like accelerators I just didnt like the price. So I wrote my own, but I havent worked all the bugs out yet. From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: 24 Sep 2003 09:44:40

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
in the HTML or php. But again thats just me. From: Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cesar Cordovez [EMAIL PROTECTED], PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:04:45 -0400 Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
lmao .. good one. From: pete M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:59:19 +0100 I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor ! John Nichel wrote: I know we've discussed this numerous

Re[2]: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Tom Rogers
Hi, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 10:40:27 PM, you wrote: DM lmao .. good one. From: pete M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:59:19 +0100 I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
:12 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I bet you don't indent your code either. And all white characters are useless too, they only slow interpreter down. Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: if($pos_params!=false){$back_url=substr($HTTP_GET_VARS['origin'],0,$pos_para ms

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
you can create so-called assistants... You can create a loop that asks in a table how many rows and columns do you want in that table. Then you can have it create the table with all your favorite default table settings, but while it is generating it, you could have it prompt you for

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:52 AM said: I already answered that question two days ago. I didn't ask you to answer it twice so I don't what you're talking about. c, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
if you will.. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jim Lucas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Chris W. Parker' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'jeffrey pearson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
] PHP Editor - which to use? Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:52 AM said: I already answered that question two days ago. I didn't ask you to answer it twice so I don't what you're talking about. c, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
I guess you could call them helper scripts libraries. Example would be: You can program a script to create a switch statement and then have it prompt you for the number of case statements to add in and if you want them to break; or not. Things like that. Short cuts if you will..

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread tjr
AEdiX - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl, java

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Ralph Guzman
It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Ha,ha. too funny. -Original Message- From: Jim Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:56 AM To: jeffrey pearson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
priced copy does. Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow you to do internal scripting. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Didier McGillis
into the production environment. But really unless you are dealing with hight traffic sites, your not going to see a difference. From: Marek Kilimajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:12:04

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Cummings
: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl, java, and many others through modules that are downloadable from their web site, DOESNT change code like

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Didier McGillis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): alot easier for me with the returns and tabs. What I do is I have a script that strips out any space, tabs, carriage returns and then moves the code into the production environment. But really unless you are dealing with In some cases,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 09:43, Curt Zirzow wrote: * Thus wrote Didier McGillis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): alot easier for me with the returns and tabs. What I do is I have a script that strips out any space, tabs, carriage returns and then moves the code into the production environment. But

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Robert Cummings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): *COUGH* *COUGH* EVERY REAL coder knows that you have to use the following brace style for your code to be accepted into the l33t hierarchy of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if( $pos_params != false ) { $back_url = substr( $HTTP_GET_VARS['origin'],

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi, Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: [snip horrible code] if($pos_params!=false) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so testing it like this is pretty much pointless. It makes more sense (and is much more readable IMHO) to do something like this: if

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Curt Zirzow wrote: cat | realprogrammer | in_a_rush if($p) { $bu = substr( $_GET['o'], 0, $p ); $bup = substr( $_GET['o'], ++$p ); } else { $bu = $_GET['o']; $bup = ''; } This is a real world example of how real programmer in a rush can introduce bugs. Original example did not modify $p

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Jon Haworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: [snip horrible code] if($pos_params!=false) um... you rewrote that, his code was: if( $pos_params != false ) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Jon Haworth wrote: if($pos_params!=false) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so testing it like this is pretty much pointless. It makes more sense (and is much more readable IMHO) to do something like this: if ($pos_params) { // something } From the futher reading

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Kevin Bruce
FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing static sites. I use OSX for my writing platform and occasionally use BBedit as

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread andu
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Cesar Cordovez
THE best text/code editor in this planet is BBEdit. No questions about it. It is a pitty it only runs on Macs. I have used it to write text, code fortran, pascal, c, c++, html, css and php (among others). It is great, I love it. Kudos to Bare Bones! Great find/replace utility. Incredible

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Kevin Bruce
Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how it turns out. Yes, Dreamweaver does sucketh much, but it's great for hashing out the page (WYSIWYG style) then tweeking the code. I Hate (capital H) hand typing nested tables.* :P *high school memoryHwat the hell do I need typing

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Clint Tredway
The new Dreamweaver is much better than the previous version. I still have not found 'the ideal' editor for me and I use several tools. The one tool that looks like it could become my tool of choice could be eclipse. because you can build custom editors (plugins) for anything you need. Clint

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread John Nichel
I know we've discussed this numerous times, but I'll chime in again (mainly because I'm bored). By far, I have been totally satisfied with UltraEdit. Lightweight, just about any language you want to edit, user configurable syntax highlighting (for those into that), handles UNIX / DOS / Mac

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:04:45PM -0400, Kevin Bruce wrote: : : Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how it turns out. : Yes, Dreamweaver does sucketh much, but it's great for hashing out the page : (WYSIWYG style) then tweeking the code. I Hate (capital H) hand typing :

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Gal
The Best is the GTK verstion of the classic VI editor (latest VI 6.2 - uses GTK 2 on Linux) and there is also a Windows version. It's the best and you don't have to pay for licenses. http://www.vim.org/index.php Notepad - is very poor. you can not controle tabs spaces, see white space and

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Evan Nemerson
In you php.ini, set error_append_string to ... you loser! On Monday 22 September 2003 07:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. Some of the most gifted people in the world are all three! Not that I'm claiming to be one, but yes I'm all three. :-D

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread jeffrey pearson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:00 am Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php- must-have-editors. grtz jan

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