Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K because of those white spaces instead of tabs... For a dial up connection this means

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 11:58 am, Chris Boget wrote: Why does it sound totally wrong? A tab is a single character whereas 2 spaces are 2 characters. 1 x 50k = 50k 2 x 50k = 100k Try the following code: echo str_repeat( , 5 ); or echo str_repeat( \t, 5 ); Remove all

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
Remove all whitespace from the final HTML, then all this doesn't matter. function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Have already thought about this but would this not be too

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a single line function: function cleanFinalOutput($html){ return

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Chris Boget mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:59 AM said: Not exactly... I was not reffering to PHP files... The white spaces from a template file will make double the size of certain files when they are sent to the browser... So a page of 50 k might have 100 K

RE: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Arthur Radulescu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:02 AM said: Remove all whitespace from the final HTML, then all this doesn't matter. [snip function] Have already thought about this but would this not be too time consuming to process this replacement on evey

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Boget
i guess you didn't read the second part of my email that started after the ON THE OTHER HAND line. Ok, yes, I am a retard. :) Chris -never mind me. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
1 - If we are talking about php code, it's irrelevant, in terms of size, using spaces or tabs, because they are not part of output. 2 - If, on other and, we are talking about html created by the php code, the case is completely different because output is parsed to the browser, so size will

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Chris Boget ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a single line

[Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
I think I am also sleeping :) My conclusion is that: - for html is better using tabs because by using spaces, it will increase output to the browser; - when coding php it's irrelevant because output is not parsed to browser. Jorge | cloreto.com -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:32 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: um.. preg_replace('/\s+/m', ' ', $html); pre btw, blindly removing space (even from html) isn't a wise thing todo. /pre The function I posted only removes tabs, newlines, and carriage returns. It does not remove space

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:02 pm, Arthur Radulescu wrote: Have already thought about this but would this not be too time consuming to process this replacement on evey hit? I am using a version of fast template much improved on a site which is already very overloaded so this would mean

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:15 pm, Chris Boget wrote: function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Greg Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:32 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: um.. preg_replace('/\s+/m', ' ', $html); pre btw, blindly removing space (even from html) isn't a wise thing todo. /pre The function I posted only removes tabs, newlines,

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:21 pm, Jorge Oliveira wrote: I use spaces for php code and tabs for html. And the point of doing that is? -- Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jorge Oliveira
1 - By using spaces on php code, I assure that I (or others) can edit the script in any editor easily 2 - I use tabs(or no tabs at all) for html because size of output sent to browser is smaller this way. Greg Donald wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:21 pm, Jorge Oliveira wrote: I use

RE: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] 1 - By using spaces on php code, I assure that I (or others) can edit the script in any editor easily 2 - I use tabs(or no tabs at all) for html because size of output sent to browser is smaller this way. [/snip] That is not correct. Since PHP and HTML engines all ignore white space and

RE: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jorge Oliveira mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:32 AM said: - for html is better using tabs because by using spaces, it will increase output to the browser; only if you use more than one space per indent. chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce the size of the page... --- That is not correct. Since PHP and HTML engines all ignore white space and comments it does not

RE: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce the size of the page... [snip] Your assumption about Google would be incorrect, it has nothing to do with page size as most of their pages

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:57 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: ok, then: s/[\r\n\t]//m; either way, you're blindly removing white space, which *does* matter in certain cases. What case would that be? The function I posted is completely safe. I've been using it for a long time without any issues.

