Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-11 Thread Daniel Guerrier
Why not just maintain carts for users with accounts and maintain them indefinately. Users with out accounts can have there carts stored in a session and will become invalid when the session expires. --- Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey there everyone. I haven't had time much to

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-11 Thread Chris W. Parker
Daniel Guerrier mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:08 AM said: Why not just maintain carts for users with accounts and maintain them indefinately. Users with out accounts can have there carts stored in a session and will become invalid when the session expires.

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-05 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Of course, now you have to deal with putting inventory back on the shelf when the session expiresand you have no way of knowing when that would happen unless you're storing *something*. A good point, if that's the way he wants to do things... In which case, SC needs to be stored

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-05 Thread David T-G
Chris, et al -- ...and then Chris W. Parker said... % % Hey there everyone. Hiya! % ... % How do you determine if a shopping cart has been abandoned or not? ... % % The problem I see is that a cart could be considered abandoned for 4 % days but then become active again because the customer

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-05 Thread David T-G
Chris, et al -- ...and then Chris W. Parker said... % ... % % Would it be too complicated to say 5 in inventory, 2 of those are in % customer shopping carts? Or something along those lines? I shouldn't think so; it would be a bit of extra work, but not a big deal. If you did, then I'd have a

[PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Hey there everyone. I haven't had time much to work on my cart program recently but I was just thinking about abandoned carts and can't figure something out completely. How do you determine if a shopping cart has been abandoned or not? What I am thinking is that when the customer adds an item

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Anas Mughal
This looks like a business decision. Your business anaylist could help answer your question. Chris W. Parker wrote: Hey there everyone. I haven't had time much to work on my cart program recently but I was just thinking about abandoned carts and can't figure something out completely. How do

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Chris, Thursday, December 4, 2003, 9:09:57 PM, you wrote: CWP The problem I see is that a cart could be considered abandoned for 4 CWP days but then become active again because the customer has come back to CWP it and has added more products to it. In this case I'd say it was never CWP

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Eric Wood
Chris W. Parker wrote: Now what do we do? Does the program automatically delete the carts after a certain (definable) period of time, i.e. 7 days? OR do we allow the merchant to manually delete the carts at any point they want? And how do you determine your abandoned cart rate? That is, do

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] ...ton's o thoughts [/snip] I am making an assumption that you are using sessions for your shoppers. If this is the case then the cart would be abandoned if/when the session expires. If you are not using sessions then I think 24 hours would be on the longish side of acceptable. In

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 16:22, Eric Wood wrote: Chris W. Parker wrote: Now what do we do? Does the program automatically delete the carts after a certain (definable) period of time, i.e. 7 days? OR do we allow the merchant to manually delete the carts at any point they want? And how do you

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Justin French
On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 08:09 AM, Chris W. Parker wrote: I haven't had time much to work on my cart program recently but I was just thinking about abandoned carts and can't figure something out completely. How do you determine if a shopping cart has been abandoned or not? What I am

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Anas Mughal mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:23 PM said: This looks like a business decision. Your business anaylist could help answer your question. Yes, and so far they've all given good ideas. Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Justin Patrin
Of course, this makes problems when you're adding promotional product to the cart, which should have a seperate price. Add to this that the customer may have special pricing (think Business to Business). So you have to have an update mechanism for promotions and the extra price lists. Do-able,

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jay Blanchard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:25 PM said: In another thread on another list I pointed out to another person designing a cart that the items in the cart are removed from inventory while they are in the cart even though no check-out has occured. If

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Justin French mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:20 PM said: If you owned a grocery store, you'd have to decide how long you'd leave an abandoned cart in isle 3 -- 5 minutes? a week? This is entirely a decision up to you and your client. slaps_forehead/ ;) If

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 16:24, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] ...ton's o thoughts [/snip] I am making an assumption that you are using sessions for your shoppers. If this is the case then the cart would be abandoned if/when the session expires. If you are not using sessions then I think 24

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Justin French
On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 09:35 AM, Chris W. Parker wrote: Yeah the session files are cleaned up automatically but your application doesn't know that. You'd have to specifically tell your application (via a cron job??) when the session get cleaned up and that it (the application) should

RE: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Chris W. Parker
Justin French mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:48 PM said: Rather than storing the shopping cart in a DB, store the cart in the session. When the session dies, so does the cart. When/if they choose to save it, it THEN gets ported into a database. Aaah...!

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Justin Patrin
Of course, now you have to deal with putting inventory back on the shelf when the session expiresand you have no way of knowing when that would happen unless you're storing *something*. Chris W. Parker wrote: Justin French mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:48 PM

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Jon Bennett
why not only reduce the stock once a sale has gone through ??? Cheers, Jon jon bennett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] new media designer / developer _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ J b e n . n e t 91 Gloucester Rd, Trowbridge, Wilts, BA14 0AD t: +44 (0) 1225

Re: [PHP] how to determine if shopping cart has been abandoned?

2003-12-04 Thread Justin French
On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 12:09 PM, Justin Patrin wrote: Of course, now you have to deal with putting inventory back on the shelf when the session expiresand you have no way of knowing when that would happen unless you're storing *something*. A good point, if that's the way he wants