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
What I meant was that it is obiously that eliminating the spaces but not by a blind replacement, the new lines characters and even the tabs will reduce the size of the page which will result in a faster loading and less bandwidth consumed... And the example was google... Am I wrong with anything

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Travis Low
You are correct, but I believe the bandwidth savings is small. What I usually do for my apps is allow the admin to configure whitespace trimming. If configured, I only remove whitespace from the beginning of the line to the first non-whitespace character. This reduces the code size somewhat,

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread John W. Holmes
From: Chris Boget [EMAIL PROTECTED] function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you could probably reduce the above to a single line function:

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Arthur Radulescu
You are correct, but I believe the bandwidth savings is small. What I usually do for my apps is allow the admin to configure whitespace trimming. If configured, I only remove whitespace from the beginning of the line to the first non-whitespace character. This reduces the code size

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:49 pm, Richard Davey wrote: The browser doesn't give a monkeys about whitespace et all. Having said that, stripping it vs. leaving it is virtually irrelevant too and I'm shocked why so many skilled people on this list actually care-less about it :) There is no

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:38 pm, John W. Holmes wrote: Certainly don't need to fire up the regex engine. return str_replace(array(\r,\n,\t),'',$html); Sweet, didn't know you pass it an array. Thx! -- Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Greg Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thursday 15 April 2004 12:57 pm, Curt Zirzow wrote: ok, then: s/[\r\n\t]//m; either way, you're blindly removing white space, which *does* matter in certain cases. What case would that be? The function I posted is completely safe. I've

Re: [Re: [PHP] PHP editor]

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Arthur Radulescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): PHP is one thing and HTML is another thing.. Check the google source code and you'll that this is how they have it... I assume the reason is to reduce the size of the page... I very much doubt that, if they were so concerned about WS then they

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote John W. Holmes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): From: Chris Boget [EMAIL PROTECTED] function cleanFinalOutput($html){ $return = eregi_replace(\n, , $html); $return = eregi_replace(\r, , $return); return eregi_replace(\t, , $return); } Not to be too pedantic, but you

Re: [PHP] PHP editor

2004-04-15 Thread Greg Donald
Richard Davey wrote: Passing a potentially huge string through a replacement function for every single page doesn't really = efficient in my shop. YMMV. We use Turke MMCache so it's not every single page. Besides that CPUs are way cheaper than bandwidth. -- Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-03 Thread Nico Berg
Hi, I have found the solution to my problem, I share it http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/ Greetings and thanks, Nico -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jay Blanchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 2 oktober 2003 14:30 Aan: Nico Berg; PHP General Onderwerp: RE: [PHP

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-03 Thread Chris W. Parker
Nico Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, October 03, 2003 12:38 AM said: Hi, I have found the solution to my problem, I share it http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/ OOH! OOH! OOH! This should be added to the weekly PHP Newbie post!!! chris. -- PHP General Mailing List

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I am pretty new in PHP coding. So for starters i want to know what is a good php-editor? I like them freeware for windows. [/snip] EDIT for windows is great, it's free, it's already installed and it requires that you do no additional searching of manuals, archives, or the web to use.

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I have the Dutch translation of the php-bible and they write: Use the right tool, don't let anybody tell you you need notepad or tools like that, use a proper tool. Are they dumm? Is it better to use a tool like emacs, notepad, edit or someting like that? The advice Visual Slickedit but

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

2003-10-02 Thread Chris W. Parker
Nico Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:09 AM said: I am pretty new in PHP coding. So for starters i want to know what is a good php-editor? I like them freeware for windows. HTML-Kit www.chami.com c. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread pete M
I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor ! John Nichel wrote: I know we've discussed this numerous times, but I'll chime in again (mainly because I'm bored). By far, I have been totally satisfied with UltraEdit. Lightweight, just about any language you

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
I like accelerators I just didnt like the price. So I wrote my own, but I havent worked all the bugs out yet. From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: 24 Sep 2003 09:44:40

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
in the HTML or php. But again thats just me. From: Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cesar Cordovez [EMAIL PROTECTED], PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:04:45 -0400 Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Didier McGillis
lmao .. good one. From: pete M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:59:19 +0100 I write my code with pencil and paper and then scan it.. Dont need an editor ! John Nichel wrote: I know we've discussed this numerous

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
:12 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I bet you don't indent your code either. And all white characters are useless too, they only slow interpreter down. Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: if($pos_params!=false){$back_url=substr($HTTP_GET_VARS['origin'],0,$pos_para ms

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
you can create so-called assistants... You can create a loop that asks in a table how many rows and columns do you want in that table. Then you can have it create the table with all your favorite default table settings, but while it is generating it, you could have it prompt you for

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:52 AM said: I already answered that question two days ago. I didn't ask you to answer it twice so I don't what you're talking about. c, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
if you will.. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jim Lucas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Chris W. Parker' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'jeffrey pearson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Jim Lucas
Sorry, someone else responded to your email with the request. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: RE: RE: [PHP

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
I guess you could call them helper scripts libraries. Example would be: You can program a script to create a switch statement and then have it prompt you for the number of case statements to add in and if you want them to break; or not. Things like that. Short cuts if you will..

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread tjr
AEdiX - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl, java

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Ralph Guzman
It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Ha,ha. too funny. -Original Message- From: Jim Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:56 AM To: jeffrey pearson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
priced copy does. Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow you to do internal scripting. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Didier McGillis
into the production environment. But really unless you are dealing with hight traffic sites, your not going to see a difference. From: Marek Kilimajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:12:04

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Cummings
: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl, java, and many others through modules that are downloadable from their web site, DOESNT change code like

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Didier McGillis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): alot easier for me with the returns and tabs. What I do is I have a script that strips out any space, tabs, carriage returns and then moves the code into the production environment. But really unless you are dealing with In some cases,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 09:43, Curt Zirzow wrote: * Thus wrote Didier McGillis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): alot easier for me with the returns and tabs. What I do is I have a script that strips out any space, tabs, carriage returns and then moves the code into the production environment. But

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Robert Cummings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): *COUGH* *COUGH* EVERY REAL coder knows that you have to use the following brace style for your code to be accepted into the l33t hierarchy of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if( $pos_params != false ) { $back_url = substr( $HTTP_GET_VARS['origin'],

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi, Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: [snip horrible code] if($pos_params!=false) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so testing it like this is pretty much pointless. It makes more sense (and is much more readable IMHO) to do something like this: if

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Curt Zirzow wrote: cat | realprogrammer | in_a_rush if($p) { $bu = substr( $_GET['o'], 0, $p ); $bup = substr( $_GET['o'], ++$p ); } else { $bu = $_GET['o']; $bup = ''; } This is a real world example of how real programmer in a rush can introduce bugs. Original example did not modify $p

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Jon Haworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Good coder will understand this at a glimpse: [snip horrible code] if($pos_params!=false) um... you rewrote that, his code was: if( $pos_params != false ) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Jon Haworth wrote: if($pos_params!=false) Assuming it's a boolean, $pos_params is *already* true or false, so testing it like this is pretty much pointless. It makes more sense (and is much more readable IMHO) to do something like this: if ($pos_params) { // something } From the futher reading

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Kevin Bruce
FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing static sites. I use OSX for my writing platform and occasionally use BBedit as

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread andu
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Cesar Cordovez
THE best text/code editor in this planet is BBEdit. No questions about it. It is a pitty it only runs on Macs. I have used it to write text, code fortran, pascal, c, c++, html, css and php (among others). It is great, I love it. Kudos to Bare Bones! Great find/replace utility. Incredible

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Kevin Bruce
Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how it turns out. Yes, Dreamweaver does sucketh much, but it's great for hashing out the page (WYSIWYG style) then tweeking the code. I Hate (capital H) hand typing nested tables.* :P *high school memoryHwat the hell do I need typing

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Clint Tredway
The new Dreamweaver is much better than the previous version. I still have not found 'the ideal' editor for me and I use several tools. The one tool that looks like it could become my tool of choice could be eclipse. because you can build custom editors (plugins) for anything you need. Clint

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread John Nichel
I know we've discussed this numerous times, but I'll chime in again (mainly because I'm bored). By far, I have been totally satisfied with UltraEdit. Lightweight, just about any language you want to edit, user configurable syntax highlighting (for those into that), handles UNIX / DOS / Mac

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-24 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:04:45PM -0400, Kevin Bruce wrote: : : Thanks:) I'll give BBedit a go for a week and let you know how it turns out. : Yes, Dreamweaver does sucketh much, but it's great for hashing out the page : (WYSIWYG style) then tweeking the code. I Hate (capital H) hand typing :

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Gal
The Best is the GTK verstion of the classic VI editor (latest VI 6.2 - uses GTK 2 on Linux) and there is also a Windows version. It's the best and you don't have to pay for licenses. http://www.vim.org/index.php Notepad - is very poor. you can not controle tabs spaces, see white space and

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Evan Nemerson
In you php.ini, set error_append_string to ... you loser! On Monday 22 September 2003 07:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. Some of the most gifted people in the world are all three! Not that I'm claiming to be one, but yes I'm all three. :-D

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread jeffrey pearson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:00 am Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php- must-have-editors. grtz jan

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Lucas
scripting. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? I like to use Edit Plus. www.editplus.com It has the syntax highlighting for php, perl

RE: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Chris W. Parker
Jim Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:56 AM said: Plus, one added feature is, is that it will allow you to do internal scripting. What are you able to do with internal scripting? chris. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jason Wong
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 00:56, Jim Lucas wrote: I like NoteTab from www.notetab.com It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Does that mean php shouldn't have any error reporting whatsoever, because it encourages bad incompetent

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Does that mean php shouldn't have any error reporting whatsoever, because it encourages bad incompetent coders who rely on being mollycoddled? [/snip] Mollycoddled indeed! I remember when I

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Ryan A
It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. O holy genius coder, we bow to you, forgive uswhy did we take the straight and easy path instead of the rough and true path... -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Chris W. Parker
Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:10 AM said: O holy genius coder, we bow to you, forgive uswhy did we take the straight and easy path instead of the rough and true path... Because we are not ereet. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Chris W. Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Ryan A mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:10 AM said: O holy genius coder, we bow to you, forgive uswhy did we take the straight and easy path instead of the rough and true path... Because we are not

Re: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Lucas
additional settings that you would like to have in the new table. Jim Lucas - Original Message - From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jeffrey pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:06 AM Subject: RE: RE: [PHP] PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Lucas
23, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? On Wednesday 24 September 2003 00:56, Jim Lucas wrote: I like NoteTab from www.notetab.com It doesn't do syntax highlighting, but if you need that, then you need to learn to code better. Does that mean php shouldn't have

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Ruessel, Jan
well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php-must-have-editors. grtz jan -Original Message- From: Binay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 22. September 2003 10:58 To: [EMAIL

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Ryan A
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use dreamweaver mx or textpad with the syntax highlighting file you additionally have to download. i dunno if there are special php-must-have-editors. grtz jan

[PHP] RE : [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread BENARD Jean-philippe
for a professional use. Cordialement, Jean-Philippe BENARD Consultant STERIA Infogérance ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Message d'origine- De : Ruessel, Jan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : lundi 22 septembre 2003 11:00 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? well, i like to use

Re: [PHP] RE : [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Duncan Hill
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 11:35, BENARD Jean-philippe wrote: Not a php-must-have-editors but useful ones, for example, are phpEd and Zend Studio (text completion, functions library, ...). I found that Zend Studio is a good one because of internal CVS connexions, work on UNIX Windows systems,

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Becoming Digital
www.becomingdigital.com wishes | www.amazon.com/o/registry/EGDXEBBWTYUU - Original Message - From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2003 05:07 Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Hey Personally I dont think any 1 is good for all purposes...I use

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Jason Sheets
works for you. Edward Dudlik Becoming Digital www.becomingdigital.com wishes | www.amazon.com/o/registry/EGDXEBBWTYUU - Original Message - From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2003 05:07 Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use? Hey

RE: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Chris W. Parker
Binay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 22, 2003 1:58 AM said: Please suggest me a good PHP editor like ( Microsoft's Interdev for ASP) to write my php programs/scripts and get a visual feel. Doesn't fit in the visual feel category but I really like HTML-Kit available at

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Ray Hunter
PHP eclipse is also nice, you need eclipse from http://www.eclipse.org and then you install the PHP Eclipse module http://phpeclipse.sourceforge.net. Very easy to install, I am a big fan of Komodo, I also like Vim, Kate and Eclipse. I tried Zend Studio 1 and 2 but it didn't live up to

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread NukedWeb
Best PHP Editor on the market: called Notepad. Written by a tiny little software dev company called Microsoft. Very nicely written, compared to the rest of their software.

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 22:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best PHP Editor on the market: called Notepad. Written by a tiny little software dev company called Microsoft. Very nicely written, compared to the rest of their software. Nh, a slightly larger company named Microsoft Inc. created an

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread Dan Anderson
Best PHP Editor on the market: called Notepad. Written by a tiny little software dev company called Microsoft. Very nicely written, compared to the rest of their software. You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. I couldn't imagine writing code without context sensitive highlighting

Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?

2003-09-22 Thread NukedWeb
You must either be insane, a genius, or joking. Some of the most gifted people in the world are all three! Not that I'm claiming to be one, but yes I'm all three. :-D I couldn't imagine writing code without context sensitive highlighting -- there are so many bugs that would be overlooked. -

RE: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-11 Thread Chris Hubbard
I think the BEST php editor out there is Microsoft's Visual Studio. Here's some of the reasons I think Visual Studio is the BEST 1. None of that annoying syntax highlighting that you find in many other editors 2. Unlimited technical support (at only $245 per call) 3. At $1000 - $2500 per copy

RE: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-11 Thread Robert Cummings
*ROFL* Rob. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 12:54, Chris Hubbard wrote: I think the BEST php editor out there is Microsoft's Visual Studio. Here's some of the reasons I think Visual Studio is the BEST 1. None of that annoying syntax highlighting that you find in many other editors 2. Unlimited

Re: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-11 Thread andu
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:54:06 -0800 Chris Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the BEST php editor out there is Microsoft's Visual Studio. You should've posted this before I got all invested with Nedit, Linux and the like... Here's some of the reasons I think Visual Studio is the BEST 1.

Re: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-11 Thread Chris Sherwood
Thanks for starting my day out with a chuckle.. this is one of the better tongue in cheek items I have seen in a little bit Chris I think the BEST php editor out there is Microsoft's Visual Studio. Here's some of the reasons I think Visual Studio is the BEST 1. None of that annoying syntax

Re: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-11 Thread zerof
Dreamweaver MX 2004. - zerof -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-03 Thread John W. Holmes
STONE Steven wrote: What's the best php editor out there? Thanks in advance for nay replies! We've reached our quota on answering this question. Search the archives. -- ---John Holmes... Amazon Wishlist: www.amazon.com/o/registry/3BEXC84AB3A5E/ php|architect: The Magazine for PHP

Re: [PHP] php editor

2003-09-03 Thread MuToGeN
Hello STONE, I use Zend Studio SS What's the best php editor out there? SS Thanks in advance for nay replies! -- Best regards, MuToGeNmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] php editor?

2003-06-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
This list is not owned by Zend. One should still not be talking about cracking software (Zend or otherwise) on it, though... Zeev At 14:51 14/06/2003, Ryan A wrote: What can i say? if you aint living on the edge you're taking up too much space I reccomend you don't talk about cracking

RE: [PHP] php editor?

2003-06-18 Thread Wim Paulussen
A CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [PHP] php editor? This list is not owned by Zend. One should still not be talking about cracking software (Zend or otherwise) on it, though... Zeev At 14:51 14/06/2003, Ryan A wrote: What can i say? if you aint living on the edge you're taking up too

Re: [PHP] php editor?

2003-06-17 Thread Chris Sherwood
PHPCoder Pro is a very nice development enviroment as well - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Fw: [PHP] php editor? Try to these PHP development environment: * Nusphere Studio * Zend Studio * Maguma

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